Un-fuacking believable Flexibility and Strength

  • offshore

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    May 27, 2012 3:12 AM GMT


    Fast forward to 2:00+ to see amazing stuff.
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    May 27, 2012 3:15 AM GMT
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    May 27, 2012 3:16 AM GMT
    the human body is a spectacular machine. i'm in awe.
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    May 27, 2012 3:57 AM GMT
    It sure helps if the human body is under 18 and 5 feet. I've been trying to achieve the first minute of that first vid for the past two years. Getting real close (was never a gymnast nor used a trainer, flexibility or otherwise) but it ain't gonna happen before my 50th birthday. As for those other three minutes? Never!
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    May 27, 2012 7:17 AM GMT
    that was actually pretty mediocre. i'm not saying i can do that stuff, but back when i danced i could do about half of it. i expect any high class gymnast to do that-- and do it much better. he never gets his legs into a 180 or beyond in any of the aerial moves, his "flares" and "planks" are pretty sloppy, and he can't sustain a complete vertical pose. it's much easier to go over with your legs than to keep them at 90 degrees. i didn't see him do anything i haven't seen many people do before, and he didn't do them all that impressively.
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    May 27, 2012 7:26 AM GMT
    We have been doing the wall backbend thing in yoga it's easier than
    It looks and a lot of fun.
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    May 27, 2012 7:41 AM GMT
    JPtheBITCH said
    calibro saidthat was actually pretty mediocre. i'm not saying i can do that stuff, but back when i danced i could do about half of it. i expect any high class gymnast to do that-- and do it much better. he never gets his legs into a 180 or beyond in any of the aerial moves, his "flares" and "planks" are pretty sloppy, and he can't sustain a complete vertical pose. it's much easier to go over with your legs than to keep them at 90 degrees. i didn't see him do anything i haven't seen many people do before, and he didn't do them all that impressively.


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    May 27, 2012 7:49 AM GMT
    JPtheBITCH said
    calibro said
    JPtheBITCH said
    calibro saidthat was actually pretty mediocre. i'm not saying i can do that stuff, but back when i danced i could do about half of it. i expect any high class gymnast to do that-- and do it much better. he never gets his legs into a 180 or beyond in any of the aerial moves, his "flares" and "planks" are pretty sloppy, and he can't sustain a complete vertical pose. it's much easier to go over with your legs than to keep them at 90 degrees. i didn't see him do anything i haven't seen many people do before, and he didn't do them all that impressively.


    "Mr. Bingley: Darcy, I shall never understand why you go through the world determined to be displeased with everything and everyone in it."


    "And I will never understand why you are in such a rage to approve of everything and everyone that you meet."

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    That was cute. Now I feel like I have to read Pride and Prejudice.
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    May 27, 2012 7:52 AM GMT
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    calibro saidthat was actually pretty mediocre. i'm not saying i can do that stuff, but back when i danced i could do about half of it. i expect any high class gymnast to do that-- and do it much better. he never gets his legs into a 180 or beyond in any of the aerial moves, his "flares" and "planks" are pretty sloppy, and he can't sustain a complete vertical pose. it's much easier to go over with your legs than to keep them at 90 degrees. i didn't see him do anything i haven't seen many people do before, and he didn't do them all that impressively.
    Sometimes you remind me of the guy at a party who's been everywhere and done everything so he thinks has no reason to find anything other than his own additions relevant to the conversation.




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    May 27, 2012 12:50 PM GMT
    When I was in a bboy crew, I trained hard but wont be able to do anything close to that level.
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    May 27, 2012 4:07 PM GMT
    Impressive the shoulder strength and core strength and balance are all hard but can make the body do some amazing things once mastered!
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    May 27, 2012 4:36 PM GMT
    calibro said...he can't sustain a complete vertical pose. ....


    I'm not sure if that is a fair assessment. I thought that too on first watch, I even thought that maybe he was double jointed and maybe that accounted for both the flexibility and the lack of finding vertical.

    But what I notice moreso than the flexibility and strength is this guy's sense of balance and his proprioception, his sense of where his body is in space. This is not a clutsy guy. He doesn't give a rat's ass about vertical. He's all about torquing twisty and using his body as a lever arm to find the balance of motion.

    There's at least as much that this guy could teach coreography than what coreography can teach him. This is more than strength & flexibility. This guy exhibits an unemcumbered sense of self. Very nice to watch.
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    May 27, 2012 4:44 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    calibro said...he can't sustain a complete vertical pose. ....


    I'm not sure if that is a fair assessment. I thought that too on first watch, I even thought that maybe he was double jointed and maybe that accounted for both the flexibility and the lack of finding vertical.

    But what I notice moreso than the flexibility and strength is this guy's sense of balance and his proprioception, his sense of where his body is in space. This is not a clutsy guy. He doesn't give a rat's ass about vertical. He's all about torquing twisty and using his body as a lever arm to find the balance of motion.

    There's at least as much that this guy could teach coreography than what coreography can teach him. This is more than strength & flexibility. This guy exhibits an unemcumbered sense of self. Very nice to watch.


    they don't give points to people in the olympics who can't hold clean lines for a reason.
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    May 27, 2012 4:47 PM GMT
    calibro said
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    calibro said...he can't sustain a complete vertical pose. ....


    I'm not sure if that is a fair assessment. I thought that too on first watch, I even thought that maybe he was double jointed and maybe that accounted for both the flexibility and the lack of finding vertical.

    But what I notice moreso than the flexibility and strength is this guy's sense of balance and his proprioception, his sense of where his body is in space. This is not a clutsy guy. He doesn't give a rat's ass about vertical. He's all about torquing twisty and using his body as a lever arm to find the balance of motion.

    There's at least as much that this guy could teach coreography than what coreography can teach him. This is more than strength & flexibility. This guy exhibits an unemcumbered sense of self. Very nice to watch.


    they don't give points to people in the olympics who can't hold clean lines for a reason.


    a) rules are made to be broken but b) we don't know that he can't or at least I don't know that & unless you've seen more than what we have to view here, you don't know that either.
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    May 27, 2012 4:47 PM GMT
    I don't think achieving vertical (i.e. static balance) was ever the point. All of his shapes were purposefully riddled with imbalance that finds its own contorted equilibrium. In short, he let go of technique to achieve style - and that's what artists do. They use technique as the means, not the end.
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    May 27, 2012 4:53 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidI don't think achieving vertical (i.e. static balance) was ever the point. All of his shapes were purposefully riddled with imbalance that finds its own contorted equilibrium. In short, he let go of technique to achieve style - and that's what artists do. They use technique as the means, not the end.


    as a dancer and a gymnast, you should know when someone is cheating to hold a pose. and homeboy, while clearly having some chops, is cheating those positions to maintain balance. if the thread were called "look at this kid who can do some moderately difficult things and i like it" i wouldn't much care.
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    May 27, 2012 5:01 PM GMT
    calibro said
    dancerjack saidI don't think achieving vertical (i.e. static balance) was ever the point. All of his shapes were purposefully riddled with imbalance that finds its own contorted equilibrium. In short, he let go of technique to achieve style - and that's what artists do. They use technique as the means, not the end.


    as a dancer and a gymnast, you should know when someone is cheating to hold a pose. and homeboy, while clearly having some chops, is cheating those positions to maintain balance. if the thread were called "look at this kid who can do some moderately difficult things and i like it" i wouldn't much care.


    I didn't say he wasn't cheating, I said he had style.
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    May 27, 2012 5:14 PM GMT
    I actually would have a tough time calling that style. It seems to me this guy is experimenting with his body, seeing what it can do. But he'd definitely pushing some limits.

    I checked out what other vids I could find on him. Calibro's got a point that he could benefit from training. Also I get the cheating critique. That's possibly true, but with what this guy can do, it's hard to imagine holding more rigid & defined poses being far beyond him. I did find some instances of him holding shortly some nice horizontal positions, but still, I'm not convinced he can't hold them longer. Maybe he's a very good faker, which I'd have to be convinced. It just seems more to me that he's mostly interested in movement and not in stillness.
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    May 27, 2012 5:29 PM GMT
    theantijock saidI actually would have a tough time calling that style. It seems to me this guy is experimenting with his body, seeing what it can do. But he'd definitely pushing some limits.

    I checked out what other vids I could find on him. Calibro's got a point that he could benefit from training. Also I get the cheating critique. That's possibly true, but with what this guy can do, it's hard to imagine holding more rigid & defined poses being far beyond him. I did find some instances of him holding shortly some nice horizontal positions, but still, I'm not convinced he can't hold them longer. Maybe he's a very good faker, which I'd have to be convinced. It just seems more to me that he's mostly interested in movement and not in stillness.



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    May 27, 2012 5:33 PM GMT
    That was pretty damn amazing, I'd love to learn to do that!
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    May 27, 2012 5:35 PM GMT
    calibro said
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    calibro said...he can't sustain a complete vertical pose. ....


    I'm not sure if that is a fair assessment. I thought that too on first watch, I even thought that maybe he was double jointed and maybe that accounted for both the flexibility and the lack of finding vertical.

    But what I notice moreso than the flexibility and strength is this guy's sense of balance and his proprioception, his sense of where his body is in space. This is not a clutsy guy. He doesn't give a rat's ass about vertical. He's all about torquing twisty and using his body as a lever arm to find the balance of motion.

    There's at least as much that this guy could teach coreography than what coreography can teach him. This is more than strength & flexibility. This guy exhibits an unemcumbered sense of self. Very nice to watch.


    they don't give points to people in the olympics who can't hold clean lines for a reason.


    LOL! Have you even watched gymnastics since the open-ended scoring system was introduced in 2006? Sadly, lots of gymnasts have still been winning medals with messy form and falls because of the emphasis on extreme difficulty.
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    May 27, 2012 5:43 PM GMT
    I'd rather not be reminded of my aging decrepitude.
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    May 27, 2012 6:01 PM GMT
    pocketnico said
    calibro said
    theantijock said
    calibro said...he can't sustain a complete vertical pose. ....


    I'm not sure if that is a fair assessment. I thought that too on first watch, I even thought that maybe he was double jointed and maybe that accounted for both the flexibility and the lack of finding vertical.

    But what I notice moreso than the flexibility and strength is this guy's sense of balance and his proprioception, his sense of where his body is in space. This is not a clutsy guy. He doesn't give a rat's ass about vertical. He's all about torquing twisty and using his body as a lever arm to find the balance of motion.

    There's at least as much that this guy could teach coreography than what coreography can teach him. This is more than strength & flexibility. This guy exhibits an unemcumbered sense of self. Very nice to watch.


    they don't give points to people in the olympics who can't hold clean lines for a reason.


    LOL! Have you even watched gymnastics since the open-ended scoring system was introduced in 2006? Sadly, lots of gymnasts have still been winning medals with messy form and falls because of the emphasis on extreme difficulty.


    Natasha was robbed of that gold!