Stephanie Cutter Exposes the Lies in Rove's Latest Attack Ads

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    May 26, 2012 9:42 PM GMT
    I love this woman. She speaks to the American people like adults.

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    May 26, 2012 11:27 PM GMT
    Stephanie Cutter is a good Obama foot soldier because she is a liar and a deflector. Sounds very sincere, but she did not refute a single specific point they made. She is full of it.

    Crossroads: 1 in 5 homeowners still underwater
    Cutter: Did not refute what they actually said. Just spun.

    Crossroads: Obama broke promise to cut taxes on middle class Americans because Obamacare raises 18 different taxes
    Cutter: Does not refute what they actually said. Just spun.

    Crossroads: Obama promised if you like your healthcare plan you can keep it. Many projected to lose their plans and be put into a govt pool
    Cutter: Continued the Obama lie. Didn't even address what Crossroads said, but talked about Romney.

    Crossroads: Obama promised to cut deficit in half by the end of his first term
    Cutter: Did not even address what they said. Just said Obama had a plan and talked about Romney.

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    May 26, 2012 11:30 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidStephanie Cutter is a good Obama foot soldier because she is a liar and a deflector. Sounds very sincere, but she is full of it.


    Keep telling yourself that, John.
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    May 26, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
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    socalfitness saidStephanie Cutter is a good Obama foot soldier because she is a liar and a deflector. Sounds very sincere, but she is full of it.


    Keep telling yourself that, John.

    I looked at both. Actually I had seen her little video several days ago. But don't let the facts get in your way. They never do.
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    May 27, 2012 12:01 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said
    socalfitness saidStephanie Cutter is a good Obama foot soldier because she is a liar and a deflector. Sounds very sincere, but she is full of it.


    Keep telling yourself that, John.

    I looked at both. Actually I had seen her little video several days ago. But don't let the facts get in your way. They never do.


    Stating the arguments from others are delusional or looney wrong indicates a total inability to comprehend points of view that differ from your own. It's really that simple.
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    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said
    socalfitness saidStephanie Cutter is a good Obama foot soldier because she is a liar and a deflector. Sounds very sincere, but she is full of it.


    Keep telling yourself that, John.

    I looked at both. Actually I had seen her little video several days ago. But don't let the facts get in your way. They never do.


    Stating the arguments from others are delusional or looney wrong indicates a total inability to comprehend points of view that differ from your own. It's really that simple.

    Yes that was something I said, but how is that relevant here? The Obama ad promised to expose all the lies from the Crossroads ad, but, in fact, did not refute a single specific point they made. I pointed that out.
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    May 27, 2012 12:54 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    nanidesukedo said
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said
    socalfitness saidStephanie Cutter is a good Obama foot soldier because she is a liar and a deflector. Sounds very sincere, but she is full of it.


    Keep telling yourself that, John.

    I looked at both. Actually I had seen her little video several days ago. But don't let the facts get in your way. They never do.


    Stating the arguments from others are delusional or looney wrong indicates a total inability to comprehend points of view that differ from your own. It's really that simple.

    Yes that was something I said, but how is that relevant here? The Obama ad promised to expose all the lies from the Crossroads ad, but, in fact, did not refute a single specific point they made. I pointed that out.


    I think the issue here is that Karl Rove is a well-known liar and his ads reflect this. Fact checkers find that of 13 claims vetted only three are "true" or "mostly" true.

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/crossroads-gps/

    Of course, all campaigns oversell their accomplishments and such but thus far Rove's group is lying 75% of the time. That's pretty spectacular.
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    May 27, 2012 1:15 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    socalfitness said
    nanidesukedo said
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said
    socalfitness saidStephanie Cutter is a good Obama foot soldier because she is a liar and a deflector. Sounds very sincere, but she is full of it.


    Keep telling yourself that, John.

    I looked at both. Actually I had seen her little video several days ago. But don't let the facts get in your way. They never do.


    Stating the arguments from others are delusional or looney wrong indicates a total inability to comprehend points of view that differ from your own. It's really that simple.

    Yes that was something I said, but how is that relevant here? The Obama ad promised to expose all the lies from the Crossroads ad, but, in fact, did not refute a single specific point they made. I pointed that out.


    I think the issue here is that Karl Rove is a well-known liar and his ads reflect this. Fact checkers find that of 13 claims vetted only three are "true" or "mostly" true.

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/crossroads-gps/

    Of course, all campaigns oversell their accomplishments and such but thus far Rove's group is lying 75% of the time. That's pretty spectacular.

    On the ad in question, Politifact complains that the ad says Obamacare raises 18 taxes but they could only find 13 where taxes were raised. That doesn't refute the ad, just indicates they could not verify all 18, but still 13 shows the premise that Obama lied is correct.

    On keeping your health care plan, they give Obama partial credit because Obamacare does not specifically force people off their plan. I don't agree with that because the simple fact is it was clear to most what the impact of Obamacare would be.

    Nevertheless, the claim that little Stephanie said about refuting the ad remains BS.
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    May 27, 2012 1:54 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said
    socalfitness said
    nanidesukedo said
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said
    socalfitness saidStephanie Cutter is a good Obama foot soldier because she is a liar and a deflector. Sounds very sincere, but she is full of it.


    Keep telling yourself that, John.

    I looked at both. Actually I had seen her little video several days ago. But don't let the facts get in your way. They never do.


    Stating the arguments from others are delusional or looney wrong indicates a total inability to comprehend points of view that differ from your own. It's really that simple.

    Yes that was something I said, but how is that relevant here? The Obama ad promised to expose all the lies from the Crossroads ad, but, in fact, did not refute a single specific point they made. I pointed that out.


    I think the issue here is that Karl Rove is a well-known liar and his ads reflect this. Fact checkers find that of 13 claims vetted only three are "true" or "mostly" true.

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/crossroads-gps/

    Of course, all campaigns oversell their accomplishments and such but thus far Rove's group is lying 75% of the time. That's pretty spectacular.

    On the ad in question, Politifact complains that the ad says Obamacare raises 18 taxes but they could only find 13 where taxes were raised. That doesn't refute the ad, just indicates they could not verify all 18, but still 13 shows the premise that Obama lied is correct.

    On keeping your health care plan, they give Obama partial credit because Obamacare does not specifically force people off their plan. I don't agree with that because the simple fact is it was clear to most what the impact of Obamacare would be.

    Nevertheless, the claim that little Stephanie said about refuting the ad remains BS.


    Incorrect. In order:

    "Obama has increased a few taxes -- on tobacco and tanning -- that hit people making less than $250,000. But he also gets credit for tax breaks for workers, most notably a payroll tax holiday that is still in effect.

    The Crossroads ad wrongly implies that people of modest means are getting hit with 18 tax increases because of the health care law. In fact, most of the taxes in the health care law are on high-income individuals or the health care industry. We rate their statement Mostly False. "

    "What Obama was talking about was the way his plan left in place the current health care system in the United States. Instead of completely revamping the system, Obama’s plan put more regulations on insurance companies, and it offered subsidies to coverage for the uninsured so they could either buy insurance on their own or sign up for the existing program of Medicaid. Most significantly, his plan left in place both Medicare for seniors and employer-provided insurance for workers.

    The problem with the promise, though, was that some of Obama’s regulations will change how health insurance companies offer plans. It’s also likely it will change the decisions employers make about health coverage, at least to some extent.

    Some workers might see improved coverage, while others see more expensive coverage. Some might see major changes, while others might see trivial changes. In many cases, Obama’s law beefs up requirements on insurance companies."

    In other words, Crossroads states hypothetical that may someday be true as foregone conclusions and lumps together a range of federal regulations that may or may not directly impact tax payers, as taxes.

    In short, they're full of shit. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 27, 2012 2:33 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidWhat Obama was talking about was the way his plan left in place the current health care system in the United States. Instead of completely revamping the system

    It is really quite simple. Obama said many times "If you like your current plan you can keep your current plan. If you like your current doctor, you can continue to see your current doctor." No crap about what he was talking about or what he meant. He said what he said, and in response below, it was a lie.

    Christian73 saidMost significantly, his plan left in place both Medicare for seniors and employer-provided insurance for workers.

    Medicare Advantage is not part of Medicare? Another lie.

    Christian73 saidThe problem with the promise, though, was that some of Obama’s regulations will change how health insurance companies offer plans. It’s also likely it will change the decisions employers make about health coverage, at least to some extent.

    Some workers might see improved coverage, while others see more expensive coverage. Some might see major changes, while others might see trivial changes

    There is no indication that workers will see improved coverage. Total fairy tale, except those under 26 on their parents' plan. "The problem with the promise.." is that Obama and most analysts knew it would not hold.

    Christian73 saidIn other words, Crossroads states hypothetical that may someday be true as foregone conclusions and lumps together a range of federal regulations that may or may not directly impact tax payers, as taxes.

    In short, they're full of shit.

    If not repealed, they will clearly impact the tax payers. No matter how you try to spin it, Obama lied and he knew it at the time. Is that such a surprise. As Rev Wright reported in the book The Amateur, Obama said to him, "The problem with you is you have to tell the truth." Obama has never worried about that because he is fundamentally a dishonest person, and the Stephanie ad claims to debunk the Crossroads ad, but did not address any of the facts in that ad. So a total failure again. But don't worry, her little spiel on the internet won't be seen by too many. Rove and others will be flooding both the airwaves and the internet about this administration and its failures.
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    Christian73 saidWhat Obama was talking about was the way his plan left in place the current health care system in the United States. Instead of completely revamping the system

    It is really quite simple. Obama said many times "If you like your current plan you can keep your current plan. If you like your current doctor, you can continue to see your current doctor." No crap about what he was talking about or what he meant. He said what he said, and in response below, it was a lie.

    Christian73 saidMost significantly, his plan left in place both Medicare for seniors and employer-provided insurance for workers.

    Medicare Advantage is not part of Medicare? Another lie.

    Christian73 saidThe problem with the promise, though, was that some of Obama’s regulations will change how health insurance companies offer plans. It’s also likely it will change the decisions employers make about health coverage, at least to some extent.

    Some workers might see improved coverage, while others see more expensive coverage. Some might see major changes, while others might see trivial changes

    There is no indication that workers will see improved coverage. Total fairy tale, except those under 26 on their parents' plan. "The problem with the promise.." is that Obama and most analysts knew it would not hold.

    Christian73 saidIn other words, Crossroads states hypothetical that may someday be true as foregone conclusions and lumps together a range of federal regulations that may or may not directly impact tax payers, as taxes.

    In short, they're full of shit.

    If not repealed, they will clearly impact the tax payers. No matter how you try to spin it, Obama lied and he knew it at the time. Is that such a surprise. As Rev Wright reported in the book The Amateur, Obama said to him, "The problem with you is you have to tell the truth." Obama has never worried about that because he is fundamentally a dishonest person, and the Stephanie ad claims to debunk the Crossroads ad, but did not address any of the facts in that ad. So a total failure again. But don't worry, her little spiel on the internet won't be seen by too many. Rove and others will be flooding both the airwaves and the internet about this administration and its failures.


    I sincerely hope you seek treatment for ODS. In the past year you've gone from being a rational person to, well, I'm not sure what to call it, but you're in the same camp with Orly Taitz and the other loons.

    The Republican Party, Mitt Romney and conservatism in general no longer have any actual policies. Everything is just anti-Obama. It's a form of hysteria.

    (And your subtle misogyny in referring to a 43 year-old woman with a Georgetown law degree, who served as Chief of Staff for FLOTUS and senior adviser to the White House as "little Stephanie" is duly noted.)
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    May 27, 2012 3:59 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidI sincerely hope you seek treatment for ODS. In the past year you've gone from being a rational person to, well, I'm not sure what to call it, but you're in the same camp with Orly Taitz and the other loons.

    The Republican Party, Mitt Romney and conservatism in general no longer have any actual policies. Everything is just anti-Obama. It's a form of hysteria.

    (And your subtle misogyny in referring to a 43 year-old woman with a Georgetown law degree, who served as Chief of Staff for FLOTUS and senior adviser to the White House as "little Stephanie" is duly noted.)

    The fact is you have abandoned any pretense of looking at facts. Continuing to call Romney a corporate raider when the Bain record in particular, and successful PE firms, in general, show the exact opposite. The Obama ad on GST was so dishonest, and the truth illustrated the complete opposite of what the ad attempted to peddle. I understand that BS is the main thing Obama has going for him so you must cling to exposed lies.