Why My Vegan Diet always Fails

  • parametric

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    May 19, 2012 10:47 PM GMT
    So I went into my kitchen to make dinner. I was like, "oh I have sweet potato and squash" So I started baking the squash and sweet potato to eat plain. But then I was like, " I can use some seasoning" and since I live 30 feet from a whole foods, I ran in, ostensibly to buy seasoning.

    My sweet potatoe squash Au Gratin with heavy cream, Parmesan, butter, and danish blue cheese is baking as we speak. DAMN YOU WHOLE FOODS!!!!!
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    May 20, 2012 1:44 AM GMT
    cheese substitutes are the fucking worst. i tried those once they're a travesty. mmm parmesan
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    May 20, 2012 1:45 AM GMT
    Makes perfect sense following an eating lifestyle that constantly frustrates you.
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    May 20, 2012 1:50 AM GMT
    I tried Vegan for a bit but .... Mmmmmm Feta. icon_smile.gif
  • calibro

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    May 20, 2012 3:55 AM GMT
    There's nothing wrong with being a vegetarian or an omnivore, but it's the sort of thing that shouldn't really happen if you fail. As a vegetarian, I don't "fail" and just happen to buy some bacon. It's not even a consideration when I walk into a store. If you truly want to be vegan, I think you have to get your mind there in order to keep your stomach in step.
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    May 20, 2012 4:57 AM GMT
    calibro said As a vegetarian, I don't "fail" and just happen to buy some bacon.


    You should consider failure as an option. A delicious, delicious option.
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    May 20, 2012 4:58 AM GMT
    been on my kick for about 3 months. . . i cheated a couple times but don't let it get you down!

    and the almond cheeses are fantastic
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    May 20, 2012 5:03 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Ariodante saidMakes perfect sense following an eating lifestyle that constantly frustrates you.


    ^ That wasn't a very nice.

    Does it not suffice that countless RJ members feel compelled to repetitively carry on with ridiculous bacon thread after bacon thread after bacon thread as their way of expressing their adulation for "thou"? Now you have to go so far as to make some sarcastic remark toward someone who's trying to depart from an industry that treats animals horribly their whole lives until they wind up on your dinner plate?



    If I may butt in, I can't complain myself, since said industry puts food on my plate at the moment.
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    May 20, 2012 5:04 AM GMT
    There's plenty of opportunity for "failure" given the broad range of "vegan" diets, ranging from hardcore raw foodies who subsist on lukewarm beans, root veggies and seaweed to those who feast on breaded fried ice cream. Of course it might take a decade or two for the "fail" to really show.
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    May 20, 2012 5:08 AM GMT
    eagermuscle said Of course it might take a decade or two for the "fail" to really show.


    My first hand experience has been vegetarians = rail skinny, vegans = skinny fat to morbidly obese.
  • metta

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    May 20, 2012 5:41 AM GMT
    ^
    sounds like you need to meet more vegetarians and vegans so that you can widen your viewpoint.
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    May 20, 2012 5:55 AM GMT
    Ariodante said
    eagermuscle said Of course it might take a decade or two for the "fail" to really show.


    My first hand experience has been vegetarians = rail skinny, vegans = skinny fat to morbidly obese.


    This. I've known some vegans who I swore only ate vegan chocolate.
  • metta

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    May 20, 2012 5:59 AM GMT
    ^
    If they are only going to eat chocolate...that diet will end pretty quickly. I have never heard of anyone being that extreme. The most extreme I have heard is raw foods or people that only eat fruit. I think adding raw foods can be healthy but only eating fruit is unrealistic.
  • metta

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    May 20, 2012 6:02 AM GMT



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    http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/
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    May 20, 2012 6:03 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said

    My meal had more than ninety grams of protein, 161g of complex carbs and twenty-eight grams of fiber.


    Hope you stocked up on the Charmin..icon_razz.gif
  • metta

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    May 20, 2012 6:04 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidVegan chocolate?

    Is it any good? icon_smile.gif



    https://www.google.com/search?q=vegan+chocolate&hl=en&biw=1680&bih=925&prmd=imvnse&source=lnms&tbm=shop&ei=IYm4T87rN8SniAKVyf2fBw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=6&sqi=2&ved=0CIQBEPwFKAU
  • metta

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    May 20, 2012 6:11 AM GMT
    I know that I have tried a few of them at the Natural Products Expo....some of them were pretty good but I don't remember which ones. They have so many chocolate companies at those things offering all kinds of organic and natural chocolate.

    I tend to like my chocolate in very small high quality doses.
  • calibro

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    May 20, 2012 2:20 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidVegan chocolate?

    Is it any good? icon_smile.gif


    vegan chocolate isn't really anything weird. many dark chocolates are vegan.
  • calibro

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    May 20, 2012 2:21 PM GMT
    Ariodante said
    calibro said As a vegetarian, I don't "fail" and just happen to buy some bacon.


    You should consider failure as an option. A delicious, delicious option.


    yes, but the more bacon i eat, the less there is for you.
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    May 20, 2012 6:19 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI just had a big bowl of wholewheat pasta, sun-dried tomatoes, a couple links of Tofurky and a half cup of marinara sauce.

    My meal had more than ninety grams of protein, 161g of complex carbs and twenty-eight grams of fiber.

    With a little creative thinking you can make some very tasty vegan meals.

    I don't miss meat at all.


    Speaking of creative thinking...vegan spaghetti & chopped hotdogs sounds like appealing comfort food but isn't eating fake meat as problematic as wearing fake fur, i.e. perpetuating the image of wearing fur/eating meat?
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    May 20, 2012 8:14 PM GMT
    Raw vegan or cooked vegan foods can serve as 'cleansing' cycle, or for cleansing if you eat non-vegan food ... The body is stimulated and invigorated from diversity of organic compounds in food, i.e. flavornoids, polyphenols, restravetrol (grape skin/stem/leaves and red wine). Vegan food with onion (best source of quercetin - an anti allergy compound, garlic, turmeric, ginger, eggplants are great muscle building and repairing. Aloe vera has been shown to stimulate DNA duplication and repair of damaged skin and internal tissues. Bottom line: meat, carb, and fat are great food source of protein/energy. Vegan food can provide energy (carbs), but much better as cleansing (herbs and spices). ... about 50 percent of drugs are plant extracts.

    In the hunter gathering period (which is by far the longest period of human existence, and arguably the most 'wealthy' society, where people only works 16 hours a week to sustain themselves), people eat in cycle: meat/hunting season, fruit season, root seasons, etc... The body was evolved to eat like this for hundreds of thousands of years... Meat was not always available.
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    May 20, 2012 8:35 PM GMT
    Ariodante said
    eagermuscle said Of course it might take a decade or two for the "fail" to really show.


    My first hand experience has been vegetarians = rail skinny, vegans = skinny fat to morbidly obese.


    I run into that as well cause they eat tons of processed crap ( pasta, bread, chips, fake meat ) rather eat living food.
  • parametric

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    May 21, 2012 12:14 AM GMT
    okay tonight's dinner was a success. Giant pile of kale with green peppers avocado and honey/flaxoil/chilipaste dressing with some sea salt. I also made oatmeal soy meatballs. They were delicious.

    I also made a weeks worth of packed lunches and dinners (i'm starting a class that will keep me out till 8pm) so I think my veganization is safe for a week.
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    May 21, 2012 12:18 AM GMT
    "Does it not suffice that countless RJ members feel compelled to repetitively carry on with ridiculous bacon thread after bacon thread after bacon thread as their way of expressing their adulation for "thou"? Now you have to go so far as to make some sarcastic remark toward someone who's trying to depart from an industry that treats animals horribly their whole lives until they wind up on your dinner plate?"

    Word.

    You = Awesome.
  • Perry123

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    May 21, 2012 1:33 AM GMT
    Fruits, veggies, whole grain cereals, temph, beans, millet, amaranth and other grains, soy, whole grain and spinach pasta, peanut butter, almonds, pumpkin and other seeds, flax seeds, soy and almond cheeses, almond and rice milk. 10 years going; no problem. Mindset!!!!! Vegan to the end.