Top Commander Reiterates Iran's Commitment to Full Annihilation of Israel

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    May 21, 2012 3:56 PM GMT
    http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9102112759
    Top Commander Reiterates Iran's Commitment to Full Annihilation of Israel

    TEHRAN (FNA)- Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces Major General Hassan Firouzabadi said threats and pressures cannot deter Iran from its revolutionary causes and ideals, and stressed that the Iranian nation will remain committed to the full annihilation of the Zionist regime of Israel to the end.

    Addressing a defense gathering here in Tehran on Sunday, General Firouzabadi said that nations should realize the threats and dangers posed by the Zionist regime of Israel.

    He reiterated the Iranian nation and Supreme Leader's emphasis on the necessity of support for the oppressed Palestinian nation and its causes, and noted, "The Iranian nation is standing for its cause that is the full annihilation of Israel."

    The top military official reminded that the Iranian Supreme Leader considers defending Palestine as a full religious duty and believes that any kind of governance and rule by anyone other than the Palestinians as an instance of usurpation.

    Earlier this year, Supreme Leader of Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei stressed in explicit remarks Iran's direct involvement in the Palestinian and Lebanese confrontation with Israel, including the Lebanese Summer 2006 33-day resistance against the Zionist regime.

    "Wherever Iran interferes, it announces it in a very straightforward manner. For instance, we interfered in confrontations against Israel, which resulted in the (Lebanese) victory in the 33-day war and (Palestinians' victory in) the 22-day (Gaza) war," Ayatollah Khamenei said, addressing millions of Friday Prayers worshippers on Tehran University Campus in February.

    "In future too, we will support and help everyone who opposes the Zionist regime," the Leader underscored.

    "The Zionist regime is a real cancerous tumor that should be cut and will be cut, God Willing," Ayatollah Khamenei underscored.

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    Also reported here:

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/20/iran-committed-to-full-annihilation-of-israel-says-top-iranian-military-commander/

    Related story:

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/22/thedcs-jamie-weinstein-more-proof-israel-cannot-tolerate-a-nuclear-iran/
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    May 22, 2012 2:34 PM GMT
    I guess this truth is not too convenient.
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    May 23, 2012 5:05 AM GMT
    What could they already say?

    Sure, in a week or a month the usual suspects (aka useful idiots) wi'll repeat that "it" (as if there was just one instance) was a "mis-translation" because an idiom was translated figuratively rather than literally. But how could that non-argument counter what is presented above? Or the previous evidence?

    Iran dreams of "a world without the US and Israel"

    A tempest in a teapot has been made of an alleged idiomatic "mistranslation" of comments made by Iranian President Ahmadinejad seeking to "wipe Israel off the map". True, that wasn't the idiom, but despite this red herring by Iranian apologists, there is a long history of Iranian leaders calling for Israel's destruction.

    Indeed, Iranian officials themselves were perplexed by the controversy. Foreign Minister Manuchehr Mottaki explained that there was no change in Iranian policy, that Ahmadinejad was quoting Khomeini:

    The late Imam, right after the 1979 revolution, announced that Iran did not acknowledge the Zionist regime (Israel)... The comments expressed by the president is the declared and specific policy of the Islamic Republic of Iran. We don't recognize the Zionist regime and don't consider it legitimate.


    Others attempt to minimize Ahmadinejad's comments by pointing out that he has limited power and is not the Supreme Leader. What's Khameini's record on Israel?

    Iran’s stance has always been clear on this ugly phenomenon (Israel). We have repeatedly said that this cancerous tumor of a state should be removed from the region.


    It is the mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to erase Israel from the map of the region.


    In addition to refering to Israel as an "illegal state" (with the obvious implication that it thus doesn't have a right to exist and should be done away with), then President Khatami said the peace process was doomad and that:

    All of Palestine must be liberated


    Not just empty rhetoric, Iran established the "International Anti-Zionist Movement" to undermine the Oslo peace process. It was headed by Mohsen Rezaie, the former chief of the Revolutionary Guard (who is close to Khameini). Rezaie said:

    We ask you, before the vast storm of Islamic countries, to mobilize to destroy Israel and create problems for those governments who defend it


    Ahmadinejad has also stated:

    we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism


    There is no doubt that the new wave (of attacks) in Palestine will wipe off this stigma (Israel) from the face of the Islamic world


    Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury, (while) any (Islamic leader) who recognizes the Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of the Islamic world


    He has also threatened Europe that it "may get hurt" if it supports Israel.

    Ahmadinejad also created controversy at the UN when he stated:

    the countdown to Israel's destruction had begun.


    See:

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/868850.html

    http://lautenberg.senate.gov/newsroom/record.cfm?id=254583

    http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/26/ahmadinejad

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/zionist-entity.htm

    http://english.aljazeera.net/English/Archive/Archive?ArchiveID=37967

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    May 24, 2012 11:26 AM GMT
    Iran's position is well known.
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    May 24, 2012 2:08 PM GMT
    Looks like I traded my gas-guxxling SUV for an electric/hybrid vehicle just in time.
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    May 24, 2012 3:00 PM GMT
    Hasn't Iran been saying this for 30-odd years?

    How is this different than last Thursday? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 24, 2012 3:05 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidHasn't Iran been saying this for 30-odd years?

    How is this different than last Thursday? icon_rolleyes.gif

    There are a few on RJ who continually deny this. I don't care about them but just in case others read and believe them, I thought I would show this clear intent of Iran.
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    May 25, 2012 12:58 AM GMT
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    Christian73 saidHasn't Iran been saying this for 30-odd years?

    How is this different than last Thursday? icon_rolleyes.gif

    There are a few on RJ who continually deny this. I don't care about them but just in case others read and believe them, I thought I would show this clear intent of Iran.

    It's curious that you, Christian, pipe up when people say what you concede is true but are silent when those few repeatedly lie about it.
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    May 25, 2012 1:59 AM GMT
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    Christian73 saidHasn't Iran been saying this for 30-odd years?

    How is this different than last Thursday? icon_rolleyes.gif

    There are a few on RJ who continually deny this. I don't care about them but just in case others read and believe them, I thought I would show this clear intent of Iran.

    It's curious that you, Christian, pipe up when people say what you concede is true but are silent when those few repeatedly lie about it.


    Frankly, Wolv, I rarely go into the Middle East threads because you and a few others on both sides create these endless posts that I can't be bothered to read.

    I don't think anyone honest doesn't think that Iran is utterly hostile to Israel. Where I diverge from you is in Israel's larger role in the region and, in particular, the treatment of the Palestinians.
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    May 25, 2012 12:50 PM GMT
    Why is this surprising to anyone?

    The Iranian government is truly terrible. They have murdered, tortured and thoroughly oppressed their citizens. They have no legitimacy! Their people have attempted to rid themselves of this government---and been brutally suppressed.

    What is the right thing to do about it, however, is quite another matter. And we in the west must think carefully about certain actions our states have taken that blur a little too much the line between the awful despotic government of iran and the virtuous democracy that empowers each of its citizens to which we aspire.
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    May 25, 2012 5:19 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidI rarely go into the Middle East threads because you and a few others on both sides create these endless posts that I can't be bothered to read.

    Well, yeah, I back up what I say with facts from reputable sources and they engage in endless shell games. But the good news is that pouncer and sxydrkhair claim to have me on "ignore" and pretty much everyone has RLD on "ignore" so intelligent discussion may be possible (as it once was).

    Christian73 saidI don't think anyone honest doesn't think that Iran is utterly hostile to Israel. Where I diverge from you is in Israel's larger role in the region and, in particular, the treatment of the Palestinians.

    So we agree that AyaTrollah pouncer, tokugawa, RLD, sxydrkhair and IanCT are not honest and just say things (lies) for-the-cause.

    Maybe then we also agree here?

    Revisiting the Clinton Compromise Parameters
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    Jun 20, 2012 6:39 PM GMT
    While Iran has feigned that it is opposed to nukes (complete with fatwas)...

    Islamic world must have nuclear weapons, says Iran

    http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-world-must-nuclear-weapons-says-iran-223403374.html

    Official Iranian media outlets published a commentary Sunday titled “The necessity for the Islamic world to have the atomic bomb,” laying the groundwork for Iran’s refusal to accept limits on its illicit nuclear program.

    The essay’s author, Alireza Forghani, is the former governor of southern Iran’s Kish Province and an analyst and a strategy specialist in the camp of the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

    “The fatwa from Imam Khomeini [the founder of Iran's Islamic revolution] said ‘all Islamic countries have Islamic blood,’” Forghani wrote. “Therefore the Islamic world should rise up and shout that a nuclear bomb is our right, and disrupt the dreams of America and Israel.”

    “Having a nuclear bomb is our right,” he argued. “Israel would have been destroyed completely 30 years ago” but has survived because it has nuclear weapons.

    In February, Forghani laid out the legal case for the annihilation of Israel and all Jewish people. That treatise, which ran in all the Iranian regime’s media outlets, openly called for a pre-emptive strike on Israel.

    Among the state-run media carrying Forghani’s new piece — which argues that Iran should have an atomic bomb – is the major outlet Fars News Agency, which is run by the Revolutionary Guards and thus represents the views of the Islamic regime.

    ...America is the main enemy of Iran, Forghani argued, and is the only country that has used the atomic bomb and brags about its nuclear arsenal, creating fear in nations that might want to challenge it.

    ...In a clear indication that Iran might either have a bomb or be close to developing it, Forghani wrote, “Imam Khamenei has stated that with whatever arms they attack us, we will respond similarly. The need for having the atomic bomb in order to respond to any aggression is now.”

    Officials in the Islamic regime, including its supreme leader and military commanders, have promised the “full annihilation of Israel” and the demise of America. “We’re still on a hillside,” Khamenei said in a recent speech. “When the Iranian nation reaches the peak, all enmities [and] evils will end.”
    In a separate blog article, Forghani quoted the Quran, An-Nisa 74: “Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of Allah — whether he is slain or gets victory — soon shall we give him a reward of great value.”
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    Jun 20, 2012 8:00 PM GMT
    Keep in mind that no fair minded self repecting person can with clear conscience support the dispicable acts of the Iranian Regime who has from time to time promoted atratious acts against some of its people and many decenters.

    Also to be fair minded and to speak with a clear conscience we must admit that the US started running interference way back in I believe 1953 when the CiA arranged a Coup to replace their democratically elected leader when the man made the mistake to privatize their oil Co's. Then our US plant made himself very rich at the expense of his people and in ver despotic ways, But don't hear any complaints from the Far right about our supporting those actions while we were getting our way with their oil. GET THE POINT ?

    Finally in 1979 the Iranian people had had enough and took some of their anger out on US Citizens. CAN WE BLAME THEM ? We became "the great satan" to them by our own actions. But the interference didn't even come close to stopping there and from then on Israels Mossad and our US CIA has enterfered a plenty, so their hate of the US and Israel's 'regimes' is to a great deal self inflicted by our leaders. REMEMBER THE CIA's WARNINGS ABOUT BLOWBACK TERRORISM FROM INTERVENTIONIST US/ISRAELI ACTIONS ?

    When considering this sabor rattling by this military general he is after all repeatedly talking against the Iraeli Zionist Leadership of Israel, many of Irans leaders have stated they have nothing against the Israeli people themselves. only the Zionist Regime.

    THERE ARE QUITE A FEW ARTICLES BY JEWISH WRITERS DEALING WITH ISRAELI ADMISSIONS THAT THE IRANIAN LEADER >>> DID NOT THREATEN TO "WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE MAP" >>>> LOOK THIS UP ON THE NET AND ON HAARETZ NEWS. Also on Anti War.com. under "RUMOR OF THE CENTURY 'IRAN THREATENS TO WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE MAP"

    Also Keep in mind that the Israeli Lobby AIPAC (LIL'AIPAC's Idol) has been sabor rattling against Iran and drying to drum up reasons to go to war with them just as they and their associates did with Iraq. Our US Media and politicians have done a good job on their own in following suit, of course we know it pays well from dual Citizens like Adelson and several others, but that is beside the point.

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    As to LIL'AIPAC's (W4) dart thrown about the Clinton Parameters, he is way off base and hypocritical in trying to promote that when in fact most of his writings here seem to go along with his professor father who wrote an article titled. "why do Palestinians need a second homeland". Then in the article he promotes the similar belief as Adelson payed Gingrich to promote that Palestinians homeland is in Jordan on the East side of the River Jordan. and should not be laying claim to a 'second homeland' on the West Side of the Jordan (the west Bank)

    The Clinton Parameters are completely at conflict with LIL'AIPAC and his fathers beliefs, so it is hypocritical to the extreme for him to talk out of both sides of his mouth.

    I have pointed this out several times and LIL'AIPAC doesn't seem to want to deal with that reality. WILL HE NOW RECANT THOSE BELIEFS AGAINST PALESTINIANS RIGHTS TO A SINGLE STATE/HOMELAND IN THE WEST BANK GOING TO THE 67' GREEN LINES WITH AGREED UPON SWAPS ?

    I get my facts from Israeli and Jewish American writers mostly on Israeli sties which are in direct conflict with the far right propaganda that LIL'AIPAC, SoCal and 'OLD GEEZER' (freedomisn't free) promote.


    I suggest that those who constantly attempt to label me as a Jew hater read just one third of the amount I read from Jewish Patriotic writers who regularly decry thefar right Propaganda that promotes the Occupation, the settlment theft of lands that both block peace and the Propaganda that is constantly being promoted by the AIPAC types toward war, this time with Iran.


    If you'll read as I suggest above, you'll find it hard to come to any other conclusions than that everything with Israel is not as it seems, especially what is promoted by our US Corporate media.

    Read and inform yourselves because there is a hell of a lot more to the story in the Middle East than what the Neo Cons running us toward war would have us believe.

    The ones I name above are rather hopelessly lost in their fanatic propaganda beliefs, but the rest of us have much that we can learn by reading, Having done so, my bet is that an informed US electorate would b against such a trumped up war with Iran. We learned enough from the lies that led us to war with Iraq.
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    Jun 20, 2012 8:25 PM GMT
    And here we go again with the never failing inteligent response of the far right to bomb Iran from the RJ prime example of a TBag carrying Far right Christian Fundi "OLD GEEZER" now freedomisn't free.

    Wheres the inteligent response to inteligent points from our far righties on RJ ??
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    Jun 20, 2012 8:33 PM GMT
    ahhh. is that RLD up there talking about teabaggers again? I think that earns the teabagger jingle jangle


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    Jun 20, 2012 8:47 PM GMT
    "inteligent" isn't it RLD?
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    Jun 20, 2012 11:22 PM GMT
    "OLD GEEZER" do you have any new information that's crossed your eyes while reading what I pointed out above ?

    Anyhing new to share that you've learned from what you've read in your own research ?

    I'm sure it will be earth shattering to your republican far right sensitivities, but I challenge you to try reading outside your usual FOX type hype, then get back to us.

    We're waiting for some enlightening information rather than just the repetition of far right apologist blather.

    GO AHEAD !!! SUPRISE US BY OPENING YOUR MIND TO FACTS.!!!
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    Jun 21, 2012 12:24 AM GMT
    bend over RLD, GEEZER WHO IS OLD, here it cums

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    Jun 21, 2012 7:20 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said"inteligent" isn't it RLD?

    The man has shown over and again that he spells as poorly as he thinks.
    The empty barrel that nonetheless makes lots of noise.
    As if that makes up for anything.

    Which is hardly lost on anyone.
    Just put him on ignore like most everyone else has.
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    Jun 21, 2012 7:22 AM GMT
    Muslim thread needs Muslim theme song

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    freedomisntfree said"inteligent" isn't it RLD?

    The man has shown over and again that he spells as poorly as he thinks.
    The empty barrel that nonetheless makes lots of noise.
    As if that makes up for anything.

    Which is hardly lost on anyone.
    Just put him on ignore like most everyone else has.


    He has been on ignore for quite a while. I saw his post because I started reading without being logged in.
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    Jun 27, 2012 8:42 PM GMT
    What the OP reports in this thread is obvious. Comes right from the horses mouth.
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    Jun 28, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
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    Wolverine4 said
    freedomisntfree said"inteligent" isn't it RLD?

    The man has shown over and again that he spells as poorly as he thinks.
    The empty barrel that nonetheless makes lots of noise.
    As if that makes up for anything.

    Which is hardly lost on anyone.
    Just put him on ignore like most everyone else has.


    He has been on ignore for quite a while. I saw his post because I started reading without being logged in.



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    Can't you two and SoCal do better than this ? If all you've got is a left out L to deride then your case is pretty much lacking. None of you seem to want to admit to, or discuss facts that are completely in opposition to your Usual Propaganda. Your ignoring just shows that when facts are presented that you don't want to deal with, you call a few names then start this childish finger in your ears reaction and 'ignore'. Grow up !!

    You seem to delight in LIL'AIPAC's (W4) name calling and derogatory comments, which tactic he uses to avoid facts and dialog that points to his propaganda being false.

    Here's an example from another topic where LIL'AIPAC tries hard to avoid facts and civil discourse. He won't respond there so he popped up here for more derisive tactics. Maybe he's trying to drum up members for his 'ignore' RLD club. LOL.

    LIL'AIPAC keeps bringing up "Clinton Parameters" but refuses to answer these simple questions that point his Ideology out to be totally Hypocritical. Lets see if he'll answer here on this topic since he's trying to 'open wounds' by pouring salt in them, or maybe he'll just stick to name calling and derogatory remarks. This will be interesting !!! This was my response on another topic to his typical avoidance tactics by derogatory statements, just as he wrote above on this topic. So lets combine them and see if he can respond now.


    " LIL'AIPAC is still avoiding responding to questions and points that totally wipe out his propaganda tales and for some reason is dregging up others name calling to come up with support for himself and more repetitions of that same old tired Propaganda and accusations of "hatist", Anti this and Anti that. This is really quite pathetic !!!



    Now here's a fact LIL'AIPAC since you keep bringing up "Clinton Parameters"



    You cannot have it both ways !!!


    You cannot support the Clinton Parameters for a Palestinian independent state next to the State of Israel, while still holding to your far right Zionist Zealot beliefs that:

    (1) Palestinians homeland is in Jordan and not in the West Bank,

    (2) moving Palestinians off their property for Settlement Building and buffer zones for Isreli security around those settlements (which are against the international law) is the right path for Israel to take against them.

    (3) the West Bank is only for the Jews and the Palestinians are squaters on the Israeli Homeland


    Your Father wrote an article which from your writings here, you quite apparently agree with, titled. (paraphrased) "Why do Palesinians need a second homeland"


    So which is it LIL'AIPAC, do you hold to 1.2. & 3 above? or do you want to tell us that you want an Independent Palestinian State starting at the 67' lines with agreed upon swaps, next to the state of Isreal in the West Bank With contiguous access to the Gaza Strip ?

    Continueing to ignore and just repeat your propaganda and name calling only hurts your cause and shows your lack of willingness to have open dialog and compromise"


    We are waiting LIL'AIPAC !!


    Since you drag your derogatory tactics around in the other topics, lets carry it all the way and seek answers to questions you seem desperate to avoid, so desperate that your only left with derision as a responce to facts you do't like.




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    back to this subject, Its of little consequence what some General In Iran says about his hate for Israel, its the government of Iran who decides that and there has been plenty of Admissions from TOP ISRAELI's and other officials and media around the world that have documented that Irans Leadership has not threatened to "wipe Israel off the map", the repetition of this mistranslation is used for promoting Israel's/the US Neo Cons and the Christian Fundi's war wish list. This desire to go to war with Iran has nearly the same time frame and origin as did the Iraq war.

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    Jun 28, 2012 5:28 AM GMT
    TigerTim saidWhy is this surprising to anyone?

    The Iranian government is truly terrible. They have murdered, tortured and thoroughly oppressed their citizens. They have no legitimacy! Their people have attempted to rid themselves of this government---and been brutally suppressed.

    True, but there are those who continue to deny this.
    Why? Because the enemy (Iran) of their enemy (Israel) is their friend.

    Thus we've seen not just the vapid denial of the topic, but even denial of the protests in Iran a few years back and of Iran's brutal suppression of them. Worse, we've seen denial of Iran's abysmal human rights records, including their treatment of gays.