Racism

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    May 24, 2012 8:58 PM GMT
    Alright, this seems to be the theme of my day...

    Here is my question to you.. how many racist comments does one need to make before he can be considered a racist...

    I think all it takes is just one... if the thought is there for something like that to come out that must mean that the thoughts are always there...


    so how many racist comments doest it take to make someone racist?




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    May 24, 2012 9:04 PM GMT
    Is this a trick question?
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    May 24, 2012 9:12 PM GMT
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    May 24, 2012 9:34 PM GMT
    First giving props to MightyMouse87 for referencing "Everyone's a Little Bit Racist" from Avenue Q - nice.

    So, dudewithabeard ... I think a lot depends on what was said and in what context. There's a big difference (in my opinion, anyway) between "I'm not really into dating black guys" and "If a black family moved into my neighborhood, I'd probably torch their house" - y'know?

    My question to you, dude, is: at what point do your racist-comment-making friends get dropped from your list of friends?
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    May 24, 2012 9:51 PM GMT
    I thought this thread was going to be about Nascar. icon_razz.gif
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    May 24, 2012 9:52 PM GMT
    paulflexes: LOL. No, really, I'm laughing out loud.
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    May 24, 2012 10:34 PM GMT
    ChoklitDaddy saidpaulflexes: LOL. No, really, I'm laughing out loud.
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    May 24, 2012 10:52 PM GMT
    I agree. There is a difference between unrealized ignorance and ideas that spring racism. You can generally tell by the context of what people say. Sometime it's blatant, sometimes it's inferential, that's what you have to watch. Everyone can believe stereotypes and perceived notions, but depending on what someone says and how they act against someone else is what determines their heart. You can always judge by consistent fruit. It's not easy but sometimes you have to trust your gut. If you call them on it and it is a defensive stance verses a humble apology, then you know there is something behind the words they say.
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    May 24, 2012 11:16 PM GMT

    My disdain for racism comes from growing up around Christians, including ministers, who used the "n" word without thought. On top of that was the blatant racism from church members when a predominantly black church was trying to move into the neighborhood. Needless to say the petition being passed around church did not make it to me.

    For these reasons and others I am overly sensative and critical of religion and racist. And to answer the question of when I cut someone out of my life, its when they continue to say things in front of me when they know how I feel. Disrespect me, then there really never was a friendship to begin with.
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    May 24, 2012 11:26 PM GMT
    dudewithabeard saidMy disdain for racism comes from growing up around Christians, including ministers, who used the "n" word without thought.
    +infinity
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    May 25, 2012 1:15 AM GMT
    dudewithabeard saidT

    My disdain for racism comes from growing up around Christians, including ministers, who used the "n" word without thought. On top of that was the blatant racism from church members when a predominantly black church was trying to move into the neighborhood. Needless to say the petition being passed around church did not make it to me.

    For these reasons and others I am overly sensative and critical of religion and racist. And to answer the question of when I cut someone out of my life, its when they continue to say things in front of me when they know how I feel. Disrespect me, then there really never was a friendship to begin with.


    Well they were NOT sharing the love of God, that's for sure.. they definitely didn't read when Jesus said that the two greatest commandments were to love God with all of your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. So either they hated themselves or they weren't following the words of the Man they gave their life to. Sorry you dealt with that, and thanks for keeping your heart right and doing those things. I hate to hear that.
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    May 26, 2012 6:41 AM GMT
    This thread breaks my heart dude. Humans are better than this, but may be I'm a dreamer. Well, I'll hit the surf and keep dreaming bro.
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    May 26, 2012 6:42 AM GMT
    I recently heard the expression...."I'm not racist, but my penis is."

    Does it have anything to do with this thread? I dunno.
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    May 26, 2012 6:45 AM GMT
    Depends on context and perspective. Recently it has come to light that I live with actual racists who cover it up with clever jokes. When engaged further into conversation... they truly are racist. It makes me slightly uncomfortable that I live with two people who should know better, but more uncomfortable to know that had one of their brothers not be a homosexual... I wouldn't be their friend.

    Ignorance.
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    May 26, 2012 6:53 AM GMT
    mizzouguy10 saidIs it racist to have foreseen that the black posters would bring up religion in the thread about racism? Even if it happened?


    It is racist to talk about "the black posters."
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    May 26, 2012 7:24 AM GMT
    I think people kind of forget what racism really means or is.

    Now there's a general consensus that it's words that you say and who you say them to that determines whether you are racist or not. Now that media and it's coverage of civil rights issues have completely warped our idea of it. Because of this, there then the backlash of people who want to be un-pc to just a prove a point or because Lisa Lampinelli gets away with it and they wish "People would lighten up".. so all the lines are blurred so you must go to the direct old school meaning of racism to even know whether someone is racists or not, and put on your thinking cap to discern whether someone is saying whatever they are saying because they have prejudice towards a group of people, and treat them greatly differently than they would their own race and are not above infringement on that separate races rights... and promotes degradation of that person for being of different race.


    For me It's in the sentences whether i know someone is racist...and after awhile, yeah, the comments add up.. i could not answer when... it just depends on what those comments are...

    like if a white guy hits me up and his first sentence to me "You're articulate for a black guy, You must have not been raised around other black people." then i'll think.. dim.. ignorant.. lets see where this goes... If he follows it up with.. "You're not dumb at all like the rest of them. You have a job. I fucking hate black freeloaders that try their best to land a good white man like myself." Then i'm sure this guy is racist... but if he follows after i at anytime piss him off slightly "You're like the fucking rest of them. Losersish black men." then yeah... he's circumventing straight out calling me a nigger and it shows that his idea all relate to my race being inferior and thus i'm not deserving of life as human being... i'm subpar to him. THATS RACIST.


    However... He doesn't have to say anything in this example though. He does not need to say that. He can just meet me.. and assume i can't pay for something.. and leave me mid date and say simply "I'm always disappointed in black people."or something slighter and still be racist but say "I'm not racist! I have black friends. I never use the N-word".
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    May 26, 2012 7:55 AM GMT
    Actions. Look at their actions, especially the subtle ones. Forget words. Look at actions.
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    May 26, 2012 12:35 PM GMT
    ChoklitDaddy saidpaulflexes: LOL. No, really, I'm laughing out loud.
    Ditto! hahaahahahaha!!
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    May 26, 2012 12:38 PM GMT
    I thought people followed social normative rules cause they wanted to; not pushing the envelope to see how much of a truly bad thing they could do before they got caught, or maybe I'm just crazy here... some "-isms" are stupid!
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    May 26, 2012 1:26 PM GMT
    Talking about race isn't bad. Characterizing all members of a race as having the same characteristic is. Prejudging in this way is the ESSENCE of prejudice.

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    mizzouguy10 saidIs it racist to have foreseen that the black posters would bring up religion in the thread about racism? Even if it happened?


    It is racist to talk about "the black posters."


    Nope, that's where modern America gets confused about racism. Talking about a minority does not make someone a bigot towards that minority, neither does criticizing it necessarily.

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    May 26, 2012 2:29 PM GMT
    mizzouguy10 saidIs it racist to have foreseen that the black posters would bring up religion in the thread about racism? Even if it happened?


    Is it generalizing to know that some person that can't read would say something like this when in actuality it was the OP who said something about religion?
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    May 26, 2012 4:05 PM GMT

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    May 26, 2012 4:32 PM GMT
    omg, a unique topic that has NEVER been covered before?!!?!?!?!!

    wow!! you're so profound, OP!
    Well done, keep up the good work and keep those thoughts of urs in ur little head coming!

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    May 26, 2012 4:36 PM GMT
    mizzouguy10 said
    showme said
    mizzouguy10 saidIs it racist to have foreseen that the black posters would bring up religion in the thread about racism? Even if it happened?


    It is racist to talk about "the black posters."


    Nope, that's where modern America gets confused about racism. Talking about a minority does not make someone a bigot towards that minority, neither does criticizing it necessarily.




    Well, this is a first, and I can't believe I'm about to say this, but I'm agreeing with Mizzouguy here. Criticizing another race has caused more than one person on here to call me a racist. That and pointing out their own hypocrisy. Say anything remotely negative about race and you're automatically a "racist". Ironically, these same people always ignore the threads where I defend people that are truly victims of racism (such as Obama.)
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    May 26, 2012 4:39 PM GMT
    I don't think racism is the right word... but stigma probably would be...

    There is a lot of stigma towards colored gay men....to be honest, gay culture has almost always been centered around the beauty of "white men" and the "white is right" mentality....

    Unfortunately, it's hard to remove that thought from the "general population of gay men"...

    I have great friends who are beautiful and when we go to bars, they aren't approached.

    Yea, yea...I get it... it's just the way it is... but there is so much subtle labelling in gay culture that it's sad.