Hypnotism - real or bull?

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    May 24, 2012 2:27 PM GMT
    JP made a reference to a failed hypnotic attempt in another thread. That got me thinking about hypnotism in general, and whether it is real, or bullshit?

    One time I was with a bunch of friends in Vegas, and we went to a "sexy" hypnotism show - Dr. Naughty. It was completely tacky, giggly straight women laughing at dildos and the like.

    I got called up onto stage for part of the act, along with a whole bunch of other people who were "hypnotized" into doing silly, suggestive stuff. It was a complete hoax - it was all about the pressure to conform, wondering whether you would look more stupid performing the silly stunt or ruining the illusion.

    Have any of you ever been hypnotized? (And no, Paulflexes, I'm not talking about roofies, lol).
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    May 24, 2012 2:33 PM GMT
    I had a psychologist try to hypnotize my psychology class in college. Mostly I just fell asleep... lol

    Although my trigger word is "haywire". If I hear it spoken out loud, I've been told I do a strip tease then start dancing the funky chicken... icon_wink.gif

    It's madness.... icon_twisted.gif
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    May 24, 2012 2:49 PM GMT
    like this?

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    May 24, 2012 3:12 PM GMT
    Stuttershock saidlike this?


    Well, that answers that. Way to tank a thread. icon_wink.gif

    I love Penn & Teller, but I hadn't seen this segment. (Though their new show, Penn & Teller Tell a Lie, is kind of suck. Too bad.)
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    May 24, 2012 3:37 PM GMT
    showme saidWay to tank a thread. icon_wink.gif


    Sorry, I just felt that this thread was detracting too much from all threads on racism and politics, and we can't have that.
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    May 24, 2012 4:15 PM GMT
    Mere suggestion influences those who sleepwalk through life, who keep themselves only semiconscious of even their own being.
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    May 24, 2012 4:18 PM GMT
    Here I go swimming upstream again.

    I think that there is some value in hypnotism in certain situations.

    Back in college I knew a fellow who had terrific concentration problems. He worked with a professional hypnotist to condition himself to study more effectively and it really helped him. I also worked with a dental student at the medical college here who was trying out hypnotism to relax his patients. He said it worked for some and not for others, but it did work. Interesting stuff.
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    May 24, 2012 4:20 PM GMT
    theantijock saidMere suggestion influences those who sleepwalk through life, who keep themselves only semiconscious of even their own being.


    Whoa. I need to go back to a philosophy class. icon_wink.gif
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    May 24, 2012 4:22 PM GMT
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    theantijock saidMere suggestion influences those who sleepwalk through life, who keep themselves only semiconscious of even their own being.


    Whoa. I need to go back to a philosophy class. icon_wink.gif


    Well, you can try that, but it will only ruin your hypnotic experience. (& then we're gonna have to drug you for similar effect). Buy you a drink, sailor?

    With just three beers I can hypnotise that str8 person into having a gay experience.
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    May 24, 2012 4:24 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    showme said
    theantijock saidMere suggestion influences those who sleepwalk through life, who keep themselves only semiconscious of even their own being.


    Whoa. I need to go back to a philosophy class. icon_wink.gif


    Well, you can try that, but it will only ruin your hypnotic experience. (& then we're gonna have to drug you for similar effect).


    Hey, I said no roofies in this thread!!! icon_razz.gif
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    May 24, 2012 4:25 PM GMT
    Ooops, my bad. Sorry.
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    May 24, 2012 4:31 PM GMT
    theantijock saidOoops, my bad. Sorry.


    Ok, I've changed my mind, you may roofie someone so long as it's not me.
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    May 24, 2012 4:44 PM GMT
    I actually prefer walking among the living and not playing with the brain dead.

    But really I think it completely plays into the level of someones awareness and consciousness, of levels of independent thinking, of inhibitions, of taking responsibility for one's own thoughts and actions.

    It's an interesting topic. Another aspect is what has been referred to as mass hypnosis. Just look at the stats in the Gay News Forum thread on a new poll and you'll see a 20% bump in approval for marriage for gay people among blacks just by one guy saying one sentence. Suddenly all of those opinions changed? That doesn't strike me as independent thought. Maybe they were thinking that way anyway, maybe Obama's words were like a shot of whisky, a dash of courage. But that's hypnosis. It is action without responsibility. I now have permission to think this way is a good way to think because my president says it's correct.

    If I'm not responsible for stopping smoking, then whatever damage I have done to myself by smoking is also not my responsibility.
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    May 24, 2012 4:50 PM GMT
    I think it is kind of like subliminal messaging in which some people can be convinced to act in certain ways through much simpler persuasion in the case of hypnosis. Its really intersting and I think it is different for everyone because we all live at different levels of concentration and attention to consciousness on a daily basis. I think of it in terms of a continuoum where people can be receptive or not which is usually why at a show they get a panel of people. But the mind is such a complex topic i think its really interesting. Either way if you can enjoy the moment hynotist shows are usually funny! and it does seem to have a place in medical therapy!
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    May 25, 2012 3:40 AM GMT
    There's always that line "you can't be made to do something you wouldn't normally do" when they talk about hypnosis. Sounds like they're covering their ass so it can't be disproven.

    The Secret had a similar diaper covering its illogic. If you don't get what you want, you're just not believing hard enough. It can never be proven false.
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    May 25, 2012 3:57 AM GMT
    mizzouguy10 said...

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    May 25, 2012 4:00 AM GMT
    Well, there are evidence that hypnotism works better on people who are

    1) more empathetic and open to suggestions
    2) hysterical women

    If you don't fall into those two categories it might now work for you
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    May 25, 2012 4:23 AM GMT
    Well, I know I'm not a woman. Jury's out on empathetic....icon_wink.gif

    CityRiver saidWell, there are evidence that hypnotism works better on people who are

    1) more empathetic and open to suggestions
    2) hysterical women

    If you don't fall into those two categories it might now work for you
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    May 25, 2012 4:27 AM GMT
    I knew that....icon_twisted.gif
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    May 25, 2012 4:32 AM GMT
    I suggest that the OP shut the hell up.
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    May 25, 2012 4:46 AM GMT
    CityRiver saidI knew that....icon_twisted.gif


    That I'm not empathetic? icon_wink.gif
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    May 25, 2012 4:48 AM GMT
    CityRiver saidWell, there are evidence that hypnotism works better on people who are

    1) more empathetic and open to suggestions
    2) hysterical women

    If you don't fall into those two categories it might now work for you


    Test! ^See he's not open to my suggestion to shut up, therefore he doesn't fall into either category. Solved!
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    May 25, 2012 4:51 AM GMT
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    CityRiver saidWell, there are evidence that hypnotism works better on people who are

    1) more empathetic and open to suggestions
    2) hysterical women

    If you don't fall into those two categories it might now work for you


    Test! ^See he's not open to my suggestion to shut up, therefore he doesn't fall into either category. Solved!


    Another scientific proof! Trolli and I proved that bisexuality doesn't exist in another thread today. Scientists should study us for how smart we are.
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    May 25, 2012 4:53 AM GMT
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    CityRiver saidWell, there are evidence that hypnotism works better on people who are

    1) more empathetic and open to suggestions
    2) hysterical women

    If you don't fall into those two categories it might now work for you


    Test! ^See he's not open to my suggestion to shut up, therefore he doesn't fall into either category. Solved!


    Scientifically speaking, people who might be open to suggestion to A but not to B. It's called therapist-to-client rapport. It's similar to having sex, the chemistry is important
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    May 25, 2012 4:56 AM GMT
    showme saidScientists should study us for how smart we are.

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