Los Angeles or San Francisco?

  • TallSoCal

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    Jul 23, 2008 12:06 PM GMT
    I live in the LA area, and I took a trip to San Fran this weekend (coming home today), and I've noticed how different LA and SF are. LA seems more cut-throat and competative while SF seems more lively and friendly. I really don't want to come back because I've gotten used to it over here. What're your your guys' views on these awesome cities? Which do you think is better?
  • dfrourke

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    Jul 23, 2008 3:50 PM GMT
    I believe they are as different as the days are long...you seem to already have a sense of it...

    I've always enjoyed visiting Los Angeles, the boys are much better looking, and the weather is beyond anything we have here, but San Francisco will always be my home. It seems much more community minded, urban, cultural, and it typifies the West Coast "laid back" mindset. I lived in NYC for several years and when it came time to move to the "left coast"...SF was my ONLY choice...

    Now if I could only afford to buy a damn house!

    Chime in fellas...

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    Jul 23, 2008 3:57 PM GMT
    dfrourke said San Francisco...seems much more community minded, urban, cultural, and it typifies the West Coast "laid back" mindset.
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    This is exactly why I love SF, and why I'm planning to move there in a year.

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    Jul 23, 2008 4:11 PM GMT
    Chicago
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    Jul 23, 2008 4:15 PM GMT
    I was born in LA raised in San Diego and have lived in SF for the 3.5 years. I DO MISS SoCal TERRIBLY however I needed to get away from SoCal. SF does have a stronger sense of community and is over all nicer/more pleasant in regards to people. However drivers up here SUCK ASS TOTALLY!! Other than that I am content to be here several more years then bail, just don't see this place as my "home"!
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    Jul 23, 2008 6:02 PM GMT
    Having been raised in San Joaqiun Valley... everywhere from Stockton to Bakersfield... I've spent lots of time in both SF and LA.

    LA is fun but it gets old very fast. It is too expensive, too pretentious, too much traffic, too much attitude, just too much period!

    SF is much more refined, slower paced, politically minded, and the gay community is much more diverse.
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    Jul 23, 2008 6:12 PM GMT
    Unlike a 1972guy, I've found people in LA to be nicer than those here in SF...and I've lived in the Bay Area my whole life! This is not to say that SF's population isn't pleasureable, just more eccentric.
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    Jul 23, 2008 6:12 PM GMT
    San Diego. :-) Even better weather, not nearly as much attitude or traffic.

    Still expensive as fuck though.

    And best of all, I'm here icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 23, 2008 6:33 PM GMT
    San Diego. Probably moving there towards the end of this year.

    Few times I've been, weather was great, nice area, very bikeable/walkable, haven't had a chance to interact with the locals..but there's nice people everywhere you go =)
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    Jul 23, 2008 6:55 PM GMT
    Agree with all the other poster's views. I've lived in at least a dozen different places in the states, and have been in SF for 6 years now, and I think I'm going to stay here for good, which, for me, says a lot.

    So I obviously love the city (even tho it drives me CRAZY every day for some reason).

    Instead of adding another positive SF comment tho, for variety, I'll mention something I've noticed about the people that DON'T end up liking it here after they stay a while. Those people are usually from one or two places only: NYC or LA. The reason they eventually return back to those two places is that SF is actually quite the small little town masquerading as a big, international city. There's only about 800,000 people in the city proper (San Jose has a bigger population). Often the former LA and NYC people decide that it's just a little small for them.

    That said tho - you definitely sound like you should try out living here. What's the worst case scenario? You decide you really don't like it, and you just move again. In the scheme of life, that's not all that big a deal!

    Good luck and hope to see you up here in the fog!
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    Jul 23, 2008 6:55 PM GMT
    SF or LA? There are great parts to both! And there are parts of both you wouldn't set foot....like any cities. I just spend time in the best parts of each place and I love them both - for different reasons. San Diego and Coronado too - there are tons of great places in CA but they are not without crowding, crime or traffic.
  • Surferhotty

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    Jul 23, 2008 6:56 PM GMT
    San Francisco for sure, dude.
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    Jul 23, 2008 7:06 PM GMT
    iguanaSF said

    Instead of adding another positive SF comment tho, for variety, I'll mention something I've noticed about the people that DON'T end up liking it here after they stay a while. Those people are usually from one or two places only: NYC or LA. The reason they eventually return back to those two places is that SF is actually quite the small little town masquerading as a big, international city. There's only about 800,000 people in the city proper (San Jose has a bigger population). Often the former LA and NYC people decide that it's just a little small for them.



    This is VERY true! Hence the need to get out of the city, even just over one of the bridges can be a GREAT thing!!!!
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    Jul 23, 2008 7:07 PM GMT
    wherever you decide to live it will ultimately be what you choose to make it. i'm an l.a. native, lived in nyc for 10 years and traveled to san francisco for work A LOT! i love both places (la and sf) and mostly for reasons already stated by others. however, it's so boring to hear people bag on l.a. for all the stereotypical reasons. tell me there aren't pretentious people, attitudes, expensive real estate, or bad traffic in almost every major city now. come on...
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    Jul 23, 2008 7:09 PM GMT
    metroPAULitan said however, it's so boring to hear people bag on l.a. for all the stereotypical reasons. tell me there aren't pretentious people, attitudes, expensive real estate, or bad traffic in almost every major city now. come on...



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  • sfnicolas

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    Jul 23, 2008 7:18 PM GMT
    i left LA in '91 and moved to SF--best decision of my life (so far!) icon_cool.gif
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    Jul 23, 2008 7:22 PM GMT
    ::shrugs:: dunno but I'm visiting LA Aug 15-17... And im nervous as hell!!!!!
  • sfnicolas

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    Sep 25, 2008 5:43 PM GMT
    I left LA in '91 to live in SF, never thought about going back.

    Defense rests, case closed, get on with your day.
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    Oct 03, 2008 4:00 AM GMT
    I never lived in L.A., but over twenty years in S.F.

    I prefer S.F. (and the Bay Area) because there isn't one overwhelming INDUSTRY, there seems to be more space for individuality, and being gay doesn't have to be a full-time job.
  • Hunter9

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    Oct 03, 2008 4:07 AM GMT
    CarlosGringo saidI never lived in L.A., but over twenty years in S.F.

    I prefer S.F. (and the Bay Area) because there isn't one overwhelming INDUSTRY, there seems to be more space for individuality, and being gay doesn't have to be a full-time job.


    yep, because everyone here in LA is an actor
  • TallGWMvballe...

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    Oct 03, 2008 6:16 AM GMT
    I was born and raised in Boston, lived in NYC for a short time, 1 year in a rock band in a farmhouse in New Hampshire, 1 year in San Francisco and a short time in Berkely.

    In 1969, I moved to Los Angeles where I have lived ever since.

    My work in the Media (Freelance Television DP/Cameraman)
    has taken me all over the country and out of it so I believe I have a good sense of both cities. My take is that they are VERY VERY different and I don't agree that the guys in LA are "pretentious, superficial and kinda not "Friendly"Cut Throat LA types !"
    That describes people in many cities


    "I never lived in L.A., but over twenty years in S.F.

    "I prefer S.F. (and the Bay Area) because there isn't one overwhelming INDUSTRY, there seems to be more space for individuality, and being gay doesn't have to be a full-time job."

    Come on! you can't be objective if you have Only lived in ONE place!"


    Conclusion; people that live most or only in SF seem to love to bash LA...
    but We in LA appreciate both in general.

    I love visiting SF but have no desire to sell my house and move there. icon_smile.gif

    There are good and bad in ALL cities and I tend to find and praise the best parts so for me, they both win... just depends on what works for you.
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    Oct 03, 2008 6:20 AM GMT
    LOS ANGELES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    i have been born and raised in L.A. and i love itttttt

    i do like San Francisco a lot tho, but nothing can beat L.A.
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    Oct 03, 2008 6:29 AM GMT
    I grew up in San Jose and have fond childhood memories of it. Of course that was the 60's and then visit from time to time afterwords. I would say that SF is more earthy, laid-back, and granola icon_lol.gif it is kind of dreamy and serene to me. I like more of the greenery there and north of there also.

    I like the weather in SoCal and LA is more glitzy (not that I really care) and beach-like. My ex moved to Silverlake a few months ago and it is suiting him really well. I go up there from time to time and so am just exploring the area. I like Silverlake and Santa Monica is kind of cool.

    I am not sure where I will end up. I am good with San Diego right now
  • metalxracr

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    Oct 03, 2008 9:19 AM GMT
    I really enjoy san francisco for its own unique style. I don't think I can compare LA to San Francisco, they're both great cities that are very different.

    I however, love Los Angeles. I feel more myself here than I have anywhere else. It seems very straight forward, honest, fast, and busy.

    New York is another place I love too, but it too is completely different from LA so I don't compare them at all. I just like the busy fast lifestyle it has too.
    That kind of environment resonates with me really well for some reason.
  • Aquanerd

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    Oct 03, 2008 11:53 AM GMT
    Visited both many time since childhood. Swim Meets, visiting family, college visits, vacations, business. SF is definitely my favorite.

    1. You can walk everywhere in San Fransisco, and you want to, every where you go you find interesting places that you'd miss if you drove from place to place.

    2. The people. In San Franciscan seem real. No one is trying to be something else, they just are great.

    3. Geography. Forest vs Desert.

    Never had a bad experience in LA, but every time I had to leave San Fransisco, I wasn't ready to. At the end of my visits to LA, I couldn't wait to get back home to Atlanta.