Should Groups Like Asexuals And The Polyamorous Be Included Under The Queer Umbrella? Vote Now!

  • metta

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    May 18, 2012 6:31 PM GMT
    Should Groups Like Asexuals And The Polyamorous Be Included Under The Queer Umbrella? Vote Now!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/18/groups-under-queer-umbrella_n_1527983.html
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    May 18, 2012 6:39 PM GMT
    I guess I'm asexual.. I don't speak for them. But really it doesn't matter to me. I mean you can be gay and asexual, straight and polyamorous. It's more of a way a person decides to live rather than a sexuality.
  • metta

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    May 18, 2012 7:04 PM GMT
    asexual and celibacy are not the same.



    The definition of asexuality is "someone who does not experience sexual attraction."

    http://www.asexuality.org/home/general.html


    Asexuality
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality


    Asexuals, while lacking in sexual desire for any gender, may engage in purely emotional romantic relationships.[14][15] Terms concerning this are:

    aromantic: lack of romantic attraction towards anyone

    biromantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of two different genders – the romantic aspect of bisexuality

    heteroromantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of a different gender – the romantic aspect of heterosexuality

    homoromantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of the same gender – the romantic aspect of homosexuality

    panromantic (also omniromantic): romantic attraction towards person(s) of any gender or lack of gender, including persons of nonbinary gender – the romantic aspect of pansexuality

    transromantic: romantic attraction towards person(s) of variant or ambiguous gender – the romantic attraction to transgender or intersex individuals

    polyromantic: romantic attraction towards multiple, but not all, genders and gender identities – the romantic aspect of polysexuality

    grey-romantic (gray-romantic): Between aromantic and romantic, can be frequency or strength of the romantic attraction (the term does not express the gender of these persons)

    demiromantic: romantic attraction after developing an emotional connection beforehand (the term does not express the gender of these persons)
  • metta

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    May 18, 2012 7:09 PM GMT
    Polyamory

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyamory
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    May 18, 2012 7:14 PM GMT
    My mistake. I was taught asexual meant a creature that had all the parts needed to reproduce on its own. Then I heard gay guys saying they were asexual because they can't get a boyfriend. I didn't know there was a proper definition; thanks for the lesson.

    In that case, maybe Asexual shoudl go under LGBTTQIILMNOP, but not polyamorous. It seems like an option for any person. Gosh, things are getting so fragmented are they?
  • metta

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    May 18, 2012 7:19 PM GMT
    I agree with you. I think that adding Polyamorous could really hurt us and it does not really fit in with the rest of them. We would have to add Monogamy to it as well and celibacy if we added polyamorous.
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    May 18, 2012 9:08 PM GMT
    metta8 saidI agree with you. I think that adding Polyamorous could really hurt us and it does not really fit in with the rest of them. We would have to add Monogamy to it as well and celibacy if we added polyamorous.



    Bingo.





  • Timbales

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    May 18, 2012 9:44 PM GMT
    I don't identify as queer, so I don't care.
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    May 18, 2012 10:11 PM GMT
    I've an asexual female cousin who has been in an asexual relationship with her female partner for about 30 years. My asshole uncle once caused his typical shit in the family when he forced the friend out when my cousin was renting a unit he owned. But now they own a home and live together.

    Though they swear they are neither lesbians nor in a lesbian relationship, making it clear that is not how they identify, they are two females who are most certainly partnered. We would never consider inviting my cousin to a family event without inviting her partner. Unless their schedules are at odds, we've never even seen one without the other in all of their adult lives.

    I had them staying at my home about a year ago. They insisted on separate beds, I gave them separate rooms. Yet during the day they are inseparable.

    Certainly, should one ever lose the other, they would grieve every bit as much as any sexually active gay or str8 person who would feel the very same pain. They are completely loyal to each other. The validity of their relationship is beyond question. They've never mentioned it, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they are subject to the same homophobia as if they were a sexual couple.

    Are they inside the queer umbrella? I think so. They would probably say not. But I don't see the umbrella of denial fighting for their rights.