Is the black church guilty of spiritual hypocrisy in same-sex marriage debate? And this is NOT a 'race bait' issue.

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    May 13, 2012 2:37 PM GMT
    “It’s so unfortunate,” says James Cone, one the nation’s most influential black theologians and author of “The Cross and the Lynching Tree.”

    “The literal approach to scripture was used to enslave black people,” he says. “I’ve said many times in black churches that the black church is on the wrong side of history on this. It’s so sad because they were on the right side of history in their own struggle.”

    Call it historical irony: Black church leaders arguing against same-sex marriage are making some of the same arguments that supporters of slavery made in the 18th and 19th centuries, some historians say. Both groups adopted a literal reading of the Bible to justify withholding basic rights from a particular group.


    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/12/is-the-black-church-guilty-of-spiritual-hypocrisy-in-same-sex-marriage-debate/?hpt=hp_t2

    AWESOME read!
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    May 13, 2012 8:02 PM GMT
    mayBbignow saidThere are many black churches that have and except many gay members. The reality is that many are still going to vote no on gay marriage.
    So Im not sure.....
    Actually IF you were read the article it spells that out quite clearly!icon_wink.gif
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    May 13, 2012 10:26 PM GMT
    This very irony is played out to the extreme in Africa unfortunately.
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    May 14, 2012 8:53 AM GMT
    Yes many black people are very hypocritical when it comes to gay rights issues. It has a lot to do with cultural upbringings and strong ties to the church. But do we need to go starting topics about this on a gay forum where every black guy on this site would be opposed to the views of their straight counterparts? I think not.

    Go post this on a Black Christian chuch forum.
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    May 14, 2012 9:31 AM GMT
    I approve of this thread. I think perpetual butthurts DoomsdayAlblacka and AnotherJeremy will chime in with their usual TL;DR and a flame war will ensue when overtly-racist conservativejock joins the party.
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    May 14, 2012 12:52 PM GMT
    TheBizMan saidYes many black people are very hypocritical when it comes to gay rights issues. It has a lot to do with cultural upbringings and strong ties to the church. But do we need to go starting topics about this on a gay forum where every black guy on this site would be opposed to the views of their straight counterparts? I think not.

    Go post this on a Black Christian chuch forum.
    A little racist dont ya think?

    The funny thing is IF you 'cared' to actually read instead of opening your trap, this specific article was written and posted on CNN.. yes, CNN is a 'mainstream' news outlet. Not a "black christian church forum"

    And for the 'black' members on this forum to "oppose the views of their straight counterparts" when it comes to gay rights or ANY human rights, is a DAMNED good start!

    I sense some seriously deep seated self resentment on your part.
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    May 14, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
    TropicalMark_GySgtUSMC said
    TheBizMan saidYes many black people are very hypocritical when it comes to gay rights issues. It has a lot to do with cultural upbringings and strong ties to the church. But do we need to go starting topics about this on a gay forum where every black guy on this site would be opposed to the views of their straight counterparts? I think not.

    Go post this on a Black Christian chuch forum.
    A little racist dont ya think?

    The funny thing is IF you 'cared' to actually read instead of opening your trap, this specific article was written and posted on CNN.. yes, CNN is a 'mainstream' news outlet. Not a "black christian church forum"

    And for the 'black' members on this forum to "oppose the views of their straight counterparts" when it comes to gay rights or ANY human rights, is a DAMNED good start!

    I sense some seriously deep seated self resentment on your part.


    No it's not racist and no I don't care to read this. I don't need to read this. I have plenty of black, christian, family members who spout the same hypocrisy you just posted about that I base my claim on.... do you? So I will open my trap and speak on this issue if I damn well please. You obviously didn't understand the point I was trying to make. Clearly it's a good start that the black members of this forum oppose the views of many straight blacks. But um HELLO this is a GAY forum afterall. CNN is a mainstream outlet that's fine and good...but why even post this article here? You say this isn't a race bait issue, so then wtf is your point? I don't know what you are trying to prove, but if you wanna be self righteous, go find another outlet (such as a black christian forum) where this article will possibly make a difference.

    And who the fuck are you to tell me I have deep seated self resentment? Listen cow tits, I own who I am. And I have absolutely no problems with being half black. I fully embrace that fact and love that I can be part of the culture. The only thing I resent is having to be raised christian and seeing first hand the hypocrisy and hatred that the church spews towards gays.
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    May 14, 2012 8:47 PM GMT
    TheBizMan said
    TropicalMark_GySgtUSMC said
    TheBizMan saidYes many black people are very hypocritical when it comes to gay rights issues. It has a lot to do with cultural upbringings and strong ties to the church. But do we need to go starting topics about this on a gay forum where every black guy on this site would be opposed to the views of their straight counterparts? I think not.

    Go post this on a Black Christian chuch forum.
    A little racist dont ya think?

    The funny thing is IF you 'cared' to actually read instead of opening your trap, this specific article was written and posted on CNN.. yes, CNN is a 'mainstream' news outlet. Not a "black christian church forum"

    And for the 'black' members on this forum to "oppose the views of their straight counterparts" when it comes to gay rights or ANY human rights, is a DAMNED good start!

    I sense some seriously deep seated self resentment on your part.


    No it's not racist and no I don't care to read this. I don't need to read this. I have plenty of black, christian, family members who spout the same hypocrisy you just posted about that I base my claim on.... do you? So I will open my trap and speak on this issue if I damn well please. You obviously didn't understand the point I was trying to make. Clearly it's a good start that the black members of this forum oppose the views of many straight blacks. But um HELLO this is a GAY forum afterall. CNN is a mainstream outlet that's fine and good...but why even post this article here? You say this isn't a race bait issue, so then wtf is your point? I don't know what you are trying to prove, but if you wanna be self righteous, go find another outlet (such as a black christian forum) where this article will possibly make a difference.

    And who the fuck are you to tell me I have deep seated self resentment? Listen cow tits, I own who I am. And I have absolutely no problems with being half black. I fully embrace that fact and love that I can be part of the culture. The only thing I resent is having to be raised christian and seeing first hand the hypocrisy and hatred that the church spews towards gays.
    I find it very odd that I can have a conversation about news that affects the black community on a gay forum with my gay black brethren in here and you are uncomfortable with news/discussion affecting the community of which you claim half with...

    sucks to be you.
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    May 14, 2012 8:53 PM GMT
    No I'm not uncomfortable, I just have absolutely no Idea what you are trying to do with posting this article here.

    Edit: And I don't "claim". I am.
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    May 14, 2012 8:55 PM GMT
    TheBizMan saidNo I'm not uncomfortable, I just have absolutely no Idea what you are trying to do with posting this article here.

    Edit: And I don't "claim". I am.
    Look at the HEADER for this 'forum'.. read what it says.icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 14, 2012 8:59 PM GMT
    TropicalMark_GySgtUSMC said
    TheBizMan saidNo I'm not uncomfortable, I just have absolutely no Idea what you are trying to do with posting this article here.

    Edit: And I don't "claim". I am.
    Look at the HEADER for this 'forum'.. read what it says.icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif


    And, so what? I just think this article is pretty obvious. You can do your part by posting it somewhere that will really hit home. Not here, where the majority of the members are not black, and the members of this forum that are black, already knew this.
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    May 14, 2012 9:06 PM GMT
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    TropicalMark_GySgtUSMC said
    TheBizMan saidNo I'm not uncomfortable, I just have absolutely no Idea what you are trying to do with posting this article here.

    Edit: And I don't "claim". I am.
    Look at the HEADER for this 'forum'.. read what it says.icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif


    And, so what? I just think this article is pretty obvious. You can do your part by posting it somewhere that will really hit home. Not here, where the majority of the members are not black, and the members of this forum that are black, already knew this.
    Why dont you go here http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2369715

    and slam the hell out of BlkMuscleGent................(Deleted my last comment to you.. so butthurt and all).
  • TheBizMan

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    May 14, 2012 9:12 PM GMT
    I was thinking about it. And what I would post, would be to the same affect of what I have posted here. So why don't ya link em on over here.

    Edit; and you posted a question. A question with a very obvious answer.
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    May 14, 2012 9:14 PM GMT
    Never mind.icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif Go play xbox.
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    May 14, 2012 9:17 PM GMT
    Really? wow..

    Don't forget to take your fiber pills Pops.