What happens when you loose everything you stand for?


  • May 18, 2012 5:29 AM GMT
    So many people base themselves on image and accomplishments. What would happen to you as an individual if your physical physique were taken away? What if it was your hair, age, health, or/and job? What does that leave you as a human? We work hard to give ourselves purpose and definition in the world. Who would you be without that? Does this make us all superficial and simply built on false idealisms… What are you’re thoughts?

  • May 18, 2012 5:48 AM GMT
    I simply post this to make people think. Most are scared of this question cause it makes them truly evaluate what is meaningful and what is not. The biggest thing people are scared of are themselves. When you tear down an individual and leave them strictly to who they truly are, they cant face it. Insecurity takes hold and destroys them. Those that truly know what drives them and know that one day it will come to an end but yet they can still thrive put them beyond anyone else. But at what point in life do you discover this?
  • TheBizMan

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    May 18, 2012 6:54 AM GMT
    If I lost my " physical physic, hair, age, health, or/and job"

    I think it leaves me as an old retired man
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    May 18, 2012 8:27 AM GMT
    You are right I am of that question but I do think about it sometimes. I wonder if my hair will fall out, my teeth and all that....I guess when or if that time comes I will have to learn to cope with it. I looked at my grandfather recently and saw how he aged and I really couldn't imagine myself looking like that. I think as we age we begin to accept that one day we will lose it all...
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    May 18, 2012 3:07 PM GMT
    You accept the changes and redefine yourself.

  • Medjai

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    May 18, 2012 3:11 PM GMT
    Defining yourself by what ou do, or by other external definitions is the biggest mistake people these days make.

    I'd be frustrated, but in the end I would not be a different person. As an individual, I define who I am by nothing more than myself. What I do and the like are superficial add ons.
  • HndsmKansan

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    May 18, 2012 3:12 PM GMT
    I'd still have my drive... and after a short period to gather myself, I'd start over again and work my butt off to improve my life.
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    May 18, 2012 3:13 PM GMT
    Medjai saidDefining yourself by what ou do, or by other external definitions is the biggest mistake people these days make.

    I'd be frustrated, but in the end I would not be a different person. As an individual, I define who I am by nothing more than myself. What I do and the like are superficial add ons.


    Easy to say...
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    May 18, 2012 3:16 PM GMT
    swimguychicago said
    Medjai saidDefining yourself by what ou do, or by other external definitions is the biggest mistake people these days make.

    I'd be frustrated, but in the end I would not be a different person. As an individual, I define who I am by nothing more than myself. What I do and the like are superficial add ons.


    Easy to say...


    Not really. Simple language shift. When people as you do describe yourself, most start with where they work, where they went to school, and the like. Instead, describe yourself. The characteristics of who you are and what you value. The rest is superficial and too much focus is put on it.
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    May 18, 2012 3:24 PM GMT
    I stopped trading on my looks a long time ago and now I'm surrounded by people who don't give a fuck what I look like or how many material possessions I have etc they just love me for who I am as a person

    I used to be a very superficial person and based my worth on how I looked but I realized in my early 20's that it left me on very shaky ground because there are plenty of people who don't find me attractive so I needed something more concrete.

    So instead I now trade on my personality and work on that instead of worrying about whether my hair looks great or if I have the latest designer clothes.

    We are programmed to find superficial qualities attractive from an early age since we live in a Capitalist world, so going against the grain is a hard road to walk and I still slip up every now and again but at least I have the awareness that my true worth is not based on any surface qualities.

    So if I lost all that shit I'd be ok with it because it's just window dressing, it can be replaced.
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    May 18, 2012 3:41 PM GMT


    P.S. Please please click the Edit Post button and change loose to lose for the sake of my sanity.
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    May 18, 2012 3:46 PM GMT
    Glad you asked. I did, about two years ago.. mind included.

    You start again, if you have any bit of you made to survive you'll come out of any situation a better person, and stronger if you have to do it by yourself. Stuff is replaceable, almost everything is replaceable... keep you feet on the ground and your goals in sight. Don't give up on yourself and believe in yourself; cause if you've lost everything, than apparently noone else believes enough in you either, though that is irrelevant. There is nowhere else but up to go.
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    May 18, 2012 3:48 PM GMT
    Been there, four years ago I lost my Job, house, truck and sense of self worth. You dig deep, dust yourself off, move forward and push harder.
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    May 18, 2012 5:26 PM GMT
    Medjai said
    swimguychicago said
    Medjai saidDefining yourself by what ou do, or by other external definitions is the biggest mistake people these days make.

    I'd be frustrated, but in the end I would not be a different person. As an individual, I define who I am by nothing more than myself. What I do and the like are superficial add ons.


    Easy to say...


    Not really. Simple language shift. When people as you do describe yourself, most start with where they work, where they went to school, and the like. Instead, describe yourself. The characteristics of who you are and what you value. The rest is superficial and too much focus is put on it.


    Youre very young. Its easy to say when you have limited life experience. Get back to us in 20 years when u have a career, longtime partner, 40+ years of hardwork and accomplishments- and u have a tragedy that causes you to become quadriplegic....you lose your ability to function physically, cant work, partner walks away, and you are dependent on a stranger for your every need.

    Ill remind u how easy it is losing everything because you are still the same person just need a simple language shift. Yeah thats all it takes. Lol
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    May 18, 2012 6:04 PM GMT
    In actuality, u wake up in the morning, look at yourself in the mirror, and think "who the fuck is that?"

    And it takes every ounce of strength u have left not to blow your brains out-and some people do.
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    May 18, 2012 6:09 PM GMT
    You become a realist! That is when it hits you that you must come first in everything you do! Get your piece of the pie and don't sacrafice for others unless their is something to your advantage. Jaded, no! Realistic, YES!!! If you don't make yourself happy first you can't make others happy.
  • mybud

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    May 18, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
    You're assuming that a person's physical form is somehow related to what a person stands for...Kind of a shallow belief...
  • LJay

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    May 18, 2012 10:20 PM GMT
    You learn to work hard and avoid mirrors.

    Ever just looked at pictures of the most important people ever? Not many knockouts there.
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    May 18, 2012 10:54 PM GMT
    Sure, this is a great mind fuck, but it's impossible to answer. In the end, we all grow old and die. We can't deny that. And while it's noble to keep that fact in mind to put our emotions into perspective, we shouldn't allow it to rob us of the present moment, and of the joy we should each take in our various virtues.

    That said, if I got fat and bald before my time, I wouldn't be able to get myself out of bed in the morning. j/kicon_lol.gif


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    May 19, 2012 12:34 AM GMT
    You can think about it all you want, but you may react differently when it actually happens and you're in it; especially if you lose something like your identity. Everyone deals with loss differently. The true test of character isn't how you are at your best, but how you are when at your worst.
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    May 19, 2012 12:44 AM GMT
    catfish5 saidYou accept the changes and redefine yourself.



    THIS!!!!
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    May 19, 2012 12:59 AM GMT
    I learned early on that nothing lasts forever. I invited 7 people to my birthday party one year in elementary school to my tiny-ass house. Out of all of them, I only talk to one of them and that is on occasion. I've moved on with my life, reinvented myself probably more times than anybody else that I know and that does build character. That has lead me to realize that I am nothing without my education. And there are many things that I can do with that, myself long after my looks are gone and I have gone through my upteenth personality/identity change.
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    May 19, 2012 1:15 AM GMT
    ayer2009 saidYou become a realist! That is when it hits you that you must come first in everything you do! Get your piece of the pie and don't sacrafice for others unless their is something to your advantage. Jaded, no! Realistic, YES!!! If you don't make yourself happy first you can't make others happy.

    An odd philosophy. I've already done everything I'm likely to do at my age. Not bad, not great, just what it is.

    Being already happy with who we are, and content if we die today (my partner actually said that to me today, which I echoed for myself, we both having been everywhere, done everything we could want to do), we are dedicated now to helping others, not ourselves.

    The abandonment of selfishness is very liberating. When you care about others most, more than about yourself, you seem to pass into a different plane of existence. Hard to explain, but it brings us such happiness & fulfillment that we wouldn't exchange it for anything else. The happiness of others defines our own happiness, and as our own lives draw to a close, that's all we want.
  • baldone

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    May 19, 2012 1:26 AM GMT
    Divorce 4 years ago, bankruptcy, foreclosure...loosing the house i was born and raised in...son that has many legal problems and has sponged off me for last 2 years..severe depression and weight gain of 70lbs...just now starting to pull my ass and my head together.....but looking at what i have lost sometimes wonder how the hell to move on to the next step.....especially at 61....can't just seem to get the motivation to start with tthe weight so i sit here and do nothing...but at least now recognize that i need to do something ....so thats a start
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    May 19, 2012 1:31 AM GMT
    baldone saidDivorce 4 years ago, bankruptcy, foreclosure...loosing the house i was born and raised in...son that has many legal problems and has sponged off me for last 2 years..severe depression and weight gain of 70lbs...just now starting to pull my ass and my head together.....but looking at what i have lost sometimes wonder how the hell to move on to the next step.....especially at 61....can't just seem to get the motivation to start with tthe weight so i sit here and do nothing...but at least now recognize that i need to do something ....so thats a start


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