As Mitt Romney closes the gap, it is 1980 all over again for the man in the Oval Office.

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    May 27, 2012 5:50 AM GMT
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/mitt-romney/9289994/Barack-Obama-is-facing-his-Jimmy-Carter-moment.html

    What changed? For a start, voters are getting gloomier about the economy. Joblessness remains high and debt is out of control. According to one poll released this week, only 33 per cent of Americans expect the economy to improve in the coming months and only 43 per cent approve of the way that the president has handled it. Voters think Obama has made the debt situation and health care worse. The man who conducted the poll – Democrat Peter Hart – concluded that “Obama’s chances for re-election… are no better than 50-50.”

    The president has tried to distract from America’s economic misery by playing up the so-called culture war. Earlier in the year he decided that he would force Catholic employers to provide contraception to their employees through their insurance plans, and he followed that swipe at social traditionalism by endorsing gay marriage. This embrace of Sixties liberalism has backfired. While contraception and gay marriage often receive popular support in national polls, Americans are far more conservative in the voting booth. Thirty-two states have voted on gay marriage and all 32 have voted to outlaw it – even liberal California. Nor has the culture war rallied his party’s base. In presidential primaries held on Tuesday, 39 per cent of Arkansas Democrats and 42 per cent of Kentuckian Democrats rejected Obama’s re-nomination. In West Virginia, 41 per cent of the state’s Democrats voted for an imprisoned criminal rather than the president.

    The result is that pollsters find Obama and Romney edging towards one another. Rasmussen puts Obama only one point ahead; Gallup calls it a tie. With Romney doing better than the president in key swing states North Carolina and Florida, Gallup has publicly stated that Obama now has a higher chance of losing rather than winning.
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    May 27, 2012 3:19 PM GMT
    Since the first sentence isn't even remotely true (consumer confidence is rising, among other positive signs) will you stipulate the rest of the piece is bullshit? icon_lol.gif
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    May 27, 2012 4:00 PM GMT
    Long way to November. Stupid post.
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    May 27, 2012 4:15 PM GMT
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html
    Direction of Country - RCP Average
    5/3 - 5/20 Right Direction 33.8 Wrong Track 58.5 Spread -24.7

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/154679/national-mood-remains-drag-obama-election-prospects.aspx
    National Mood a Drag on Obama's Re-Election Prospects - U.S. satisfaction and economic ratings low compared with years incumbents won

    Historical Comparisons Are Mostly Inauspicious for Obama

    Comparing today's economic and political ratings with those from previous years when presidents sought re-election reveals that today's climate is more similar to years when incumbents lost than when they won.
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    The extent of Americans' concern about the economy -- as evident in their top-of-mind mentions of it as the nation's "most important problem" -- is greater today than for any president seeking re-election since Jimmy Carter in 1980.
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    May 27, 2012 4:26 PM GMT
    JPtheBITCH said
    Obama tops 300 electoral votes, easy.


    You might not want to get too comfy in that lazy Boy. This is far from over, and will be no cake walk for Obama to be re-elected. Anyone who doesn't think Mitt Romney will be a formidable candidate does so at their own peril...

    http://news.yahoo.com/warning-signs-obama-path-electoral-votes-153258403.html
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    May 27, 2012 4:46 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidAs Mitt Romney closes the gap, it is 1980 all over again for the man in the Oval Office.

    No, it isn't.

    In 1980, we had far less than today's 67% of U.S. households receiving direct Federal government assistance.

    In 1980, we had far less than today's 50% paying ZERO in Federal Income taxes.

    Those two factors right there make an Obama win a real possibility because if you're on the Federal government gravy train, why would you want to vote against your own interests (even if it is better for the country - and yourself in the medium to longer term - if you do)?

    That is a factor, but of the people on government assistance, Obama has most of the Black vote locked up anyway, already taken into account in the polls, but consider this:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/25/poor-white-voters-reject-democrats
    Why do poor white voters reject the Democrats? Well, why shouldn't they?
    The white working class is said to 'vote against its own interests'. This only exposes the patronising assumptions of their accusers

    So white people who are struggling financially are going to vote Republican. And not by a narrow margin. Asked in a recent Washington Post poll which candidate would do more to advance their families' economic interests, middle-class white voters who said they were struggling to maintain their financial positions chose Mitt Romney. And not by a small margin. In this category he beats Barack Obama by 58% to 32%.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/romney-holds-key-advantages-among-financially-struggling-white-voters/2012/05/24/gJQACxPgoU_story.html
    Romney holds key advantages among financially struggling white voters
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    May 27, 2012 7:53 PM GMT
    JPtheBITCH saidOh, Romney may win the popular vote. In fact, I hope he does.
    He will not win the electoral. Obama's victory will be all the sweeter that way.

    The fact is the experts on both sides don't know for sure and some guy on Real Jock who fancies himself as both an economic expert and a political expert hardly knows any better. Although New York and California are firmly in the Obama camp, there are a number of paths becoming increasingly likely for Romney to win the electoral math.

    I know you are enjoying the bravado, and maybe for those who don't delve into the details, your words of certainty comfort them, but for those of us who do understand, your words are hardly impressive. Wise up.
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    May 27, 2012 8:04 PM GMT
    Romney's no Reagan; he'll fade in the backstretch
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    May 28, 2012 2:21 AM GMT
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    JPtheBITCH saidOh, Romney may win the popular vote. In fact, I hope he does.
    He will not win the electoral. Obama's victory will be all the sweeter that way.

    The fact is the experts on both sides don't know for sure and some guy on Real Jock who fancies himself as both an economic expert and a political expert hardly knows any better. Although New York and California are firmly in the Obama camp, there are a number of paths becoming increasingly likely for Romney to win the electoral math.

    I know you are enjoying the bravado, and maybe for those who don't delve into the details, your words of certainty comfort them, but for those of us who do understand, your words are hardly impressive. Wise up.


    John - Haven't we discussed the "den mother" routine before? Just because you say something untrue in an authoritative manner doesn't make it true.

    Obama is gaining on Romney in key swing states and the RNC and the right-wing superPACs are firing up the Obama base while enthusiasm on the right is tepid at best.
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    May 28, 2012 2:32 AM GMT
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    JPtheBITCH saidOh, Romney may win the popular vote. In fact, I hope he does.
    He will not win the electoral. Obama's victory will be all the sweeter that way.

    The fact is the experts on both sides don't know for sure and some guy on Real Jock who fancies himself as both an economic expert and a political expert hardly knows any better. Although New York and California are firmly in the Obama camp, there are a number of paths becoming increasingly likely for Romney to win the electoral math.

    I know you are enjoying the bravado, and maybe for those who don't delve into the details, your words of certainty comfort them, but for those of us who do understand, your words are hardly impressive. Wise up.


    I think it's a bit late for that old dog to learn new tricks.
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    May 28, 2012 2:46 AM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    JPtheBITCH saidOh, Romney may win the popular vote. In fact, I hope he does.
    He will not win the electoral. Obama's victory will be all the sweeter that way.

    The fact is the experts on both sides don't know for sure and some guy on Real Jock who fancies himself as both an economic expert and a political expert hardly knows any better. Although New York and California are firmly in the Obama camp, there are a number of paths becoming increasingly likely for Romney to win the electoral math.

    I know you are enjoying the bravado, and maybe for those who don't delve into the details, your words of certainty comfort them, but for those of us who do understand, your words are hardly impressive. Wise up.


    I think it's a bit late for that old dog to learn new tricks.

    Looks like there are two dogs. But we should not refer to them as dogs, which are highly intelligent.
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    May 28, 2012 2:52 AM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    JPtheBITCH saidOh, Romney may win the popular vote. In fact, I hope he does.
    He will not win the electoral. Obama's victory will be all the sweeter that way.

    The fact is the experts on both sides don't know for sure and some guy on Real Jock who fancies himself as both an economic expert and a political expert hardly knows any better. Although New York and California are firmly in the Obama camp, there are a number of paths becoming increasingly likely for Romney to win the electoral math.

    I know you are enjoying the bravado, and maybe for those who don't delve into the details, your words of certainty comfort them, but for those of us who do understand, your words are hardly impressive. Wise up.


    I think it's a bit late for that old dog to learn new tricks.

    Looks like there are two dogs. But we should not refer to them as dogs, which are highly intelligent.


    Lol
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    May 28, 2012 3:46 AM GMT
    JPtheBITCH saidI love this lofty tone of yours, John. It speaks of your increasing desperation.

    But as Christian noted above, you can stamp your feet and declare whatever makes you sleep a little better at night. But your side has picked an unappealing candidate----which they could hardly help, seeing who was in the field---and you will have to wait until 2016 to get trounced again.

    Maybe by then the GOP will figure out that marching off the right-wing cliff is no path to winning elections. Doubtful, since they seem to learn nothing ever, but possible.

    Sorry but you fail. Who is stamping their feet, you who says the election is a done deal, or I who says it is not certain. I don't know if you are deliberately spinning or are so far gone with your failed ideology that you can't tell up from down. Suspect the latter.
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    May 28, 2012 4:02 AM GMT
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    JPtheBITCH saidI love this lofty tone of yours, John. It speaks of your increasing desperation.

    But as Christian noted above, you can stamp your feet and declare whatever makes you sleep a little better at night. But your side has picked an unappealing candidate----which they could hardly help, seeing who was in the field---and you will have to wait until 2016 to get trounced again.

    Maybe by then the GOP will figure out that marching off the right-wing cliff is no path to winning elections. Doubtful, since they seem to learn nothing ever, but possible.

    Sorry but you fail. Who is stamping their feet, you who says the election is a done deal, or I who says it is not certain. I don't know if you are deliberately spinning or are so far gone with your failed ideology that you can't tell up from down. Suspect the latter.


    Dissembling is not the same as reserving judgment. icon_lol.gif

    You have declared constantly and relentlessly that Obama will be "exposed" and his "lies" will be his undoing. You have further claimed regularly and with no discernible irony or sarcasm that Romney is a strong contender.

    You cannot speak with the authority of Cassandra and then grouse when the people remind you of your prognostications. icon_cool.gif
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    May 28, 2012 4:24 AM GMT
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    JPtheBITCH saidI love this lofty tone of yours, John. It speaks of your increasing desperation.

    But as Christian noted above, you can stamp your feet and declare whatever makes you sleep a little better at night. But your side has picked an unappealing candidate----which they could hardly help, seeing who was in the field---and you will have to wait until 2016 to get trounced again.

    Maybe by then the GOP will figure out that marching off the right-wing cliff is no path to winning elections. Doubtful, since they seem to learn nothing ever, but possible.

    Sorry but you fail. Who is stamping their feet, you who says the election is a done deal, or I who says it is not certain. I don't know if you are deliberately spinning or are so far gone with your failed ideology that you can't tell up from down. Suspect the latter.


    Lol, too true. Christian is exhibit #2.
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    May 28, 2012 4:45 AM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    JPtheBITCH saidI love this lofty tone of yours, John. It speaks of your increasing desperation.

    But as Christian noted above, you can stamp your feet and declare whatever makes you sleep a little better at night. But your side has picked an unappealing candidate----which they could hardly help, seeing who was in the field---and you will have to wait until 2016 to get trounced again.

    Maybe by then the GOP will figure out that marching off the right-wing cliff is no path to winning elections. Doubtful, since they seem to learn nothing ever, but possible.

    Sorry but you fail. Who is stamping their feet, you who says the election is a done deal, or I who says it is not certain. I don't know if you are deliberately spinning or are so far gone with your failed ideology that you can't tell up from down. Suspect the latter.


    Lol, too true. Christian is exhibit #2.


    It's like Socal is Riddler's very own Obi-Won, except for the inevitable victory. icon_lol.gif