Any photographers out there? Help needed.

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    May 17, 2012 11:48 PM GMT
    I have always been interested in photography and I now have the opportunity to buy my first dslr camera.
    I am already leaning towards the Canon T3i (600d) camera because of it's great HD video capabilities (which I will be doing on top of taking photos), the great reviews and the affordable price (considering everything it has).

    My question to you all is, does anybody own or have experience with Canon dslr cameras? Or experience with the T2i, T3i, 60d? Any pros? Cons? Best lens'? Best settings? ect?
    Pretty much any feedback is appreciated.

    Side note: I will be using the camera for:
    Filming some action sports (nothing extremely fast)
    Action shots
    Portraits
    Everyday use

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    May 17, 2012 11:50 PM GMT
    Go with the 60d and invest in lenses.
    I use the Nikon D7000, which is basically the Canon 60d equivalent.

    But, some of my favorite shots came from the camera on my smartphone. icon_lol.gif
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    May 18, 2012 1:21 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidGo with the 60d and invest in lenses.
    I use the Nikon D7000, which is basically the Canon 60d equivalent.

    But, some of my favorite shots came from the camera on my smartphone. icon_lol.gif


    The 60d was actually my first choice. But I have an opportunity to get a (new) T3i with lens for $599, opposed to $1199 for the 60d. And from what I have read, the differences don't seem to vary enough to justify spending the extra $600. Plus, I can spend that extra $600 on lens' icon_biggrin.gif

    That's awesome though! How long have you had your D7000? What type of shooting do you do? Any specific types of lens' you like to use for different situations?

    Haha, agreed. Smartphones are a pretty good alternative that's for sure icon_smile.gif
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    May 20, 2012 3:53 AM GMT
    Canon is expected to announce the T4i this month. But $599 for a T3i is really good. Since you're just starting out, I'd say go for it.

    Really, the camera body doesn't matter. Technology gets better and better every year. So get whatever camera you're willing to pay for now and use most of your money for lenses. Those can be used on your future cameras. And they have better resale value, in case you want to sell them for something better.

    For portraits, you want to get a wide angle lens like a 50mm lens. Canon makes two. The nifty-fifty (f/1.8 ), which sells for about $150. And the more expensive f/1.4 version, for around $400.

    For action shots, I guess it depends on close/far you are from your subjects. Might be best to get a telephoto zoom lens, so that you can capture shots both close and far. Price range and focal lengths vary here. Get whatever you're willing to pay. I've got my eyes on the EF 70-300mm.

    For everyday use, you should be alright with a wide angle lens from above. Or the lens that comes with the camera. But honestly, lugging around a DSLR all day everyday, gets old quick. I use a combination of my smartphone and a Canon S100 for everyday usage.
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    May 20, 2012 4:10 AM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor saidI Shot with a Canon 7D and love the piss outta that camera. It's taken some truly amazing shots.


    icon_eek.gif ! I am quite jealous lol. The little bit of research I have done on that camera seems nothing short of amazing. If I decide to pursue photography later on or just want a more superior camera, the 7D will definitely be my first choice of camera! Especially for the sports I plan of shooting.
    Did you have any favorite or preferred lens' that you used or recommend?
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    May 20, 2012 4:33 AM GMT
    xrichx saidCanon is expected to announce the T4i this month. But $599 for a T3i is really good. Since you're just starting out, I'd say go for it.

    Really, the camera body doesn't matter. Technology gets better and better every year. So get whatever camera you're willing to pay for now and use most of your money for lenses. Those can be used on your future cameras. And they have better resale value, in case you want to sell them for something better.

    For portraits, you want to get a wide angle lens like a 50mm lens. Canon makes two. The nifty-fifty (f/1.8 ), which sells for about $150. And the more expensive f/1.4 version, for around $400.

    For action shots, I guess it depends on close/far you are from your subjects. Might be best to get a telephoto zoom lens, so that you can capture shots both close and far. Price range and focal lengths vary here. Get whatever you're willing to pay. I've got my eyes on the EF 70-300mm.

    For everyday use, you should be alright with a wide angle lens from above. Or the lens that comes with the camera. But honestly, lugging around a DSLR all day everyday, gets old quick. I use a combination of my smartphone and a Canon S100 for everyday usage.


    Thank you very much for that detailed response.

    Yea, I didn't think I could really pass up the great deal on the T3i. But I was not aware about a T4i is due for a release. Though, for what I want to do with the camera right now, the T3i definitely fits and exceeds the bill.
    Also, that has been what a lot of people have been telling me. That lens' are just as or more important that the actual camera itself. So I will definitely invest in some good ones.

    I think I will be going with the f/1.8 for now. And because of the sport I will most likely be shooting/filming, I was looking at getting a Rokinon 8mm f.35 fisheye lens. Two of my friends are using it on their T2i's and they rave about them.
    Nice! I haven't done much research on the EF 70-300mm, but I will be sure to check it out if it seems to have caught your eye.

    Haha, I am not too worried about it. I lugged around an old Minolta srt202 for a while a few years back when I decided I just wanted to take random pictures of every and anything I could. Though at the time, I had no clue about cameras or lens' and was just shooting for the sake of shooting icon_lol.gif But now I actually have a purpose icon_smile.gif

    But thanks again for the feedback.


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    May 20, 2012 4:40 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidGo with the 60d and invest in lenses.
    I use the Nikon D7000, which is basically the Canon 60d equivalent.

    But, some of my favorite shots came from the camera on my smartphone. icon_lol.gif


    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm COUGH! COUGH! th_3D_emoticon_73.gif
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    May 29, 2012 4:44 AM GMT
    Woo! Bought a Canon T3i last night!
    Took it out today to play around with settings and such, and before I knew it, 2 hours later I took 270 pictures haha.
    But I love it so much right now.
    Thank you very much for the input guys!

    Plan on buying the canon 55mm 1.8 lens tomorrow. Also, has anybody used the EF 200mm f/2.8L II lens or the EF 70-200mm f/4L lens? I am looking for a good telephoto lens?

    xrichx:
    Which EF-70-300mm lens were you looking at? The Canon site has 3...
    1) EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM ($1,400)
    2) EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM ($650)
    3) EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM ($1,600)
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    May 29, 2012 4:53 AM GMT
    DPrime saidWoo! Bought a Canon T3i last night!
    Took it out today to play around with settings and such, and before I knew it, 2 hours later I took 270 pictures haha.
    But I love it so much right now.
    Thank you very much for the input guys!

    Plan on buying the canon 55mm 1.8 lens tomorrow. Also, has anybody used the EF 200mm f/2.8L II lens or the EF 70-200mm f/4L lens? I am looking for a good telephoto lens?

    xrichx:
    Which EF-70-300mm lens were you looking at? The Canon site has 3...
    1) EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM ($1,400)
    2) EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM ($650)
    3) EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM ($1,600)
    Go with the 70-200 f/2.8L.
    You won't regret it.
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    May 29, 2012 5:02 AM GMT
    I was looking at #2. The street price is around $450 on Amazon and B&H Photo. My photog friends have told me that L lenses are not worth the extra money. If you're curious, you can rent lenses first. Then decide if it's worth the money to buy. Also, I would suggest browsing Flickr to see if a particular lens has the reach and image quality that you're looking for. Example:
    http://www.flickr.com/groups/canon70300is/pool/
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    May 29, 2012 5:05 AM GMT
    and if/when you pick up a telephoto zoom, (or any long zoom lens) try and get one with a high-quality optical stabilizer. I have a Tamron zoom on my EOS 20d. The stabilizer on that thing is borderline psychic!
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    May 29, 2012 5:32 AM GMT
    xrichx saidI was looking at #2. The street price is around $450 on Amazon and B&H Photo. My photog friends have told me that L lenses are not worth the extra money.
    If you're shooting in low light (sunset, sunrise, etc), the L lens is invaluable. The lower f-stop allows you to use higher shutter speeds and lower higher ISO's when shooting in low light.

    However, the lower f-stop setting (2.8 ) has a very narrow depth of field, which means only a few inches will be in focus. You have to plan ahead and know what you're doing to make the most of it.
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    May 29, 2012 5:42 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidIf you're shooting in low light (sunset, sunrise, etc), the L lens is invaluable. The lower f-stop allows you to use higher shutter speeds and lower higher ISO's when shooting in low light.

    However, the lower f-stop setting (2.8 ) has a very narrow depth of field, which means only a few inches will be in focus. You have to plan ahead and know what you're doing to make the most of it.
    Yup. He mentioned action sports, so I assumed he didn't really need a bright lens, since most sports venues have decent lighting. If he's shooting outdoors and under low light conditions, then yeah the L lens makes more sense.
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    May 29, 2012 5:43 AM GMT
    Invest is lens, not camera body - at the rate of current technology advance bodies will be refreshed every 18 months (of course you don;t need to buy every gen).

    But a good lens can last you several decades. optical formulas had been perfected years ago.

    So just buy the body that suit your shooting style and technical requirements.

    Personally I found entry level SLR restrictive - due to the single dial only and a lot of options burried deep in the menu. But if you are just starting, any entry level will do.

    Also think the camera as a SYSTEM you will buy into. What kind of lens interests you (depend on what type of subject you shoot). and pick a maker you see growth potential.

    eg, most people for for Canon and Nikon, but I shoot mostly prime lens so I picked Pentax.
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    May 29, 2012 5:44 AM GMT
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    paulflexes saidIf you're shooting in low light (sunset, sunrise, etc), the L lens is invaluable. The lower f-stop allows you to use higher shutter speeds and lower higher ISO's when shooting in low light.

    However, the lower f-stop setting (2.8 ) has a very narrow depth of field, which means only a few inches will be in focus. You have to plan ahead and know what you're doing to make the most of it.
    Yup. He mentioned action sports, so I assumed he didn't really need a bright lens, since most sports venues have decent lighting. If he's shooting outdoors and under low light conditions, then yeah the L lens makes more sense.
    Most sports (not including pro) have mediocre lighting.

    He needs the L.
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    May 29, 2012 5:57 AM GMT
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    DPrime saidWoo! Bought a Canon T3i last night!
    Took it out today to play around with settings and such, and before I knew it, 2 hours later I took 270 pictures haha.
    But I love it so much right now.
    Thank you very much for the input guys!

    Plan on buying the canon 55mm 1.8 lens tomorrow. Also, has anybody used the EF 200mm f/2.8L II lens or the EF 70-200mm f/4L lens? I am looking for a good telephoto lens?

    xrichx:
    Which EF-70-300mm lens were you looking at? The Canon site has 3...
    1) EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM ($1,400)
    2) EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM ($650)
    3) EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM ($1,600)
    Go with the 70-200 f/2.8L.
    You won't regret it.


    Thanks! I will keep my eye out for this lens then.

    And to clarify, I will mostly be shooting skateboarding right now. Usually it is shot during the day. (I don't plan on doing night shots until i become much more acquainted with my camera and learn all about flashes, ect).

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    May 29, 2012 5:58 AM GMT
    xrichx saidI was looking at #2. The street price is around $450 on Amazon and B&H Photo. My photog friends have told me that L lenses are not worth the extra money. If you're curious, you can rent lenses first. Then decide if it's worth the money to buy. Also, I would suggest browsing Flickr to see if a particular lens has the reach and image quality that you're looking for. Example:
    http://www.flickr.com/groups/canon70300is/pool/


    Thanks for the tips. I actually did not know that you could rent lens'. I will definitely look into this. And thank you for the link.

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    May 29, 2012 6:00 AM GMT
    DPrime said
    paulflexes said
    DPrime saidWoo! Bought a Canon T3i last night!
    Took it out today to play around with settings and such, and before I knew it, 2 hours later I took 270 pictures haha.
    But I love it so much right now.
    Thank you very much for the input guys!

    Plan on buying the canon 55mm 1.8 lens tomorrow. Also, has anybody used the EF 200mm f/2.8L II lens or the EF 70-200mm f/4L lens? I am looking for a good telephoto lens?

    xrichx:
    Which EF-70-300mm lens were you looking at? The Canon site has 3...
    1) EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM ($1,400)
    2) EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM ($650)
    3) EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM ($1,600)
    Go with the 70-200 f/2.8L.
    You won't regret it.


    Thanks! I will keep my eye out for this lens then.

    And to clarify, I will mostly be shooting skateboarding right now. Usually it is shot during the day. (I don't plan on doing night shots until i become much more acquainted with my camera and learn all about flashes, ect).



    If you are shooting skateboarding - do yourself favour and forget about the long zoom, get an ultra wide rectilinear or fisheye.

    Actually, no, just make the ultrawide your priority, I can think of certain situations where a long telephoto maybe useful for shooting skating but to get up close and personal. get that wide lens.
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    May 29, 2012 6:11 AM GMT
    offshoreIf you are shooting skateboarding - do yourself favour and forget about the long zoom, get an ultra wide rectilinear or fisheye.

    Actually, no, just make the ultrawide your priority, I can think of certain situations where a long telephoto maybe useful for shooting skating but to get up close and personal. get that wide lens.


    Yea, I know fisheyes are the way to go when it comes to filming lines and sometimes photos. I actually am already planning on buying the Rokinon 8mm fisheye because that is what most filmers are using (if they have a Canon).
    But I actually want to take more artsy, interesting photos. fisheye gives an awesome affect in some pictures, but the use of fisheye is borderline "overkill" sometimes. So, just trying to do something a bit different icon_smile.gif
    Thanks though man.
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    May 29, 2012 6:14 AM GMT
    Be prepared to stand well away with the telephoto in your hand. And be prepared to follow your subject VERY VERY quickly.
    It's easy to loose your subject at 300mm.
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    May 29, 2012 6:25 AM GMT
    offshore saidBe prepared to stand well away with the telephoto in your hand.
    I mostly shoot aerial photography. That's not a problem. icon_lol.gif
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    May 29, 2012 6:28 AM GMT
    offshore saidAnd be prepared to follow your subject VERY VERY quickly.
    It's easy to loose your subject at 300mm.
    I don't have the external drive hooked up, or I'd show you some shots done at 300mm just to show off to one of my friends who lives in a high rise as I flew by. icon_lol.gif
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    May 29, 2012 6:39 AM GMT
    offshore saidBe prepared to stand well away with the telephoto in your hand. And be prepared to follow your subject VERY VERY quickly.
    It's easy to loose your subject at 300mm.


    Duly noted man.
    I tried out some panning techniques I was told about with some passing cars on the street today and was able to produce some decent shots. Granted, I was only about 30feet away though lol.
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    May 29, 2012 6:56 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    offshore saidBe prepared to stand well away with the telephoto in your hand.
    I mostly shoot aerial photography. That's not a problem. icon_lol.gif


    Noted icon_smile.gif It's like the Hubble Telescope is like 5000mm or something but it never looses it's target because those are light years away icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 29, 2012 7:55 AM GMT
    xrichx saidCanon is expected to announce the T4i this month. But $599 for a T3i is really good. Since you're just starting out, I'd say go for it.

    Really, the camera body doesn't matter. Technology gets better and better every year. So get whatever camera you're willing to pay for now and use most of your money for lenses. Those can be used on your future cameras. And they have better resale value, in case you want to sell them for something better.

    For portraits, you want to get a wide angle lens like a 50mm lens. Canon makes two. The nifty-fifty (f/1.8 ), which sells for about $150. And the more expensive f/1.4 version, for around $400.

    For action shots, I guess it depends on close/far you are from your subjects. Might be best to get a telephoto zoom lens, so that you can capture shots both close and far. Price range and focal lengths vary here. Get whatever you're willing to pay. I've got my eyes on the EF 70-300mm.

    For everyday use, you should be alright with a wide angle lens from above. Or the lens that comes with the camera. But honestly, lugging around a DSLR all day everyday, gets old quick. I use a combination of my smartphone and a Canon S100 for everyday usage.


    The T4i has been on the verge of being released for what seems like months now. I'm waiting. And the 18-135 EF lens sounds real appealing for all around use, which is architectural photography for the business and summer outdoor collector car shows and events, plus the usual travel landscape, sunset, etc.