51% of the people in Australia now want

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    May 27, 2012 6:40 AM GMT
    Immigration to stop, as it's not sustainable. We need to get our growth into sync to be able to control infrastructure and services.

    The Gillard Government has lost controle of our Boarders, and this needs to be dealt with too.

    With our growth out of controle for the first time many more than half Aussies and Australians, are truly worried as a traffic is choking, trains are full, schools and hospitals are overloaded and we just don't have any faith in the current government to fix it, or control it either.

    Is it time our No vacancy sign goes out for the first time?
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    May 27, 2012 8:10 AM GMT
    I agree we definitely need to get our house in order in terms of infrastructure - however as usual you are projecting the blame on one party / individual when it was in fact the outcome of the actions of many!
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    May 27, 2012 10:19 AM GMT
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    May 27, 2012 10:30 AM GMT
    Off you skip to slurp on your tea!
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    May 27, 2012 10:39 AM GMT
    The tide of public opinions is turning against immigration. yes more than half of Aussies and Australians want our boarder closed and immigration stoped.

    This number of people wanting to close the boarder to immigration has risen from 41% in 2005 to 51% last week.

    I myself feel we have a right to say who comes here, and not illegal immigrants rocking up to Oz with out their papper work in order, and uninvited.
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    May 27, 2012 10:46 AM GMT
    I didnt think that sacrificial practices were very commonplace here (albeit illegal)?
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    May 27, 2012 11:10 AM GMT
    tru_blu_auzzie saidThe tide of public opinions is turning against immigration. yes more than half of Aussies and Australians want our boarder closed and immigration stoped.

    This number of people wanting to close the boarder to immigration has risen from 41% in 2005 to 51% last week.

    I myself feel we have a right to say who comes here, and not illegal immigrants rocking up to Oz with out their papper work in order, and uninvited.


    The sad thing about these illegal immigrants is, that they are jumping the cue! Thus pushing those bonafide refugees further back in line.

    Time and time agin since 07 this government has proven over and over agin that they do not have the ability to govern Oz, that things are getting so bad that over 50% of people here in Oz now want to stop immigration.
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    May 27, 2012 10:21 PM GMT
    OMG things are so dire with this current Labour Government, there is once again talk of another leadership Challenge, and if it's by Kevin Dudd, that will be a real pisser.

    It's time for an election guys, let the people decide; but Julia must go either way; wonder if we could send here make to Wales for the term of her natural life for the damage she has done to Oz, and for only ten pound?
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    May 28, 2012 8:53 AM GMT
    For many it comes down to fewer people, better life, and it's our right as a nation to call that, after all for many it now seems there's little gain by more immigrants.

    Increasing the population does not benifit the economy. The Evidence is in the small state Victoria, thats had the highest immigration, yet jobs are disappearing, and the Government is looking at what it can sell and cut to make ends meat.

    Whats for certain is that population growth has left us with unaffordable housing, crowded public transport, farmland lost to more suburbs, green corridors cut back, housed built in backyards, multi story apartments built in outer suburbs, traffic clogged, more pollution, and land fill, unemployment is raising, jobs are declining, manufacturing is going overseas, yet we will bring in more foreign workers.

    Over the past decade our qulity of life has deteriorated and for what?

    Population growth controle now seems to many in Oz the big issue, and to getting vocal about objecting to immigration is not racist; it's about numbers not were people come from or the shade of their skin.
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    May 28, 2012 10:16 AM GMT
    It just means 10% of Australians are now more racist.

    Tell me, what's the difference between an Aussie and an Australian? You seem to make them out to be two different things!
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    May 28, 2012 10:46 AM GMT
    guyfromnz said
    Tell me, what's the difference between an Aussie and an Australian? You seem to make them out to be two different things!


    I wait with baited breath to see the response to this one lol
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    May 28, 2012 11:27 AM GMT
    guyfromnz saidIt just means 10% of Australians are now more racist.

    Tell me, what's the difference between an Aussie and an Australian? You seem to make them out to be two different things!


    It's very clear it's nothing to do with racism, and it's good that we as a nation have moved forward enough for this to be talked about, as a few years ago they would of been attacked for being racist, for daring to touch such a topic, sad that political correctness has evolved to be used as a weapon to attack, abuse and too repress freedom of speech, by small minded insecure people; but we are moving past this now.

    Oh once upon a time, a Aussie and an Australian was one of the same; but things change. But thats another topic too, and it has been talked about here too in the past.

    PS one does Ponder how long it would take NZ to harden up ,once the boats start to rock up there every week, and their population growth gets out of controle, as it is in Oz?
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    May 28, 2012 12:36 PM GMT
    But who would want to go to NZ? icon_razz.gif

    NZ is a very culturally diverse country with immigrants from many countries and all walks of life - I think it makes NZ what it is and NZ welcomes these people with wide open arms PROVIDED they will be beneficial to NZ's economy, ie have qualifications or job skills and fill job opportunities that are otherwise unable to be filled by NZers.

    Australia is not overflowing because of the immigrants - Australia, like any developed country is simply expanding full stop immigrants or not. If you think any Australian city is overcrowded then you need to visit other thriving world cities like Tokyo, New York, London, Berlin, San Francisco etc. England can house three times the population of Australia with less than one tenth the land mass, ie a land mass which is even smaller than New Zealand! It will take a loooong time for New Zealand to be over-populated, and it will take an even longer time for Australia to be over-populated!

    I would have thought it would be very 'un-Australian' to turn away and reject people who could very well prove to be hard workers and deny them the opportunity to live in and experience a great country which Australians take for granted - or is it actually the Australian way afterall?
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    May 28, 2012 12:38 PM GMT
    also, still wanting to know the difference between an Aussie and an Australian. Can either one of them pronounce the name of their country properly?
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    May 28, 2012 8:23 PM GMT
    guyfromnz saidalso, still wanting to know the difference between an Aussie and an Australian. Can either one of them pronounce the name of their country properly?


    One told you thats another topic, and it has been talked about before, not my fault you missed the boat.
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    May 28, 2012 8:37 PM GMT
    guyfromnz saidBut who would want to go to NZ? icon_razz.gif

    NZ is a very culturally diverse country with immigrants from many countries and all walks of life - I think it makes NZ what it is and NZ welcomes these people with wide open arms PROVIDED they will be beneficial to NZ's economy, ie have qualifications or job skills and fill job opportunities that are otherwise unable to be filled by NZers.

    Australia is not overflowing because of the immigrants - Australia, like any developed country is simply expanding full stop immigrants or not. If you think any Australian city is overcrowded then you need to visit other thriving world cities like Tokyo, New York, London, Berlin, San Francisco etc. England can house three times the population of Australia with less than one tenth the land mass, ie a land mass which is even smaller than New Zealand! It will take a loooong time for New Zealand to be over-populated, and it will take an even longer time for Australia to be over-populated!

    I would have thought it would be very 'un-Australian' to turn away and reject people who could very well prove to be hard workers and deny them the opportunity to live in and experience a great country which Australians take for granted - or is it actually the Australian way afterall?


    So NZ dose have it's limitation and intolerance's, nor does it have the major issue of illegal immigrants, that Oz does. Oz is even more so culturally diverse than NZ, and NZ would not of survived as well as it has without handouts for the tax payers of Oz too, and man people from NZ have come to Oz to get a standard of living they can not get in NZ either.

    But why does Oz have to be busting at it;s seems like NY, London so on; most people who love NY can leave, and the poor are being forced out. It now seems the People of Oz do not want this for our country and it's almost time we put the full sing out, to allow us to grow into our country and not people from other lands fill it up over night.

    yes we have a long history of charity to other nationalities with our open hand and heart as a nation, but there comes a time were charity must start at home too, and we need to but Oz first, and not allow others to decide this for us. Then the boat will have to sail around to NZ, and lets see how long their Borders stay open with open arms?

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    May 28, 2012 8:37 PM GMT
    I'm not going to wade through 200+ threads full of your tripe, how hard is it to summarise for me?
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    May 28, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
    guyfromnz saidI'm not going to wade through 200+ threads full of your tripe, how hard is it to summarise for me?


    Oh you speak to one like that and you expect an answer; you must of left your manners home in NZ.

    Sorry mate I gave my response you will just have to settle for that, but it does not really concern you anyways.

    But just remember if things got bad here, you can always go home. Also the majority of the people of Oz, have expressed they do not want to be busting at the seems like London or NY, and if we wait till then to be proactive, it's way to late, so now is the time to act........ But first we need a new Government in power.

    Have a nice day.icon_wink.gif
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    May 29, 2012 7:43 AM GMT
    True blue Aussies spend half their time in Hawaii as they lust after anything Obama has touched - just ask TBA himself lol
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    May 29, 2012 7:52 AM GMT
    tru_blu_auzzie said
    guyfromnz saidI'm not going to wade through 200+ threads full of your tripe, how hard is it to summarise for me?


    Oh you speak to one like that and you expect an answer; you must of left your manners home in NZ.

    Sorry mate I gave my response you will just have to settle for that, but it does not really concern you anyways.

    But just remember if things got bad here, you can always go home. Also the majority of the people of Oz, have expressed they do not want to be busting at the seems like London or NY, and if we wait till then to be proactive, it's way to late, so now is the time to act........ But first we need a new Government in power.

    Have a nice day.icon_wink.gif


    OH PS that would be well over 10,000.00 post by now tooicon_eek.gificon_wink.gif; and it's been fun tooicon_razz.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    May 29, 2012 7:55 AM GMT
    tru_blu_auzzie saidImmigration to stop, as it's not sustainable.
    Y'all are just tired of USians coming over there and bringing knowledge and stuff.
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    May 29, 2012 8:07 AM GMT
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    tru_blu_auzzie saidImmigration to stop, as it's not sustainable.
    Y'all are just tired of USians coming over there and bringing knowledge and stuff.

    Paul do you want a smack? We actually have high science and technology output per capita (due to us essentially being part of Asia) - usually the parents are snapped up by foreign companies quickly including the US
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    May 29, 2012 8:11 AM GMT
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    paulflexes said
    tru_blu_auzzie saidImmigration to stop, as it's not sustainable.
    Y'all are just tired of USians coming over there and bringing knowledge and stuff.

    Paul do you want a smack?
    As expected, you misspelled snack.

    And yes, please. icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 29, 2012 8:14 AM GMT
    Insinuating TBA represents Us Aussies is like me assuming south beach is a worthy US representative lol
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    May 29, 2012 8:17 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    ozgreenguy said
    paulflexes said
    tru_blu_auzzie saidImmigration to stop, as it's not sustainable.
    Y'all are just tired of USians coming over there and bringing knowledge and stuff.

    Paul do you want a smack?
    As expected, you misspelled snack.

    And yes, please. icon_biggrin.gif

    Perhaps I shall delegate to Tropicalmark next time you see him!