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May 27, 2012 5:52 AM GMT
Another wheat free day for me. Fairly easy. Eggs, tofu, nuts, a little dried fruit, some almond butter, coffee, and some brown rice were the menu for today. I need to stock up on some greens.
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QUOTE May 27, 2012 9:45 AM GMT
yourname2000 said
MuchMoreThanMuscle said
robbee333 said In the human existence time span we've only really been eating it for the last 400 years.
^ This is not a correct timeline for wheat consumption of corn for that matter. Forms of wheat have been consumed by humans for 11,500 years and corn has been eaten for around 9,000 years.
Mmmm....5000 maybe? At best? Sources?
Regardless, even 12,000 is still only about 500 generations....not much in evolutionary terms.
You want sources? Here ya go, hun.
After doing a scholar.google.com search here are some sources:
The article below is by an author who is of the opinion that wheat consumption dates back as far as 15,000 years ago:
[url]http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=HEQ9AAAAIAAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA1&dq=history+of+wheat&ots=2NxeY6pfw3&sig=Rz2fOej0yQS-6fWsvTyS9Foy0FE#v=onepage&q=history%20of%20wheat&f=false[/url]
Another scholar.google.com source that asserts that wheat cultivate dates back as far as 10,000 years ago:
http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/58/2/131.short
Using scholar.google.com is more reliable and is what I typically used for my undergraduate research work. However, if I were to do a standard google.com search the search becomes quite numerous. Regardless, the time lines seem to be in sync somewhat so I'm guessing there is a level of accuracy using either search engine.
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Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE May 27, 2012 5:16 PM GMTThis source says that humans have been eating grains for at least 100,000 years.
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2009/12/17/humans-feasting-on-grains-for-at-least-100000-years/ -
QUOTE May 27, 2012 8:49 PM GMTNot to play devil's advocate but during this past week I have been noticing that I have been backed up quite a bit. And it wasn't until about a week and a half ago that I started eating wholewheat pasta again. I'm not sure if there is a correlation. My body is super sensitive to external stressors. Over the past several weeks I've been preparing for an intensive language exam which was really stressing me out.
The exam was yesterday so I'm not sure if it's the reapplication of wheat into my diet or the stress of test preparation or a combination of the two. I'll have to experiment to see how I fare with wheat when not in a very stressed out state.
My body will back itself up if I'm emotionally upset over something even if my diet is flawless so who knows? -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 02, 2012 3:28 AM GMTOver a week without wheat.
I seem to be eating more protein. Like, a lot. 6 hard boiled eggs at a sitting? -
QUOTE Jun 02, 2012 3:42 AM GMTEnjoy the protein!
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Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 02, 2012 4:01 AM GMTI hardly eat wheat or rice anymore.
Mostly greens, some fruits, plenty of lean chicken, tuna, salmon when I can get it for (relatively) cheap, pork, and beef.
The rare spot of red wine and ice cream on cheat days.
And boatloads of cottage cheese and eggs. -
QUOTE Jun 03, 2012 5:47 PM GMT
northoz said
MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI eat wholewheat pasta and have discovered wheat gluten as a source of vegetable protein.
I can't say that it makes me fat.
I watch my calorie intake and eat a structured diet. I'm doing fine thus far.
ah 3 times the man.
I always had a belly even as a kid I was skinny as, but always had a belly. Recently I went gluten free and the belly is gone.
Plus I also noticed my sinus cleared.
I told my family this over Xmas and forgot one is a wheat farmer, he didnt like the idea of a wheat free society, however in his defence he has started growing other grains.
I second this... way to go...me too. ... I'm cut out the wheat bread completely, but still doing sourdough, as the yeast transform the carb an protein to another level. In one experiment I did of not eating wheat for 5 days... my sinus problems went away, also lost my love handle. I can't do rice... there has been so much genetic tampering with rice that it hurts me to eat them. -
QUOTE Jun 03, 2012 5:54 PM GMTLucky that we have only non-GMO food in France...I think is realy dangerous to play with the nature as the science is doing right now. I only eat bread from the bakery next door, or cook it myself quiet often with local product. It doesnt cost more than going to the supermarket, and help the locals, I think it time to go back to basic, and stop eating things that doesnt even look like food.
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Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 03, 2012 6:41 PM GMT
AlphaTrigger saidI hardly eat wheat or rice anymore.
Mostly greens, some fruits, plenty of lean chicken, tuna, salmon when I can get it for (relatively) cheap, pork, and beef.
The rare spot of red wine and ice cream on cheat days.
And boatloads of cottage cheese and eggs.
Sounds like my diet. I like to get a belly full of nuts too...especially in the morning. Nut protein seems to be especially satisfying. -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 06, 2012 3:17 AM GMT
MuchMoreThanMuscle said
yourname2000 said
MuchMoreThanMuscle said
robbee333 said In the human existence time span we've only really been eating it for the last 400 years.
^ This is not a correct timeline for wheat consumption of corn for that matter. Forms of wheat have been consumed by humans for 11,500 years and corn has been eaten for around 9,000 years.
Mmmm....5000 maybe? At best? Sources?
Regardless, even 12,000 is still only about 500 generations....not much in evolutionary terms.
You want sources? Here ya go, hun.
After doing a scholar.google.com search here are some sources:
The article below is by an author who is of the opinion that wheat consumption dates back as far as 15,000 years ago:
[url]http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=HEQ9AAAAIAAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA1&dq=history+of+wheat&ots=2NxeY6pfw3&sig=Rz2fOej0yQS-6fWsvTyS9Foy0FE#v=onepage&q=history%20of%20wheat&f=false[/url]
Another scholar.google.com source that asserts that wheat cultivate dates back as far as 10,000 years ago:
http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/58/2/131.short
Using scholar.google.com is more reliable and is what I typically used for my undergraduate research work. However, if I were to do a standard google.com search the search becomes quite numerous. Regardless, the time lines seem to be in sync somewhat so I'm guessing there is a level of accuracy using either search engine.
The wheat that was being consumed 1,000 years ago, 100 years ago, even 50 years ago, is NOT the same wheat that we are eating today. There has not been any testing on genetically modified wheat on our bodies. I'm open to hearing, reading, and learning more about the possible benefits of eliminating this mutant food from my diet. -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 06, 2012 7:25 AM GMT
Laddy1962 saidThe wheat that was being consumed 1,000 years ago, 100 years ago, even 50 years ago, is NOT the same wheat that we are eating today. There has not been any testing on genetically modified wheat on our bodies. I'm open to hearing, reading, and learning more about the possible benefits of eliminating this mutant food from my diet.
Dude, there are no GMO wheat varieties on the market anywhere. Period, end of story.
And why the heck is everybody always open to hearing more about how GMO foods are bad but never open to educating themselves about basic genetics and protein synthesis? Is it just because propaganda and pseudoscience is easier to learn than the simplest of real science? -
QUOTE Jun 06, 2012 8:09 AM GMT
Laddy1962 said
The wheat that was being consumed 1,000 years ago, 100 years ago, even 50 years ago, is NOT the same wheat that we are eating today. There has not been any testing on genetically modified wheat on our bodies. I'm open to hearing, reading, and learning more about the possible benefits of eliminating this mutant food from my diet.
Emmer wheat (which was the type of wheat sited in my sources and consumed thousands of years ago) is still in production today. There are other varieties now, not just emmer.
You bring up a good point about modified foods. You might want to think about how meat sources are now modified with hormones, antibiotics and whatever else they inject these animals for the purpose of agricultural profit. This has only been done since roughly the 1930's.
Fruits and veggies are genetically engineered so you can say just about everything we put in our bodies nowadays is not how things were 100 years ago.
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Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 07, 2012 4:46 AM GMTTwo weeks wheat free! Not that hard at all. I had lunch today at the DeYoung Museum and had the Salad Nicoise. It came with baguette. I put it on the side and didn't think twice.
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Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 07, 2012 5:35 AM GMT
GAMRican saidTwo weeks wheat free! Not that hard at all. I had lunch today at the DeYoung Museum and had the Salad Nicoise. It came with baguette. I put it on the side and didn't think twice.
Way to go, if you are persistent and look out for other alternatives it doesnt have to be that hard.
I also rarely go down the aisles at the Supermarket these days. Luckily I can eat the same things over and over and not get bored.
At first when i went dairy free I couldnt believe he difference that was 12 years ago, Wheat and gluten products have now been mostly off my list of foods for a much shorter time, and the effects have been more dramatic. i.e my first summer has passed and not one single ear infection.
I do truly believe that as you age your tolerances for certain foods change.
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QUOTE Jun 07, 2012 5:52 AM GMT
northoz said
I also rarely go down the aisles at the Supermarket these days. Luckily I can eat the same things over and over and not get bored.
I do truly believe that as you age your tolerances for certain foods change.
I am the same way. I can eat the same thing day in and day out.
I am noticing how my body is becoming more sensitive to certain foods. Not sure if it is lack of tolerance or if I am simply more sensitive (because I am more in tune with my body more than ever). -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 07, 2012 5:56 AM GMTI'm giving in....my agent called me fat so I'm cutting out wheat..
hopefully i'll get down to the right bf% -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 07, 2012 6:08 AM GMTWhy all this talk of wheat without any reference to... THE HARVEST MOON?
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Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 07, 2012 6:12 AM GMT
MuchMoreThanMuscle said
northoz said
I also rarely go down the aisles at the Supermarket these days. Luckily I can eat the same things over and over and not get bored.
I do truly believe that as you age your tolerances for certain foods change.
I am the same way. I can eat the same thing day in and day out.
I am noticing how my body is becoming more sensitive to certain foods. Not sure if it is lack of tolerance or if I am simply more sensitive (because I am more in tune with my body more than ever).
Me too, Ive noticed when I have a cheat day and I have say a small amount of pasta, white rice, chocolate, coffee....anything really that I ate often in the past, I get a bad reaction.
I need to do a bit more homework on the subject.
@7Fmark its not about being fat for me so much as the bloating that wheat products cause. -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 07, 2012 6:23 AM GMTThe reason you may be seeing a "belly" when taking in wheat is because of they way it is structured and broken down.
Wheat is much more resistant to being digested by the body so it stays in you for a longer period of time, thus giving you a "bloated" feeling... which in turn, increases your stomach size. -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 07, 2012 6:46 AM GMT
_Mohamed_ saidThe reason you may be seeing a "belly" when taking in wheat is because of they way it is structured and broken down.
You know too much. Stop being so smart.
Wheat is much more resistant to being digested by the body so it stays in you for a longer period of time, thus giving you a "bloated" feeling... which in turn, increases your stomach size.
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Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 07, 2012 6:48 AM GMT
_Mohamed_ saidThe reason you may be seeing a "belly" when taking in wheat is because of they way it is structured and broken down.
Wheat is much more resistant to being digested by the body so it stays in you for a longer period of time, thus giving you a "bloated" feeling... which in turn, increases your stomach size.
ah yeah that's exactly what it is. Sorry if I didnt make that clear earlier in the thread.
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QUOTE Jun 07, 2012 10:03 AM GMT
AlphaTrigger said
The rare spot of red wine and ice cream on cheat days.
Never picked you for a red guy AlphaT - whats your grape of choice? -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Jun 07, 2012 7:41 PM GMT^^^ It's not just the bloating from digestion, today's (read: Monsanto's) wheat is not only higher in gluten (and a more problematic version of it) but also of another protein called gliadin. Gliadin is known to stimulate hunger with a study Dr Oz quoted saying that people who ate wheat on average ate 400 extra calories/day to feel satiated compared to people who don't, because of the gliadin in the wheat.
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QUOTE Jun 07, 2012 8:16 PM GMTI eat wheat products and don't have a belly. All about moderation and avoiding fast food and soda for me.
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