SHAKES AND FOOD...

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    Jul 23, 2008 11:15 PM GMT
    ITALIC TEXT GOES HERE EVERYONE HERE GIVES GREAT ADVICE ON HOW TO GAIN WEIGHT, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE FORGET THAT GAINING WAY IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE HUMAN A HUMAN BEING. A LOT OF THE GUYS ON HERE SAY TO MAKE SHAKES WITH SOME TYPE OF PROTEIN SHAKE OR POWDER. WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE NATURAL SHAKES? AND NATURAL FOODS? WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT SOME TYPE OF PROTEIN BARS AND NEVER GIVE ADVICE ON THE NATURAL FOODS. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF SOMEONE HERE TELLS ME HOW TO GAIN WEIGHT, BUT BY DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY. MEANING, NATURAL SHAKES; FOR EXAMPLE, BLEND 3 APPLES AND 4 ORANGES TOGETHER (SOMETHING LIKE THAT). THANK YOU BOYS, YOU ARE ALL HELPFULL
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    Jul 24, 2008 12:00 AM GMT
    fahernandezo saidITALIC TEXT GOES HERE EVERYONE HERE GIVES GREAT ADVICE ON HOW TO GAIN WEIGHT, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE FORGET THAT GAINING WAY IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE HUMAN A HUMAN BEING. A LOT OF THE GUYS ON HERE SAY TO MAKE SHAKES WITH SOME TYPE OF PROTEIN SHAKE OR POWDER. WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE NATURAL SHAKES? AND NATURAL FOODS? WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT SOME TYPE OF PROTEIN BARS AND NEVER GIVE ADVICE ON THE NATURAL FOODS. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF SOMEONE HERE TELLS ME HOW TO GAIN WEIGHT, BUT BY DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY. MEANING, NATURAL SHAKES; FOR EXAMPLE, BLEND 3 APPLES AND 4 ORANGES TOGETHER (SOMETHING LIKE THAT). THANK YOU BOYS, YOU ARE ALL HELPFULL


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    Jul 24, 2008 12:09 AM GMT
    Yup, nothing like a no-protein, all-fructose shake to gain weight the "natural", "right" way. There really isn't anything fundamentally more natural about an apple than whey, or about an orange compared to a salmon filet or chicken breast. I eat a lot of fruit for its other benefits (fiber, antioxidants, etc--although apples and oranges aren't as good for net benefit as many other fruit choices), but relying on it for the bulk of your calories is a direct path to serious fat gain.
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    Jul 24, 2008 12:10 AM GMT
    Natural shakes unfortunately are very time consuming and expensive if you do them right and often. A simple natural shake is milk or yogurt, fruits and juices, with protein powder. Protein powder is natural so check it out. When doing the 6 meal a day plan, you will find that incorporating a few protein drinks, like myoplex or lean body or another will be fine. I am an all real food eater and I was worried about these protein packs being processed but they are fine check them out. But I only use vanilla or non flavored and put in my own fruits and things.
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    Jul 24, 2008 12:15 AM GMT
    Shakes are not a substitution for not eating, you still need fruits, veggies, meats, eggs and such. I am lean and 180lbs, 9% body fat, high energy, active, so I was having to spend too much time eating too much food for what my body needed, and
    quality , natural protein shakes really helped me, but if your not looking to bulk up, you might not need them.
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    Jul 24, 2008 12:17 AM GMT
    one last thing, i got my weight the natural way, hard consistent smart working my
    a__ of, eating right and protein (protein is natural by the way).
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    Jul 24, 2008 12:24 AM GMT
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    fahernandezo saidITALIC TEXT GOES HERE EVERYONE HERE GIVES GREAT ADVICE ON HOW TO GAIN WEIGHT, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE FORGET THAT GAINING WAY IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE HUMAN A HUMAN BEING. A LOT OF THE GUYS ON HERE SAY TO MAKE SHAKES WITH SOME TYPE OF PROTEIN SHAKE OR POWDER. WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE NATURAL SHAKES? AND NATURAL FOODS? WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT SOME TYPE OF PROTEIN BARS AND NEVER GIVE ADVICE ON THE NATURAL FOODS. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF SOMEONE HERE TELLS ME HOW TO GAIN WEIGHT, BUT BY DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY. MEANING, NATURAL SHAKES; FOR EXAMPLE, BLEND 3 APPLES AND 4 ORANGES TOGETHER (SOMETHING LIKE THAT). THANK YOU BOYS, YOU ARE ALL HELPFULL


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    Jul 24, 2008 6:05 AM GMT
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    Jul 24, 2008 6:13 AM GMT

    What's with the caps?
    I hope you asked around before you posted this? I eat only food to maintain my size, no shakes or pills, except for a multi (these are essential). I don't really understand what the whole shake craze is about: you want oatmeal, an apple, and a meat for breakfast, pound it like a man does.

    Like this man does, everything I use for gains is natural and chewed. I only use my blender to mix drinks (for recreational purposes ofcourse). Eat the right things and a lot of them, no need to worry about how much non muscle you gain, you just need some good foundation, Mr.
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    Jul 24, 2008 6:18 AM GMT
    Agh... That was painful.
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    Jul 24, 2008 8:39 AM GMT
    Simple. I shake it to the left and shake it to the right. icon_wink.gif
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    Jul 24, 2008 10:14 AM GMT
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    Jul 24, 2008 11:14 AM GMT
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    Jul 26, 2008 9:14 PM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle said
    BoarderX saidrelying on it for the bulk of your calories is a direct path to serious fat gain.


    No, not correct. If you think that is the case then try eating a diet of all fruits and veggies for a week and see how much weight you gain. You'll lose weight.

    People don't get fat on fruit. Especially when you incorporate the fruit intact which includes a lot of fiber.

    Fruit juices void of fiber over-spike insulin. If you eat something like this along with fattening foods you can spike your insulin and thus create a more anabolic environment for the fat consumed in your meal to go directly to your fat stores.

    Eat whole fruits blended into shakes or simply eat them by themselves.


    Yes, try eating 3,000 calories per day of fruit for a week or two and check your body composition. I haven't done it, but the nutrition/endocrinology research on the topic as at least very suggestive about the likely outcome.

    Vegetables, with virtually no fructose, aren't the issue. Don't get me wrong, I love and eat a lot of fruit, but it isn't inherently better or more "natural" than sources of protein. Which is was the original post suggested: gain weight the "right" way by substituting fruit for protein.
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    Jul 26, 2008 9:58 PM GMT
    Sure you could blend 3 apples and 5 oranges or just buy a carton of juice.

    Like ways you could make a natural protein shake from parts off eggs or milk. Or just buy the exact same in a powder flavored like chocolate/strawberries.


    The whole natural idea is just rubbish protein shakes aren't something artifical synthesized in a lab they made from "natural" products

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    Jul 27, 2008 10:23 PM GMT
    BoarderX saidYup, nothing like a no-protein, all-fructose shake to gain weight the "natural", "right" way. There really isn't anything fundamentally more natural about an apple than whey, or about an orange compared to a salmon filet or chicken breast. I eat a lot of fruit for its other benefits (fiber, antioxidants, etc--although apples and oranges aren't as good for net benefit as many other fruit choices), but relying on it for the bulk of your calories is a direct path to serious fat gain.


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    Jul 27, 2008 10:27 PM GMT
    BoarderX said
    muchmorethanmuscle said
    BoarderX saidrelying on it for the bulk of your calories is a direct path to serious fat gain.


    No, not correct. If you think that is the case then try eating a diet of all fruits and veggies for a week and see how much weight you gain. You'll lose weight.

    People don't get fat on fruit. Especially when you incorporate the fruit intact which includes a lot of fiber.

    Fruit juices void of fiber over-spike insulin. If you eat something like this along with fattening foods you can spike your insulin and thus create a more anabolic environment for the fat consumed in your meal to go directly to your fat stores.

    Eat whole fruits blended into shakes or simply eat them by themselves.


    Yes, try eating 3,000 calories per day of fruit for a week or two and check your body composition. I haven't done it, but the nutrition/endocrinology research on the topic as at least very suggestive about the likely outcome.

    Vegetables, with virtually no fructose, aren't the issue. Don't get me wrong, I love and eat a lot of fruit, but it isn't inherently better or more "natural" than sources of protein. Which is was the original post suggested: gain weight the "right" way by substituting fruit for protein.


    Very helpfull when it comes down to the subject. Thanks man.