Obama’s plan to ‘crucify’ political opponents

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    Obama’s plan to ‘crucify’ political opponents
    Targeting Romney donors is meant to scare away others

    When Ronald Reagan took on Democratic incumbent President Jimmy Carter in 1980, I volunteered to run an independent expenditure campaign for the National Conservative Political Action Committee. NCPAC itself was run by firebrand conservative activist Terry Dolan, and while both Terry and the organization he founded may be all but forgotten today, they played a pivotal role in the politics of the day.

    Independent expenditures (IE) were relatively new phenomena then; NCPAC had used them to defeat sitting liberal senators in the previous cycle, and Dolan was anxious to do what he could for Reagan. At about the same time, Roderick Hills, a former Ford administration official, set up a separate IE led by the Republican establishment who wanted, like NCPAC, to play an independent role in the fall campaign. It appeared to most observers at the outset that the Hills operation would dwarf our plans.

    That was not to be. Common Cause, led in those days by Fred Wertheimer, lodged a widely publicized Federal Election Commission complaint against Mr. Hills’ group contesting its independence under the law and threatening to go after those who contributed to it. The NCPAC effort wasn’t included in the charge or singled out for rhetorical attack even though many of us had enough close ties to Reagan campaign officials to justify the same allegations.

    I ran into Mr. Wertheimer and asked him why he hadn’t attacked us. The reason, he told me, was simple enough. Conservative contributors would be largely undeterred by such allegations. Conservative true believers probably would just give us more money to continue doing what we were planning. Mr. Hills’ supporters, on the other hand, were businessmen and -women who would close their wallets to avoid the taint of controversy. The charges, Mr. Wertheimer admitted, were made to shut down the Hills operation by discouraging potential supporters who almost congenitally would shy away from anything controversial.

    It worked. The Hills effort collapsed as nervous potential donors headed for the tall grass.

    President Obama and his managers obviously are hoping the same thing will happen to the super PACs supporting his opponent this year and possibly to the Romney campaign itself. By calling out, investigating and doing their level best to demonize major Romney contributors, they clearly are hoping to make others pause before opening their checkbooks to the former Massachusetts governor.

    Unlike the moves of Mr. Wertheimer and his friends more than 30 years ago, their threats carry official weight. Former U.S. Solicitor General Ted Olson had it right when he told the Wall Street Journal recently that a threat deemed to be coming from a president of the United States or those who speak for him is very different from run-of-the-mill public criticism. Said Mr. Olson, “When you have the power of the presidency - the power of the IRS, the INS, the Justice Department, the DEA, the SEC - what you have effectively done is put these guys’ names up on ‘Wanted’ posters in government offices.”

    Before the Obama campaign decided to make examples of Frank VanderSloot and seven other major Romney supporters, few Americans had ever heard of the Idaho Falls businessman. But since then, a private investigator with Democratic ties has tried to get into his sealed divorce records, his children have been harassed, and he has lost customers. He hasn’t been deterred personally and says he may just increase his contribution to Mr. Obama’s challenger to show that he cannot be intimidated. What Mr. VanderSloot and most of those who have commented on his travails misses is that it is not about him.
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    May 16, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/15/obamas-plan-to-crucify-political-opponents/

    Obama’s plan to ‘crucify’ political opponents
    Targeting Romney donors is meant to scare away others

    When Ronald Reagan took on Democratic incumbent President Jimmy Carter in 1980, I volunteered to run an independent expenditure campaign for the National Conservative Political Action Committee. NCPAC itself was run by firebrand conservative activist Terry Dolan, and while both Terry and the organization he founded may be all but forgotten today, they played a pivotal role in the politics of the day.

    Independent expenditures (IE) were relatively new phenomena then; NCPAC had used them to defeat sitting liberal senators in the previous cycle, and Dolan was anxious to do what he could for Reagan. At about the same time, Roderick Hills, a former Ford administration official, set up a separate IE led by the Republican establishment who wanted, like NCPAC, to play an independent role in the fall campaign. It appeared to most observers at the outset that the Hills operation would dwarf our plans.

    That was not to be. Common Cause, led in those days by Fred Wertheimer, lodged a widely publicized Federal Election Commission complaint against Mr. Hills’ group contesting its independence under the law and threatening to go after those who contributed to it. The NCPAC effort wasn’t included in the charge or singled out for rhetorical attack even though many of us had enough close ties to Reagan campaign officials to justify the same allegations.

    I ran into Mr. Wertheimer and asked him why he hadn’t attacked us. The reason, he told me, was simple enough. Conservative contributors would be largely undeterred by such allegations. Conservative true believers probably would just give us more money to continue doing what we were planning. Mr. Hills’ supporters, on the other hand, were businessmen and -women who would close their wallets to avoid the taint of controversy. The charges, Mr. Wertheimer admitted, were made to shut down the Hills operation by discouraging potential supporters who almost congenitally would shy away from anything controversial.

    It worked. The Hills effort collapsed as nervous potential donors headed for the tall grass.

    President Obama and his managers obviously are hoping the same thing will happen to the super PACs supporting his opponent this year and possibly to the Romney campaign itself. By calling out, investigating and doing their level best to demonize major Romney contributors, they clearly are hoping to make others pause before opening their checkbooks to the former Massachusetts governor.

    Unlike the moves of Mr. Wertheimer and his friends more than 30 years ago, their threats carry official weight. Former U.S. Solicitor General Ted Olson had it right when he told the Wall Street Journal recently that a threat deemed to be coming from a president of the United States or those who speak for him is very different from run-of-the-mill public criticism. Said Mr. Olson, “When you have the power of the presidency - the power of the IRS, the INS, the Justice Department, the DEA, the SEC - what you have effectively done is put these guys’ names up on ‘Wanted’ posters in government offices.”

    Before the Obama campaign decided to make examples of Frank VanderSloot and seven other major Romney supporters, few Americans had ever heard of the Idaho Falls businessman. But since then, a private investigator with Democratic ties has tried to get into his sealed divorce records, his children have been harassed, and he has lost customers. He hasn’t been deterred personally and says he may just increase his contribution to Mr. Obama’s challenger to show that he cannot be intimidated. What Mr. VanderSloot and most of those who have commented on his travails misses is that it is not about him.
    You should study a man named Karl Rove.

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    May 17, 2012 3:47 AM GMT
    I don't know what's sadder. The amazing lack of empathy right-wingers have or their paranoid delusions of persecution.

    Rid - If Obama wanted to use the power of the government to "crucify" political opponents, Karl Rove would be in prison right now, and most right-wing super PACs would be denied IRS status, etc. In fact, the administration has probably not done so, despite rampant violations because you and your ilk would claim they were being persecuted. For breaking the law. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 17, 2012 8:26 AM GMT
    Christian73 said... If Obama wanted to use the power of the government to "crucify" political opponents, Karl Rove would be in prison right now
    If he tried to abuse power so blatantly, even most Democrats would be highly concerned and he would risk being impeached and removed from office quickly.
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    May 17, 2012 9:12 AM GMT
    riddler78 saidhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/15/obamas-plan-to-crucify-political-opponents/
    Obama’s plan to ‘crucify’ political opponents - Targeting Romney donors is meant to scare away others

    This is starting to get widely known and will backfire significantly. History will treat this administration with the contempt it deserves.

  • May 17, 2012 10:01 AM GMT
    riddler78 saidhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/15/obamas-plan-to-crucify-political-opponents/

    Obama’s plan to ‘crucify’ political opponents
    Targeting Romney donors is meant to scare away others

    When Ronald Reagan took on Democratic incumbent President Jimmy Carter in 1980, I volunteered to run an independent expenditure campaign for the National Conservative Political Action Committee. NCPAC itself was run by firebrand conservative activist Terry Dolan, and while both Terry and the organization he founded may be all but forgotten today, they played a pivotal role in the politics of the day.

    Independent expenditures (IE) were relatively new phenomena then; NCPAC had used them to defeat sitting liberal senators in the previous cycle, and Dolan was anxious to do what he could for Reagan. At about the same time, Roderick Hills, a former Ford administration official, set up a separate IE led by the Republican establishment who wanted, like NCPAC, to play an independent role in the fall campaign. It appeared to most observers at the outset that the Hills operation would dwarf our plans.

    That was not to be. Common Cause, led in those days by Fred Wertheimer, lodged a widely publicized Federal Election Commission complaint against Mr. Hills’ group contesting its independence under the law and threatening to go after those who contributed to it. The NCPAC effort wasn’t included in the charge or singled out for rhetorical attack even though many of us had enough close ties to Reagan campaign officials to justify the same allegations.

    I ran into Mr. Wertheimer and asked him why he hadn’t attacked us. The reason, he told me, was simple enough. Conservative contributors would be largely undeterred by such allegations. Conservative true believers probably would just give us more money to continue doing what we were planning. Mr. Hills’ supporters, on the other hand, were businessmen and -women who would close their wallets to avoid the taint of controversy. The charges, Mr. Wertheimer admitted, were made to shut down the Hills operation by discouraging potential supporters who almost congenitally would shy away from anything controversial.

    It worked. The Hills effort collapsed as nervous potential donors headed for the tall grass.

    President Obama and his managers obviously are hoping the same thing will happen to the super PACs supporting his opponent this year and possibly to the Romney campaign itself. By calling out, investigating and doing their level best to demonize major Romney contributors, they clearly are hoping to make others pause before opening their checkbooks to the former Massachusetts governor.

    Unlike the moves of Mr. Wertheimer and his friends more than 30 years ago, their threats carry official weight. Former U.S. Solicitor General Ted Olson had it right when he told the Wall Street Journal recently that a threat deemed to be coming from a president of the United States or those who speak for him is very different from run-of-the-mill public criticism. Said Mr. Olson, “When you have the power of the presidency - the power of the IRS, the INS, the Justice Department, the DEA, the SEC - what you have effectively done is put these guys’ names up on ‘Wanted’ posters in government offices.”

    Before the Obama campaign decided to make examples of Frank VanderSloot and seven other major Romney supporters, few Americans had ever heard of the Idaho Falls businessman. But since then, a private investigator with Democratic ties has tried to get into his sealed divorce records, his children have been harassed, and he has lost customers. He hasn’t been deterred personally and says he may just increase his contribution to Mr. Obama’s challenger to show that he cannot be intimidated. What Mr. VanderSloot and most of those who have commented on his travails misses is that it is not about him.





    WHat ever Obama can do to crucify Romney is OK with me.... I can't stand that piece of shit

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    May 17, 2012 10:21 AM GMT
    Here's a cross in case he needs one.
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    May 17, 2012 11:34 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    riddler78 saidhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/15/obamas-plan-to-crucify-political-opponents/
    Obama’s plan to ‘crucify’ political opponents - Targeting Romney donors is meant to scare away others

    This is starting to get widely known and will backfire significantly. History will treat this administration with the contempt it deserves.


    What's the Washington Times circulation? 5? icon_lol.gif
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    May 17, 2012 12:09 PM GMT
    Ummmm....... Rid

    You know that you're posting a tempest in a FOXPOT you know that don't you?

    This Vandersloot dude?
    Yeah he's a billionaire ..... But he's a billionaire who happens to be the financial officer in the Romney camp
    AND he said the EXACT SAME THING when he was exposed for putting up billboards stating that Homosexuality was wrong and that the PBS special on education and homosexuality shouldn't be aired

    When MSNBC brought THAT up in Feb of this year he said that his business was targeted ... And that it cost him money

    So nice try

    Been there done that
    Another FOX story ..... That's JUST THAT

    A FOX STORY
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    May 17, 2012 12:19 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    socalfitness said
    riddler78 saidhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/15/obamas-plan-to-crucify-political-opponents/
    Obama’s plan to ‘crucify’ political opponents - Targeting Romney donors is meant to scare away others

    This is starting to get widely known and will backfire significantly. History will treat this administration with the contempt it deserves.


    What's the Washington Times circulation? 5? icon_lol.gif

    Being reported widely and one of the businessmen being targeted has been interviewed on TV
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    May 17, 2012 12:27 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said
    socalfitness said
    riddler78 saidhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/15/obamas-plan-to-crucify-political-opponents/
    Obama’s plan to ‘crucify’ political opponents - Targeting Romney donors is meant to scare away others

    This is starting to get widely known and will backfire significantly. History will treat this administration with the contempt it deserves.


    What's the Washington Times circulation? 5? icon_lol.gif

    Being reported widely and one of the businessmen being targeted has been interviewed on TV


    Interviewed by whom? ...... icon_rolleyes.gif

    And does his name rhyme BlanderBloot?

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    May 17, 2012 12:52 PM GMT
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    riddler78 saidhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/15/obamas-plan-to-crucify-political-opponents/

    Obama’s plan to ‘crucify’ political opponents
    Targeting Romney donors is meant to scare away others

    When Ronald Reagan took on Democratic incumbent President Jimmy Carter in 1980, I volunteered to run an independent expenditure campaign for the National Conservative Political Action Committee. NCPAC itself was run by firebrand conservative activist Terry Dolan, and while both Terry and the organization he founded may be all but forgotten today, they played a pivotal role in the politics of the day.

    Independent expenditures (IE) were relatively new phenomena then; NCPAC had used them to defeat sitting liberal senators in the previous cycle, and Dolan was anxious to do what he could for Reagan. At about the same time, Roderick Hills, a former Ford administration official, set up a separate IE led by the Republican establishment who wanted, like NCPAC, to play an independent role in the fall campaign. It appeared to most observers at the outset that the Hills operation would dwarf our plans.

    That was not to be. Common Cause, led in those days by Fred Wertheimer, lodged a widely publicized Federal Election Commission complaint against Mr. Hills’ group contesting its independence under the law and threatening to go after those who contributed to it. The NCPAC effort wasn’t included in the charge or singled out for rhetorical attack even though many of us had enough close ties to Reagan campaign officials to justify the same allegations.

    I ran into Mr. Wertheimer and asked him why he hadn’t attacked us. The reason, he told me, was simple enough. Conservative contributors would be largely undeterred by such allegations. Conservative true believers probably would just give us more money to continue doing what we were planning. Mr. Hills’ supporters, on the other hand, were businessmen and -women who would close their wallets to avoid the taint of controversy. The charges, Mr. Wertheimer admitted, were made to shut down the Hills operation by discouraging potential supporters who almost congenitally would shy away from anything controversial.

    It worked. The Hills effort collapsed as nervous potential donors headed for the tall grass.

    President Obama and his managers obviously are hoping the same thing will happen to the super PACs supporting his opponent this year and possibly to the Romney campaign itself. By calling out, investigating and doing their level best to demonize major Romney contributors, they clearly are hoping to make others pause before opening their checkbooks to the former Massachusetts governor.

    Unlike the moves of Mr. Wertheimer and his friends more than 30 years ago, their threats carry official weight. Former U.S. Solicitor General Ted Olson had it right when he told the Wall Street Journal recently that a threat deemed to be coming from a president of the United States or those who speak for him is very different from run-of-the-mill public criticism. Said Mr. Olson, “When you have the power of the presidency - the power of the IRS, the INS, the Justice Department, the DEA, the SEC - what you have effectively done is put these guys’ names up on ‘Wanted’ posters in government offices.”

    Before the Obama campaign decided to make examples of Frank VanderSloot and seven other major Romney supporters, few Americans had ever heard of the Idaho Falls businessman. But since then, a private investigator with Democratic ties has tried to get into his sealed divorce records, his children have been harassed, and he has lost customers. He hasn’t been deterred personally and says he may just increase his contribution to Mr. Obama’s challenger to show that he cannot be intimidated. What Mr. VanderSloot and most of those who have commented on his travails misses is that it is not about him.





    WHat ever Obama can do to crucify Romney is OK with me.... I can't stand that piece of shit



    Lol. Good answer.

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    May 17, 2012 12:56 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said... If Obama wanted to use the power of the government to "crucify" political opponents, Karl Rove would be in prison right now
    If he tried to abuse power so blatantly, even most Democrats would be highly concerned and he would risk being impeached and removed from office quickly.



    The whole idea is ridiculous.... but based on repub history, he had better
    take the initiative and squash efforts to define him..... glad to see he's moving quickly to define the opposition. Good going!
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    May 17, 2012 12:59 PM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said... If Obama wanted to use the power of the government to "crucify" political opponents, Karl Rove would be in prison right now
    If he tried to abuse power so blatantly, even most Democrats would be highly concerned and he would risk being impeached and removed from office quickly.

    The whole idea is ridiculous.... but based on repub history, he had better
    take the initiative and squash efforts to define him..... glad to see he's moving quickly to define the opposition. Good going!
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    Sorry, but this makes no sense. What is a ridiculous idea, publicizing the Team Obama enemies list, sending investigators to look at contributors' divorce records?

    We'll see how ridiculous exposing him as another Richard Nixon will be.
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    May 17, 2012 1:36 PM GMT
    Oh .......

    These poor beseeched businessmen

    They are HOUNDED by the masses pitchforks knives and flaming torches

    FOX effort to stem the tide to stop the money behind the scenes
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    May 17, 2012 1:46 PM GMT
    Awwwwwwwwwww.. the playbook is in the oppositions hands and the authors are pissed..

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    May 17, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
    It's not even clear to me what is alleged to be happening. This is opinion piece, not factual reporting, and the support for the allegation that there is an official policy to crucify political opponents is not anywhere in the piece. I tried clicking on the links and got nowhere.

    Plus this is from the Washington Times, which is not and never has been (well, there may have been a few years when they got closer, but it has been a long time) a real newspaper.

    Fail. Why post this kind of shit? Plenty of real stuff to argue about.
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    May 17, 2012 6:06 PM GMT
    showme saidIt's not even clear to me what is alleged to be happening. This is opinion piece, not factual reporting, and the support for the allegation that there is an official policy to crucify political opponents is not anywhere in the piece. I tried clicking on the links and got nowhere.

    Plus this is from the Washington Times, which is not and never has been (well, there may have been a few years when they got closer, but it has been a long time) a real newspaper.

    Fail. Why post this kind of shit? Plenty of real stuff to argue about.


    Except that the Republicans are running an empty suit that has offshored more jobs than he ever created and has terrible social and economic policies, so they have to run on made up shit.