North Carolina pastor thinks gays should be put in concentration camps

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    May 21, 2012 4:29 PM GMT
    In a sermon blasting President Obama for his same-sex marriage support, Pastor Charles L. Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, North Carolina, offered a novel — and horrific — solution to the so-called gay scourge: build an electric fence and let "lesbians, queers and homosexuals" starve to death.

    "I figured a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers," he says in his sermon, delivered on May 13. "Build a great, big, large fence — 150 or 100 mile long — put all the lesbians in there... Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals and have that fence electrified so they can't get out… And you know what, in a few years, they'll die." Worley fails to understand that gay people are born, not made, and that there would just be more LGBT folk coming down the line.

    He also that if he's asked who he'll vote for, he'll reply, "I'm not going to vote for a baby killer and a homosexual lover."

    The not-so-holy man concludes, "God have mercy. It makes me pukin' sick to think about — I don't even whether or not to say this in the pulpit — can you imagine kissing some man?"

    Throughout the sermon, many of his congregants can be heard calling out "Amen."

    Read more: http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/nc-pastor-wants-to-build-electrified-fence-to-contain-starve-and-ultimately-kill-gays-video.html#ixzz1vWRhmixy


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    May 21, 2012 4:47 PM GMT
    Heard sometime in the future: "Pastor Chuck, what are YOU doing in here?!?"
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    May 21, 2012 6:47 PM GMT
    Ya gotta love how he's already meticulously measured out the accurate dimensions of the fence. Hey "pastor," what's the height on that thing, "agin?"
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    May 21, 2012 6:50 PM GMT
    It's a good thing I wasn't attending that service. I would have taken that as a terroristic death threat, and acted accordingly. icon_evil.gif
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    May 21, 2012 7:11 PM GMT
    Why is it that these people can't be held legally accountable for the hate they're spreading and be sued or locked up?
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    May 21, 2012 7:22 PM GMT
    On Huffington Post a commenter is encouraging anyone who lives near that church to file a Federal Hate Crimes report with the US Department of Justice.
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    May 21, 2012 7:31 PM GMT
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    N. Carolina "pastor" Charles Worley preaches #LGBTQ death. Contact and let him know how we feel - 828-428-2518 - pastor@prbcnc.com
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    May 21, 2012 7:32 PM GMT
    Trepeat saidWhy is it that these people can't be held legally accountable for the hate they're spreading and be sued or locked up?
    Because the govt is stupid.
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    May 21, 2012 7:49 PM GMT
    Anderson Cooper better be covering this tonight. Let's see, another sick NC Pastor, a homophobic teacher, and Ravi getting a 30-day slap on the hand...all in one day.
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    May 21, 2012 8:10 PM GMT
    This is obviously Obama's fault for saying he supports gay marriage.
    Whaddya mean that doesn't make sense?
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    May 22, 2012 12:48 AM GMT
    Anderson Cooper just covered this story on CNN. Says church may lose its tax-exempt status for advocating who to vote for, as well as planting seeds of hate.
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    May 22, 2012 12:51 AM GMT
    wrestlervic saidAnderson Cooper just covered this story on CNN. Says church may lose its tax-exempt status for advocating who to vote for, as well as planting seeds of hate.

    MAY? NO mainline US church has ever lost it's tax-exempt status for political activity. Please cite the case, other than some fly-by-night storefront church operation.

    The law is on the books, but it's never enforced. Do you think the US government will ever remove the tax-exempt status of the Catholic Church, or the LDS, which have done as much, if not worse with their illegal political activities?
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    May 22, 2012 12:54 AM GMT
    I wonder if the conservative parties support these kind of churches..
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    May 22, 2012 12:55 AM GMT
    This just in, some random guy is a fucking idiot.

    And we care why?
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    May 22, 2012 12:55 AM GMT
    I'm confused: are the Fundies scared of Nazis, or do they think they had it right? Which is it?

    I mean, how are you both against and for scary nationalism, internment camps, and execution of undesirables?

    That's like being a little pregnant, or sort of a vampire.

    You really have to commit.
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    May 22, 2012 12:59 AM GMT
    wrestlervic saidAnderson Cooper just covered this story on CNN. Says church may lose its tax-exempt status for advocating who to vote for, as well as planting seeds of hate.
    Will never happen! The IRS is scared shitless of thumpers.. just look at Iran or any other theocracy!!
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    May 22, 2012 1:05 AM GMT
    Trepeat saidWhy is it that these people can't be held legally accountable for the hate they're spreading and be sued or locked up?

    Because there is no justice, nor accomplishment, in silencing viewpoints by force. They have every right to say their thoughts (reprehensible though they may be). We can never make a claim to truth or honest progress though if our views triumph by forcibly silencing others.
    Such cries as his will fade as people come to see them for the irrational intolerance that they are. And when that happens, when tolerance becomes predominant because people realized on their own the errors of their (or their forebearers') ways: that will be a real victory.
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    May 22, 2012 1:08 AM GMT
    Elusium saidI'm confused: are the Fundies scared of Nazis, or do they think they had it right? Which is it?

    I mean, how are you both against and for scary nationalism, internment camps, and execution of undesirables?

    That's like being a little pregnant, or sort of a vampire.

    You really have to commit.


    No, no.
    I've got a teapartier cousin. I'm begining to get it.
    You see, they're for death camps, but they're for grassroots death camps. No bloated government death camps with all the resultant overspending.

    (More seriously, my cousin explained that one of the problems with taxes was that they denied people the ability to do christian charity - which must come from individuals (or churches?), but didn't count if done via the government. -- a little off topic there, sorry.)
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    May 22, 2012 1:36 AM GMT
    In my opinion, this kind of irrational desperation / wackadoodle craziness indicates that the end is near for the bigots who built their belief systems around hate and ignorance...
    I think we're witnessing the death throes of the social conservative movement. It's like a cockroach that wiggles more right before it dies.

    Of course it will take a few more years to really be extinguished, but the handwriting is on the wall, and they can read it too.
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    May 22, 2012 1:49 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidIn my opinion, this kind of irrational desperation / wackadoodle craziness indicates that the end is near for the bigots who built their belief systems around hate and ignorance...
    I think we're witnessing the death throes of the social conservative movement. It's like a cockroach that wiggles more right before it dies.

    Of course it will take a few more years to really be extinguished, but the handwriting is on the wall, and they can read it too.


    I sure hope your right. Hey, let's put all the Republicans, tea baggers, John Birchers and wing nuts behind that electrified fence!! icon_smile.gif
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    May 22, 2012 3:11 AM GMT
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    Trepeat saidWhy is it that these people can't be held legally accountable for the hate they're spreading and be sued or locked up?

    Because there is no justice, nor accomplishment, in silencing viewpoints by force. They have every right to say their thoughts (reprehensible though they may be). We can never make a claim to truth or honest progress though if our views triumph by forcibly silencing others.
    Such cries as his will fade as people come to see them for the irrational intolerance that they are. And when that happens, when tolerance becomes predominant because people realized on their own the errors of their (or their forebearers') ways: that will be a real victory.


    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2380915/?forumpage=2
    neosyllogy saidWhile this is an extreme example, I do have to say I think "reproductive rights" politics tend to err strongly on the over protective side.
    Personally I'd strongly support some sort of number based (not profile based) limit on children allowed per person. No given person should be stopped from having children, but limiting the number of children someone is allowed to inject into society seems very wise to me.
    (1-child per couple is extreme, but 3 seems very reasonable to me (given that not everyone will choose to have 3. ..or better yet 1.4 children per person with child'credits' saleable [like pollution credits, though don't harp on that analogy icon_razz.gif] . I realize this isn't happening in the US anytime soon though... :/ )


    What keeps these two trains of thought from colliding?
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    May 22, 2012 3:15 AM GMT
    It seems like there's been more and more of these ill wishing pastors being outspoken, I feel this has something to publicity more than anything.
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    May 22, 2012 3:18 AM GMT
    Trepeat saidWhy is it that these people can't be held legally accountable for the hate they're spreading and be sued or locked up?

    Because in the United States, if it's covered over by a blanket of [faux] Christianity, it's regarded as untouchable. Had he been a Muslim cleric, he would be getting the wet towel in Cuba by now.
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    May 22, 2012 3:22 AM GMT
    The man is a paid preacher and does not even know the Bible. Where in the Bible did Jesus treat ppl in such a manner. Jesus preached against the very shit this jerk is spouting. God is love not hate.
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    May 22, 2012 3:22 AM GMT
    dontknowwhy saidI wonder if the conservative parties support these kind of churches..
    Fuck, they are members.