Broken Promises - new ad to saturate swing states - VIDEO

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    May 17, 2012 11:39 AM GMT
    Hopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

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    May 17, 2012 11:43 AM GMT
    Four lies in 61 seconds! That's probably a new land speed record for dishonesty.
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    May 17, 2012 12:12 PM GMT
    Damn, this is going to be an ugly campaign. I need me some popcorn.
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    May 17, 2012 12:20 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

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    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.
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    May 17, 2012 12:58 PM GMT
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    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

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    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    And after the last administration you still claim you supported Bush and are a "fiscal conservative"..... you have a history of falsehoods....

    LOL

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    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

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    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    And after the last administration you still claim you supported Bush and are a "fiscal conservative"..... you have a history of falsehoods....

    LOL

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    I don't believe I discussed that. The Tea Party was also against the spending of the Bush administration. So nice strawman, but it won't work. Also a deflection against the inconsistency of you being a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter.
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    May 17, 2012 1:03 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

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    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    If that's the case, stating you are in support of gay rights and an avid Republican/Conservative supporter is totally inconsistent.

    Furthermore, the tea party is the biggest piece of hypocritical BS in the current American politics (which is saying a lot considering the BS from all sides of the field)...All this BS about sticking to the constitution and smaller government...but then wanting to pass constitutional amendments that would make abortion illegal, pass laws that require invasive medical procedures before abortions, restrict birth control, add amendments that would limit gay marriage and civil unions...etc.
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    May 17, 2012 1:08 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

    icon_lol.gif

    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    And after the last administration you still claim you supported Bush and are a "fiscal conservative"..... you have a history of falsehoods....

    LOL

    icon_wink.gif

    I don't believe I discussed that. The Tea Party was also against the spending of the Bush administration. So nice strawman, but it won't work. Also a deflection against the inconsistency of you being a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter.


    Pull back in your claws, John, there isn't any reason for this line of discussion... you have your opinion and I have mine.
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    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

    icon_lol.gif

    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    If that's the case, stating you are in support of gay rights and an avid Republican/Conservative supporter is totally inconsistent.

    Furthermore, the tea party is the biggest piece of hypocritical BS in the current American politics (which is saying a lot considering the BS from all sides of the field)...All this BS about sticking to the constitution and smaller government...but then wanting to pass constitutional amendments that would make abortion illegal, pass laws that require invasive medical procedures before abortions, restrict birth control, add amendments that would limit gay marriage and civil unions...etc.

    Nope. One can support gay rights, be against some positions of social conservatives, and still be a fiscal conservative. Is that concept too difficult for you to grasp? Maybe you have more wisdom than all the members of Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud. Why not go to their sites and tell them how misguided they are.
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    May 17, 2012 1:23 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

    icon_lol.gif

    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    And after the last administration you still claim you supported Bush and are a "fiscal conservative"..... you have a history of falsehoods....

    LOL

    icon_wink.gif

    I don't believe I discussed that. The Tea Party was also against the spending of the Bush administration. So nice strawman, but it won't work. Also a deflection against the inconsistency of you being a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter.


    Pull back in your claws, John, there isn't any reason for this line of discussion... you have your opinion and I have mine.

    No claws at all. You opined that the video is all BS with no substantiation. I asked what was false about it and pointed out what I see is an inconsistency on your part, which you have never explained. Sorry if those comments came across as too invasive. Seems you prefer to hit and run.
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    May 17, 2012 1:33 PM GMT
    Rovian politics with Kochian money

    Much Much more to come

    SoCal ... You send your thank you note to Roberts Scalia Thomas et al yet?

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    May 17, 2012 1:37 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    nanidesukedo said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

    icon_lol.gif

    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    If that's the case, stating you are in support of gay rights and an avid Republican/Conservative supporter is totally inconsistent.

    Furthermore, the tea party is the biggest piece of hypocritical BS in the current American politics (which is saying a lot considering the BS from all sides of the field)...All this BS about sticking to the constitution and smaller government...but then wanting to pass constitutional amendments that would make abortion illegal, pass laws that require invasive medical procedures before abortions, restrict birth control, add amendments that would limit gay marriage and civil unions...etc.

    Nope. One can support gay rights, be against some positions of social conservatives, and still be a fiscal conservative. Is that concept too difficult for you to grasp? Maybe you have more wisdom than all the members of Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud. Why not go to their sites and tell them how misguided they are.


    Same way you can call yourself fiscally conservative and side with the Democrats...I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy. Sorry you don't like to have it pointed out and used against you.
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    May 17, 2012 1:38 PM GMT
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    nanidesukedo said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

    icon_lol.gif

    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    If that's the case, stating you are in support of gay rights and an avid Republican/Conservative supporter is totally inconsistent.

    Furthermore, the tea party is the biggest piece of hypocritical BS in the current American politics (which is saying a lot considering the BS from all sides of the field)...All this BS about sticking to the constitution and smaller government...but then wanting to pass constitutional amendments that would make abortion illegal, pass laws that require invasive medical procedures before abortions, restrict birth control, add amendments that would limit gay marriage and civil unions...etc.

    Nope. One can support gay rights, be against some positions of social conservatives, and still be a fiscal conservative. Is that concept too difficult for you to grasp? Maybe you have more wisdom than all the members of Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud. Why not go to their sites and tell them how misguided they are.
    What part about the FUCKING WAY these fiscal 'conservatives' are being 'fiscally conservative' do you like?

    Well John, I am definitely a fiscal conservative (how the fuck do you think I've done so well with so little on a military pension) but I loathe the way that what you call "fiscal conservatives' in today America are DOING it. Its dirty, Its bullshit, its UNETHICAL, its criminal.. and yeah, I am a fiscal conservative, and it IS compatible to support differing candidates NOT pushed by the RNC or GOP. And Actually some of Obama's policies HAVE worked fiscally and were/are salvaged ' fiscally conservative GOP' policies that have been abandoned JUST because this president is using them..
    I'm calling you out on your blatant bullshit. I hope your conscience eats you alive.icon_evil.gif
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    May 17, 2012 1:40 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

    icon_lol.gif

    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    And after the last administration you still claim you supported Bush and are a "fiscal conservative"..... you have a history of falsehoods....

    LOL

    icon_wink.gif

    I don't believe I discussed that. The Tea Party was also against the spending of the Bush administration. So nice strawman, but it won't work. Also a deflection against the inconsistency of you being a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter.


    Pull back in your claws, John, there isn't any reason for this line of discussion... you have your opinion and I have mine.

    No claws at all. You opined that the video is all BS with no substantiation. I asked what was false about it and pointed out what I see is an inconsistency on your part, which you have never explained. Sorry if those comments came across as too invasive. Seems you prefer to hit and run.
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    May 17, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
    Yes lets talk about 'broken promises' !!


    For approximately 10 years Rove's Party starting with Bush and Cheney promoted huge tax breaks for the very wealthy and corps., promising the American Public hundreds of thousands of jobs as the result of those cuts.

    WHERE ARE THE DAMN JOBS ?

    Not only did we not get those jobs, but the above 'turd blossom's' (Bush's name for Rove) only succeeded in putting our nation deeper in debt and exacerbating the recession they started.


    The Republican Party didn't learn a godam thing, they're still singing the same damn song saying that cutting taxes for their supposed job creators and it will create more jobs. They been in charge of the Congress, and blocking everything they can in the Senate but still no JOBS.

    AGAIN !!! WHERE ARE THE JOBS THEY'VE PROMISED ?

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    nanidesukedo said
    socalfitness said
    nanidesukedo said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

    icon_lol.gif

    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    If that's the case, stating you are in support of gay rights and an avid Republican/Conservative supporter is totally inconsistent.

    Furthermore, the tea party is the biggest piece of hypocritical BS in the current American politics (which is saying a lot considering the BS from all sides of the field)...All this BS about sticking to the constitution and smaller government...but then wanting to pass constitutional amendments that would make abortion illegal, pass laws that require invasive medical procedures before abortions, restrict birth control, add amendments that would limit gay marriage and civil unions...etc.

    Nope. One can support gay rights, be against some positions of social conservatives, and still be a fiscal conservative. Is that concept too difficult for you to grasp? Maybe you have more wisdom than all the members of Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud. Why not go to their sites and tell them how misguided they are.


    Same way you can call yourself fiscally conservative and side with the Democrats...I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy. Sorry you don't like to have it pointed out and used against you.

    Your argument is quite simplistic and I think you know it. There are many fiscally conservative, socially moderates who support the Republicans these days. I have also stated my support and past votes for some Democrats in my state, including a past governor, a Senator, and a past Congressman. I have few problems with moderate Democrats, but the blue dogs have been discarded by the progressive left of the party. I have also stated that the Democratic Party could have been a place I would have been comfortable, but not when they are led by the left wing. There is no inconsistency or hypocrisy about my position.

    My position is quite a bit different from someone who claims to be a fiscal conservative and also an avid Obama supporter.
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    May 17, 2012 3:45 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    nanidesukedo said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

    icon_lol.gif

    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    If that's the case, stating you are in support of gay rights and an avid Republican/Conservative supporter is totally inconsistent.

    Furthermore, the tea party is the biggest piece of hypocritical BS in the current American politics (which is saying a lot considering the BS from all sides of the field)...All this BS about sticking to the constitution and smaller government...but then wanting to pass constitutional amendments that would make abortion illegal, pass laws that require invasive medical procedures before abortions, restrict birth control, add amendments that would limit gay marriage and civil unions...etc.

    Nope. One can support gay rights, be against some positions of social conservatives, and still be a fiscal conservative. Is that concept too difficult for you to grasp? Maybe you have more wisdom than all the members of Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud. Why not go to their sites and tell them how misguided they are.


    I'm not so bent that I feel it important to tell people like the Log Cabin or the GOProud they are misguided, I have a few more important things to do in my life and hope that I'm a little more balanced than that.
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    May 17, 2012 3:49 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

    icon_lol.gif

    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    And after the last administration you still claim you supported Bush and are a "fiscal conservative"..... you have a history of falsehoods....

    LOL

    icon_wink.gif

    I don't believe I discussed that. The Tea Party was also against the spending of the Bush administration. So nice strawman, but it won't work. Also a deflection against the inconsistency of you being a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter.


    Pull back in your claws, John, there isn't any reason for this line of discussion... you have your opinion and I have mine.

    No claws at all. You opined that the video is all BS with no substantiation. I asked what was false about it and pointed out what I see is an inconsistency on your part, which you have never explained. Sorry if those comments came across as too invasive. Seems you prefer to hit and run.


    You point is to try and create yet another problem when there essentially isn't one. I gave my opinion as to the credibility of the video you presented. Thats my opinion, I don't feel any need to explain it to you or anybody else unless I decide to do so. End.
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    May 17, 2012 3:55 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

    icon_lol.gif

    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    And after the last administration you still claim you supported Bush and are a "fiscal conservative"..... you have a history of falsehoods....

    LOL

    icon_wink.gif

    I don't believe I discussed that. The Tea Party was also against the spending of the Bush administration. So nice strawman, but it won't work. Also a deflection against the inconsistency of you being a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter.


    Pull back in your claws, John, there isn't any reason for this line of discussion... you have your opinion and I have mine.

    No claws at all. You opined that the video is all BS with no substantiation. I asked what was false about it and pointed out what I see is an inconsistency on your part, which you have never explained. Sorry if those comments came across as too invasive. Seems you prefer to hit and run.


    You point is to try and create yet another problem when there essentially isn't one. I gave my opinion as to the credibility of the video you presented. Thats my opinion, I don't feel any need to explain it to you or anybody else unless I decide to do so. End.

    You have that right, no question. Just don't expect your opinion to be respected by those having different opinions if you aren't willing to go beyond blanket comments, that's all.
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    May 17, 2012 4:17 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

    icon_lol.gif

    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    And after the last administration you still claim you supported Bush and are a "fiscal conservative"..... you have a history of falsehoods....

    LOL

    icon_wink.gif

    I don't believe I discussed that. The Tea Party was also against the spending of the Bush administration. So nice strawman, but it won't work. Also a deflection against the inconsistency of you being a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter.


    Pull back in your claws, John, there isn't any reason for this line of discussion... you have your opinion and I have mine.

    No claws at all. You opined that the video is all BS with no substantiation. I asked what was false about it and pointed out what I see is an inconsistency on your part, which you have never explained. Sorry if those comments came across as too invasive. Seems you prefer to hit and run.


    You point is to try and create yet another problem when there essentially isn't one. I gave my opinion as to the credibility of the video you presented. Thats my opinion, I don't feel any need to explain it to you or anybody else unless I decide to do so. End.

    You have that right, no question. Just don't expect your opinion to be respected by those having different opinions if you aren't willing to go beyond blanket comments, that's all.


    I don't respect and have no reason to argue a point with no reasonable outcome.. but disagreement here. I view constant squabble as a waste of time and, quite frankly, not positive to my days activities. I enjoy political disagreements with my republican friends, most of whom I respect, because of their willingness to listen and comment on specifics of a political disagreement and discussion we may be having. I see nothing like that here these days, thus keeping the time I spend relatively limited.
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    May 17, 2012 4:37 PM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan said
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    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidHopefully Kansas won't be one of the states to air the bullshit.

    Thanks for the warning!

    icon_lol.gif

    What is false, and your stating you are a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter are totally inconsistent.


    And after the last administration you still claim you supported Bush and are a "fiscal conservative"..... you have a history of falsehoods....

    LOL

    icon_wink.gif

    I don't believe I discussed that. The Tea Party was also against the spending of the Bush administration. So nice strawman, but it won't work. Also a deflection against the inconsistency of you being a fiscal conservative and an avid Obama supporter.


    Pull back in your claws, John, there isn't any reason for this line of discussion... you have your opinion and I have mine.

    No claws at all. You opined that the video is all BS with no substantiation. I asked what was false about it and pointed out what I see is an inconsistency on your part, which you have never explained. Sorry if those comments came across as too invasive. Seems you prefer to hit and run.


    You point is to try and create yet another problem when there essentially isn't one. I gave my opinion as to the credibility of the video you presented. Thats my opinion, I don't feel any need to explain it to you or anybody else unless I decide to do so. End.

    You have that right, no question. Just don't expect your opinion to be respected by those having different opinions if you aren't willing to go beyond blanket comments, that's all.


    I don't respect and have no reason to argue a point with no reasonable outcome.. but disagreement here. I view constant squabble as a waste of time and, quite frankly, not positive to my days activities. I enjoy political disagreements with my republican friends, most of whom I respect, because of their willingness to listen and comment on specifics of a political disagreement and discussion we may be having. I see nothing like that here these days, thus keeping the time I spend relatively limited.

    Certainly understand. Your calling the video bullshit helped raise the level of discourse. icon_twisted.gif