Does the world hate Gay people or mostly just Gay men.

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    May 18, 2012 2:24 AM GMT
    If you see certain fraternities and music videos and such you see that girls who are lesbians tend to be almost encouraged.

    I know one song that goes "my girl got a girlfriend." and many more than like same sex action between girls. At my high school in Alabama girls kissed all the time and it was seen as hot.

    Even in porn, girl on girl is geared to the hetero men, rather than gay women, even though it is technically gay porn.icon_eek.gif

    Girls go gay all the time and no one bats an eye, so is it a Gay thing or is it just a Man insecurity/masculinity issue.


    Now I am sure some people dont like either, but overall women, particulary lipstick lesbians tend to be accepted than a gay man.

    The only time I ever seen women dissed or discrimanted are the butch lesbians.

    So do you think if the world was just Lipstick Lesbians and girl girls who like each other that they would struggle as hard to get gay people recognized and such to have freedoms such as marriage?

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    May 18, 2012 2:31 AM GMT
    I don't think it's too much different from gays.
    Lipstick lesbians are accepted, butch lesbians aren't. Masculine gays are accepted for the most part, flamers aren't.
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    May 18, 2012 2:32 AM GMT
    Im not so sure Masculine gay men are accepted, but rather people dont pick up on them being gay..so they dont feel weird around them, but im not sure.
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    May 18, 2012 11:58 AM GMT
    Who cares!!! B happy!
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    May 18, 2012 12:07 PM GMT
    Cfin saidI don't think it's too much different from gays.
    Lipstick lesbians are accepted, butch lesbians aren't. Masculine gays are accepted for the most part, flamers aren't.


    This.

    In my experience, I've had very little pushback about my sexuality... and I live in what is basically Alabama.

    Sexuality isn't really the rub for most people. It's either 1) gender transgression or 2) the perception that you're attacking their way of life in one way or another.
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    May 18, 2012 12:27 PM GMT
    I agree with you. I think the more normal one looks and behaves enables them to fit into society around more easily.

    If one is Flaming Camp the more uncomfortable with this are the people who have those tendancies themselves and tend to shun such people. The same in the situation with Butch Lesbians.

    People who are comfortable with themselves and there sexual tendancies don't give a hoot either way. But I think these type of people (real people if you like, or real str8s) are few and far between. (Birds of a feather flock together and all that).

    Guess it all goes back to the eternal instinct really, survival of the fittest.

    Anything out of the normal that we as people don't understand and that could be threatening, we tend to tread cautionsly and avoid until we know better.

    Gay men have come along way in the past 10/years in getting the message accross that we are not prowlers on young people. And that young people can feel comfortable around people that think differently to the norm.

    But I also feel if it were thought that Gay people could become the majority in society this would lead to a backward step. So maybe the real question here is should we be happy been the minority and not shout too loud, but just loud enough.?
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    May 18, 2012 12:35 PM GMT
    Larkin said
    Cfin saidI don't think it's too much different from gays.
    Lipstick lesbians are accepted, butch lesbians aren't. Masculine gays are accepted for the most part, flamers aren't.


    This.

    In my experience, I've had very little pushback about my sexuality... and I live in what is basically Alabama.

    Sexuality isn't really the rub for most people. It's either 1) gender transgression or 2) the perception that you're attacking their way of life in one way or another.


    Fair points Larkin and not as long winded as I. I totally agree with those points.
    (1 and 2)
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    May 18, 2012 12:54 PM GMT
    Larkin said
    Cfin saidI don't think it's too much different from gays.
    Lipstick lesbians are accepted, butch lesbians aren't. Masculine gays are accepted for the most part, flamers aren't.


    This.

    In my experience, I've had very little pushback about my sexuality... and I live in what is basically Alabama.

    Sexuality isn't really the rub for most people. It's either 1) gender transgression or 2) the perception that you're attacking their way of life in one way or another.


    I would tend to mostly agree with this. I once had a conversation about this with a group of gay friends over dinner. The opinion was mostly those who were flamers or "out there" socially. It was pointed out that I don't have issues as most woiuld think me straight. Why the difference? Perhaps some rednecks
    relate to "gym dudes", but somehow view a "flamer" or a guy who wears his sexuality on his sleeve as some kind of an attack on their way of life. Odd, but
    that might be the perception of ... some people.
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    May 18, 2012 12:59 PM GMT
    If you don't like the way your are treated in Alabama, get out of Alabama...
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    May 18, 2012 1:32 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidPerhaps some rednecks relate to "gym dudes", but somehow view a "flamer" or a guy who wears his sexuality on his sleeve as some kind of an attack on their way of life. Odd, but
    that might be the perception of ... some people.


    I didn't necessarily mean like that... though that could be part of it. I meant more the socio-political accoutrements of what it means to be Gay in the US.

    For instance, I really believe part of what has moderated my own very Southern and conservative family so much about gay issues in general is seeing that I'm gay... and that they knew me before as in all other ways just like them. I'm not attacking their culture, I'm not attacking their faith, I don't care to change them, I don't look down on them, I don't tell them who to vote for or where to worship or vilify the things they care about. I don't have to be Dan Savage in order to be gay.

    Before they knew me as gay, they didn't really have an example of what gay meant except as a kind of different person that deeply, deeply despised them.
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    May 18, 2012 3:10 PM GMT
    LOL girls kissing in music videos and porn aren't lesbians. They're girls who will do anything to turn guys on and get some positive attention.
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    May 18, 2012 5:56 PM GMT
    SkinnyBitch saidLOL girls kissing in music videos and porn aren't lesbians. They're girls who will do anything to turn guys on and get some positive attention.


    Attention Lesbians.

    My sister's best friend used to do the Lesbian schtick to get attention from guys. She'd go on and on and on about her GIRLfriend who was a GIRL and how awesome it was that she was a LESBIAN with her GIRLfriend, because the made out (but they're both GIRLS!?!).

    Then she found a boyfriend.