What makes you/us human? Loose everything and then what?


  • May 18, 2012 5:24 AM GMT
    So many people base themselves on image and accomplishments. What would happen to you as an individual if your physical physique were taken away? What if it was your hair, age, health, or/and job? What does that leave you as a human? We work hard to give ourselves purpose and definition in the world. Who would you be without that? Does this make us all superficial and simply built on false idealisms… What are you’re thoughts?
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    May 18, 2012 5:37 AM GMT
    Interesting observation
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    May 18, 2012 5:40 AM GMT
    TO CHOOSE.... like to choose to be good or choose to be mean/evil/bigot/...

  • May 18, 2012 5:47 AM GMT
    I simply post this to make people think. Most are scared of this question cause it makes them truly evaluate what is meaningful and what is not. The biggest thing people are scared of are themselves. When you tear down an individual and leave them strictly to who they truly are, they cant face it. Insecurity takes hold and destroys them. Those that truly know what drives them and know that one day it will come to an end but yet they can still thrive put them beyond anyone else. But at what point in life do you discover this?
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    May 18, 2012 5:52 AM GMT
    if you get pushed around by a sociopathic boss long enuff, you'll transform into Catwoman.



    Michelle will always be THY best catwoman.

    amazing.
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    May 18, 2012 6:00 AM GMT
    This seems like too loaded of a question? What do you intend to take away from a person? If you take away my job then I will simply do what I am good at and if it happens to be the same thing that was taken away the first time then you havent taken away anything. I am still the same person I was who was good at the same job. If you took away my hair ( icon_confused.gif ) then I would be the same person minus the hair, the only way this could affect me, is if I wore a hairpiece (which I wouldnt). Age is no big deal either, I'd be an older version of myself icon_neutral.gif.

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    May 18, 2012 2:31 PM GMT
    hmmm, i think the thing that makes us most human, and which makes the least amt of sense, is hope. u can take everything away from me...except hope.
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    May 18, 2012 3:13 PM GMT


    p.s. please click the edit post link and change Loose to Lose for the sake of my sanity.
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    May 18, 2012 3:54 PM GMT
    fellfromheaven saidSo many people base themselves on image and accomplishments. What would happen to you as an individual if your physical physique were taken away? What if it was your hair, age, health, or/and job? What does that leave you as a human? We work hard to give ourselves purpose and definition in the world. Who would you be without that? Does this make us all superficial and simply built on false idealisms… What are you’re thoughts?


    Once I tried to express what I feel about these universal questions in writing.

    I tried to skin people's personalities layer by layer. Numbers are meaningless when it comes to understanding the truth, but I concluded that we have seven layers.

    Our appearance, and our organizational behavior are just the first layer of what we are. People usually use this layer to hide their inner self. It is thicker for politicians and other people who live and act based on tradition and it is thinner for the true artists.

    Our physical conditions, jobs, the age that we are born in and most of what is known as day-to-day life becomes meaningless when you take away this layer.

    But you can still go deeper and deeper in people's personalities; and you will see they become more and more similar.
  • DnvrBuilt4u

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    Oct 21, 2012 4:59 AM GMT
    These things make us human:

    No one wants to be alone.
    Everyone wants to love and be loved in return.
    Everyone needs to know his/her life has meaning.

    Humankind's greatest despair is the loss of meaning; the loss of connectedness; the loss of the Beloved.

    The truth is, there is no loss, no separation, no disconnecting because what IS is unbreakable, unbroken Presence - and WE ARE IT!

    There is no agenda! BE what IS happening!

    Live your happiness passionately.

    Ray
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    Oct 21, 2012 9:39 PM GMT
    Laughter makes us human. Humility is humor. Humbleness is only achieved through humility. Only then can we see the truth of who we really are.


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    Oct 21, 2012 9:44 PM GMT
    Man is the only animal who dreams of forever being better than he is -- of transcending his own natural state.

    That's why we're cursed.
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    Oct 21, 2012 9:49 PM GMT
    fellfromheaven saidSo many people base themselves on image and accomplishments. What would happen to you as an individual if your physical physique were taken away? What if it was your hair, age, health, or/and job? What does that leave you as a human? We work hard to give ourselves purpose and definition in the world. Who would you be without that? Does this make us all superficial and simply built on false idealisms… What are you’re thoughts?




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    Oct 21, 2012 10:11 PM GMT
    fellfromheaven, to some degree, this "existential" question was explored by Victor Frankl in his book Man's Search for Meaning about his time in concentration camps. Imagine being in a place you are inhumanly reduced to a number seared into your flesh with not much purpose in life than to survive. The very scenario you describe was actually forced upon millions of souls. I think you will find this a good read.

    Along those lines, I believe Elusium touches upon it. I'd add, not only our desire to transcend ourselves, but our search for meaning, purpose and survival. For when we have this "hope" that this is possible, human beings can do anything in the face of utter loss and despair. Animals too would seek to survive, but humans need meaning and purpose. It's not enough to just survive. This is one of the reasons why I believe the search to know and to be known by God is one of humanity's highest pursuits—for to know true meaning and purpose, we must know our Creator (touching the transcendent), the Source of who we truly are.
  • Medjai

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    Oct 21, 2012 10:15 PM GMT
    I don't identify who I am by my achievements, belongings, status, etc. I define myself by the qualities I value. In this way I can lose or gain anything and remain unchanged as a person.
  • Drift

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    Oct 21, 2012 10:17 PM GMT

    Counter question. What's so great and special about being human?

    I choose not to separate myself so much from other creatures, though of course we have differences. For me the most important thing is awareness. In some ways we are more able in this regard, and in others...debatable.
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    Oct 21, 2012 10:27 PM GMT
    seems to me that if more people lost these things in life, which are all fading in any event, they would be able to grasp a better understanding of their purpose here. too much focus is placed on the transient.....too little on being good souls and makng our time count. I will now move off the mountain top.

    keith