"You have chosen to be on the wrong side of history..."

  • creature

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    May 15, 2012 1:53 AM GMT
    An openly gay donor who supported Mitt Romney's presidency with the $2,500 maximum allowance has withdrawn his support. Bill White, a registered Independent who runs a New York-based consulting firm has switched over to support President Obama.

    Although he disagrees with Obama on fiscal issues, Obama's recent support of same-sex marriage and Romney's reiteration that marriage is only between a man and a woman led to his decision.

    "I feel like [Romney has] declared war on my marriage," White said. "And I could just sit back and not say anything. Or I could do something about it. And I've chosen to do something about it."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/14/mitt-romney-gay-marriage_n_1516200.html
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    May 15, 2012 2:03 AM GMT
    creature saidAn openly gay donor who supported Mitt Romney's presidency with the $2,500 maximum allowance has withdrawn his support. Bill White, a registered Independent who runs a New York-based consulting firm has switched over to support President Obama.

    Although he disagrees with Obama on fiscal issues, Obama's recent support of same-sex marriage and Romney's reiteration that marriage is only between a man and a woman led to his decision.

    "I feel like [Romney has] declared war on my marriage," White said. "And I could just sit back and not say anything. Or I could do something about it. And I've chosen to do something about it."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/14/mitt-romney-gay-marriage_n_1516200.html
    Just saw this on CNN and posted it in the other forum as well!
  • Webster666

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    May 15, 2012 2:07 AM GMT
    I grew up in a Republican family.
    I voted Republican until I saw them taking away MY rights.

    I find it hard to believe that there are ANY gay Republicans.

    Republicans are against women, poor people, gays, and on, and on.
    And, they only TALK about fiscal responsibility.
    They certainly don't practice it.
  • creature

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    May 15, 2012 2:14 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidAnd leaving these "rights" up to the states is a good idea? (a.k.a. Mr. Obama's cop out position).


    Even though I don't agree with that position, President Obama has said that would he repeal DOMA with his support of the Respect for Marriage Act. Although this bill is not as strong as one that makes same-sex marriage legal in the United States, at least it's getting somewhere. President Obama's support for the Respect for Marriage Act, among other initiatives he has done, certainly makes him a stronger supporter of gay rights than Romney.

    If a bill would pass through a Democratically-controlled House and Senate that does make same-sex marriage legal, I doubt Obama would veto it.

    And sorry TropicalMark, I didn't see your post icon_redface.gif
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    May 15, 2012 2:24 AM GMT
    Gay marriage, agree or disagree is inevitable...whether the county agrees or disagrees it will happen, thats just how civil rights work..at this point both sides are just using it to shore up their bases but i doubt either one of them knows its not a train whose coming
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    May 15, 2012 2:37 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidAnd leaving these "rights" up to the states is a good idea? (a.k.a. Mr. Obama's cop out position).


    Believing in marriage equality as a political position is fundamentally different than saying it's "between a man and a woman", regardless of one's position on federal versus state recognition. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 15, 2012 4:45 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    creature said
    southbeach1500 saidAnd leaving these "rights" up to the states is a good idea? (a.k.a. Mr. Obama's cop out position).


    Even though I don't agree with that position, President Obama has said that would he repeal DOMA with his support of the Respect for Marriage Act. Although this bill is not as strong as one that makes same-sex marriage legal in the United States, at least it's getting somewhere. President Obama's support for the Respect for Marriage Act, among other initiatives he has done, certainly makes him a stronger supporter of gay rights than Romney.

    If a bill would pass through a Democratically-controlled House and Senate that does make same-sex marriage legal, I doubt Obama would veto it.

    And sorry TropicalMark, I didn't see your post icon_redface.gif



    Yeah, but you put your finger on the problem - a Democrat-controlled House and Senate would not pass it, so Obama gets a free ride on this issue by knowing that his "support" will actually never require him to sign anything into law.


    Don't be naive. The Democrats could barely pass anything through the Senate with the majority they had, why? Because republicans have abused the filibuster more than any time in US History. They filibuster everything and anything that the President is attached too. But since you seem to always attack the President, and I have never seen you attack Governor Romney; do you support President Obama or Governor Romney?
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    May 15, 2012 4:47 AM GMT
    Suecer said
    southbeach1500 said
    creature said
    southbeach1500 saidAnd leaving these "rights" up to the states is a good idea? (a.k.a. Mr. Obama's cop out position).


    Even though I don't agree with that position, President Obama has said that would he repeal DOMA with his support of the Respect for Marriage Act. Although this bill is not as strong as one that makes same-sex marriage legal in the United States, at least it's getting somewhere. President Obama's support for the Respect for Marriage Act, among other initiatives he has done, certainly makes him a stronger supporter of gay rights than Romney.

    If a bill would pass through a Democratically-controlled House and Senate that does make same-sex marriage legal, I doubt Obama would veto it.

    And sorry TropicalMark, I didn't see your post icon_redface.gif



    Yeah, but you put your finger on the problem - a Democrat-controlled House and Senate would not pass it, so Obama gets a free ride on this issue by knowing that his "support" will actually never require him to sign anything into law.


    Don't be naive. The Democrats could barely pass anything through the Senate with the majority they had, why? Because republicans have abused the filibuster more than any time in US History. They filibuster everything and anything that the President is attached too. But since you seem to always attack the President, and I have never seen you attack Governor Romney; do you support President Obama or Governor Romney?
    LMAO.. Southbeyotch hates that 'black man' in the whitehouse more than you know!
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    May 15, 2012 4:50 AM GMT
    Wow...THAT sure is going to change minds in the heartland of middle america. The gay guy's decided to support Obama (aka "The Gay President") --- SHOCKER! icon_eek.gif

    As for being on "The Wrong Side of History", I think this election (perhaps more than any election in our lifetime) is one in which the individual voters (gay & straight) will be deciding which "issues" weigh heaviest in their lives that they want to be on "The Right Side of History" of.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    May 15, 2012 5:00 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    southbeach1500 saidAnd leaving these "rights" up to the states is a good idea? (a.k.a. Mr. Obama's cop out position).


    Believing in marriage equality as a political position is fundamentally different than saying it's "between a man and a woman", regardless of one's position on federal versus state recognition. icon_rolleyes.gif



    Did Obama say it was a "political decision"? Because I'm pretty sure I heard him say it was a "personal decision", and that he continues to believe it should be up to the individual states --- basically passing the buck onto the states.
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    May 15, 2012 5:00 AM GMT
    "The gay community is being used as a political pawn," said Republican Rep. Don Coram, whose son is gay. Coram voted against the measure.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    May 15, 2012 5:03 AM GMT
    Webster666 said

    Republicans are against women, poor people, gays, and on, and on.



    Ohhh, Web, you forgot babies and puppies. Republicans hate babies and puppies --- HATE em! icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 15, 2012 7:19 AM GMT
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    May 15, 2012 11:18 AM GMT
    tru_blu_auzzie saidCNN: Communist News Network!icon_razz.gificon_lol.gif


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  • rnch

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    May 15, 2012 1:08 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidI grew up in a Republican family.
    I voted Republican until I saw them taking away MY rights.

    I find it hard to believe that there are ANY gay Republicans.

    Republicans are against women, poor people, gays, and on, and on.
    And, they only TALK about fiscal responsibility.
    They certainly don't practice it.



    I left the Republican party during the Regan administration......or did the GOP leave ME?


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  • GQjock

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    May 15, 2012 1:14 PM GMT
    There was a memo put out by a republican pollster who worked on the Bush campaign in 2004

    In the memo he states just that .... That the republican party IS on the wrong side of history and that they need to stop their opposition ... Like Now