Federal Spending Under Obama Has Risen At The LOWEST Rate Since The 1950's

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    May 23, 2012 2:59 AM GMT
    Federsl spending under President Obama has risen at the LOWEST rate since the Eisenhower administration.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-spending-binge-never-happened-2012-05-22?pagenumber=1

    Contrary to the LIES coming from the right-wingers.

    Mitt Romney.com claims that: "Since President Obama assumed office three years ago, federal spending has accelerated at a pace unprecedented in recent history".
    That is a LIE.
    As the facts prove.

    The FACT is that the three worst presidents in "recent history" for accelerating federal spending are:
    Reagan
    Bush Jr.
    Bush Sr.
    Which is no surprise since those presidents governed under the principle that "deficits don't matter".

    When will the Repubs stop LYING?
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    May 23, 2012 3:10 AM GMT
    RickRick91 saidWhen will the Repubs stop LYING?

    Never. Nor will their conseraposse agents here, who read directly from the Party script.
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    May 23, 2012 3:32 AM GMT
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    RickRick91 saidWhen will the Repubs stop LYING?

    Never. Nor will their conseraposse agents here, who read directly from the Party script.




    The conservaposse will do and say anything to try to bullshit the naive and uninformed among us into voting Repub.

    They're desperate to try to keep the Bush tax cuts for the rich in place.
    That's why they spend SO much time here posting right-wing lies and propaganda.


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    May 23, 2012 3:37 AM GMT
    RickRick91 saidWhen will the Repubs stop LYING?
    When they start doing something that rhymes with lying. icon_twisted.gif
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    May 23, 2012 3:59 AM GMT
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    May 23, 2012 4:02 AM GMT
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    May 23, 2012 4:05 AM GMT
    Of course, no conservaposse member has even touched on this.
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    May 23, 2012 4:31 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidOf course, no conservaposse member has even touched on this.



    They're hoping that this thread will quickly disappear so they can get back to their usual lying and bullshitting.
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    May 23, 2012 3:45 PM GMT
    I have browsed through the 360 page budget document provided on line via the White House web site. US government spending has been somewhat flat since fiscal year 2009, some of the years after FY09 going up & some years going down. Fiscal year 2009 began on October 1, 2008. At that time, George W. was still POTUS (though his party didn't control either house), John M & and Barak O. were still running for office. For FY09 there were significant expenses due to the stimulus. So Obama has kept the spending close to that FY09 number, though according the the White House provided document, that will change with large increases in both spending and taxing coming over the next few years.

    IMO, the debate should be rather or not the elevated spending level of FY09 should have been used as a base line for future budgets. Again IMO, as a country the gap between revenue and spending is too large. The only fix is to raise taxes, cut spending or both.

    Regardless of which party one supports (and I support neither) the US has a money problem that needs fixed regardless of which party is to blame.

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    May 23, 2012 7:21 PM GMT
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    joe_diesel1 said

    IMO, the debate should be rather or not the elevated spending level of FY09 should have been used as a base line for future budgets.


    Right. The elevated spending was supposed to be for that one year of stimulus only, but instead, the Democrats have refused to pass a budget in 3 years because they want to keep the spending at those "temporary" levels indefinitely.

    That's the whole point - and nobody reports on it at all.

    -barack-obama-nancy-pelosi-harry-reid-6f




    TOTAL BULLSHIT

    The 2009 budget was determined by BUSH.

    The first budget that was determined by President Obama was 2010.

    Bush didn't leave office until 2009 and his budget continued into President Obama's first year.

    The first budget that was determined by President Obama was the 2010 budget.

    You Repubs have no shame do you?
    You just lie and lie and lie.
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    May 23, 2012 8:11 PM GMT
    No response from the rest of the conservaposse?

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    May 23, 2012 8:39 PM GMT
    LOL...... They're checking their FOX Files but they don't have a response for ................ THE TRUTH

    Holy Crap .... And just think Karl Rove and his GPS group just spent a kool ten Million to say just the opposite

    Not that Karl Rove and his GPS have anything against the truth...... NAH!! icon_smile.gif
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    May 23, 2012 9:24 PM GMT
    GQjock saidLOL...... They're checking their FOX Files but they don't have a response for ................ THE TRUTH

    Holy Crap .... And just think Karl Rove and his GPS group just spent a kool ten Million to say just the opposite

    Not that Karl Rove and his GPS have anything against the truth...... NAH!! icon_smile.gif




    Yup.
    The dirty Repub Super PAC's are going to spend hundreds of billions of dollars spreading LIES in a desperate attempt to try to buy this election.
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    May 23, 2012 10:56 PM GMT
    Y'all might want to re-read my entire post before responding further. Rather or not it was directed to me or the first person who quoted my text. It's clear that certain of those that did respond didn't know what they were responding to as I clearly stated that the "elevated base line" was started under G.W. Bush even going so far as listing the FY start date and the fact that Obama & McCain we still running for office. Further, I made it clear I do not a support republicans or democrats. It's somewhat disheartening to know that without knowing the details that more then one person are so pre-programmed that they spit out a response so out of touch.
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    May 23, 2012 11:01 PM GMT
    RickRick91 said
    southbeach1500 said
    joe_diesel1 said

    IMO, the debate should be rather or not the elevated spending level of FY09 should have been used as a base line for future budgets.


    Right. The elevated spending was supposed to be for that one year of stimulus only, but instead, the Democrats have refused to pass a budget in 3 years because they want to keep the spending at those "temporary" levels indefinitely.

    That's the whole point - and nobody reports on it at all.

    -barack-obama-nancy-pelosi-harry-reid-6f




    TOTAL BULLSHIT

    The 2009 budget was determined by BUSH.

    The first budget that was determined by President Obama was 2010.

    Bush didn't leave office until 2009 and his budget continued into President Obama's first year.

    The first budget that was determined by President Obama was the 2010 budget.

    You Repubs have no shame do you?
    You just lie and lie and lie.


    rickrick,

    Please re-read my entire post. I think you'll find it's different then you assumed.
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    May 23, 2012 11:03 PM GMT
    GQjock saidLOL...... They're checking their FOX Files but they don't have a response for ................ THE TRUTH

    Holy Crap .... And just think Karl Rove and his GPS group just spent a kool ten Million to say just the opposite

    Not that Karl Rove and his GPS have anything against the truth...... NAH!! icon_smile.gif


    GQ,

    Same request buddy. I think if you re-read my entire first post you may feel different.
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    May 24, 2012 1:50 AM GMT
    joe_diesel1 saidI have browsed through the 360 page budget document provided on line via the White House web site. US government spending has been somewhat flat since fiscal year 2009, some of the years after FY09 going up & some years going down. Fiscal year 2009 began on October 1, 2008. At that time, George W. was still POTUS (though his party didn't control either house), John M & and Barak O. were still running for office. For FY09 there were significant expenses due to the stimulus. So Obama has kept the spending close to that FY09 number, though according the the White House provided document, that will change with large increases in both spending and taxing coming over the next few years.

    IMO, the debate should be rather or not the elevated spending level of FY09 should have been used as a base line for future budgets. Again IMO, as a country the gap between revenue and spending is too large. The only fix is to raise taxes, cut spending or both.

    Regardless of which party one supports (and I support neither) the US has a money problem that needs fixed regardless of which party is to blame.








    A careful reading of your post contains a glaring error.

    You state correctly that FY2009 began on October 1st, 2008 - DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION.

    Then you state INCORRECTLY that the FY2009 contained "significant expenses due to the stimulus".

    The stimulus bill wasn't even passed into law until February 13th, 2009 - MONTHS after the Bush budget was passed.
    To try to blame the stimulus for the size of the Bush FY 2009 budget is bogus.

    And FYI - this thread is about the fact that the Repubs are lying about an Obama spending binge THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
    Your "both parties do it" crap is a bullshit attempt to distract from the important truth about the debt issue.

    NEITHER PARTY disagrees that spending needs to be cut to deal with our debt problem.
    The problem is that the REPUB party refuses to raise taxes on the rich by one cent - even though the Bush tax cuts for the rich have been in place for almost 11 YEARS and have utterly failed to deliver the strong economic growth and strong job growth promised by the Repubs.
    All the Bush taxcuts have done is add 2.5 trillion dollars in debt to the National Debt.

    We need BOTH spending cuts AND tax increases to deal with our debt problem.
    The stumbling block preventing progress being made at getting our debt situation under control is the obstructionist Repub majority in the Congress that cares more about keeping taxes low on the rich than they do about controlling our debt problem.
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    May 24, 2012 1:53 AM GMT
    Wait just a darn second, you mean to tell me that you are gonna go blamin GW Bush and all them no-bid contracts and lied about wars and stuff again? Oh hell no. He may have been stupid and the worst president in the history of stupid presidents, but dammit, can you leeebralls please stop blammin bushes?
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    May 24, 2012 2:22 AM GMT
    smartmoney saidWait just a darn second, you mean to tell me that you are gonna go blamin GW Bush and all them no-bid contracts and lied about wars and stuff again? Oh hell no. He may have been stupid and the worst president in the history of stupid presidents, but dammit, can you leeebralls please stop blammin bushes?




    LOL
    Lets be fair.
    BOTH parties are playing the blame game.
    It's an election year!

    And let's see - Democrats blaming Bush for a recession that hit on his watch versus Romney blaming Obama for a spending binge that never happened.

    Which blame game is worse?
    Which one is DISHONEST?
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    May 24, 2012 3:17 AM GMT
    rickrick,

    I don't give support to either party where it is not earned. I'm not a fan of the republicans or the democrats and have went into great detail in an effort to justify my reasoning in other threads. So, in light of that, I welcome all input so long as it is not disrespectful and will base my opinion on fact not on blind support of any party or person. If in fact I am incorrect, it's just that, an error not a lie in an attempt to manipulate.

    I don't have supporting documentation but, for some reason I seem to recall a massive spending increase to "help" the economy under G.W. Bush. Could the TARP fund been approved and accounted for during FY09?