The Abbey Gay Bar banning straight female Bachelorette parties

  • DallasCali6Da...

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    May 28, 2012 7:37 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/25/the-abbey-bans-bachelorette-parties_n_1546008.html

    Here Here!! Just last week I shared with my cousin that I got harassed by a security guard a few years ago at The Abbey because a straight female cut in front of me there (The Abbey gay bar West Hollywood California) and when I asked her what she was doing she told the security guard I was bothering her. The security guard then was giving me a hard time asking me to leave the club. I asked him if he thought it was right that a straight female could run over a gay club and then attempt to be obnoxious. I love my straight guys and girls besties. Just ask that the guys don’t get their panties up in a bunch when gay guys find them attractive in a gay club and the girls to not try to convert and hit on every gay guy they find attractive there.
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    May 28, 2012 8:08 PM GMT
    I had no idea the Abbey hosted bachelorette parties. That in itself is a weird concept. My issue with straight people going to gay venues is when they go for the novelty factor. Or they have this weird notion that they can be gay for a night and flirt with everyone, in order to validate their own attractiveness.
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    May 28, 2012 8:21 PM GMT
    The only fist fights I've ever seen at gay bars were caused by straight people (male and female).
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    May 28, 2012 9:28 PM GMT
    this news is so May 26th
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    May 28, 2012 9:44 PM GMT
    In my opinion, The Abbey is no longer a gay bar.
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    May 28, 2012 10:06 PM GMT
    Eh, I don't know which I find tackier. Bachelorette parties at gay bars, or going to the trouble of banning them. It's like a race to the bottom to be petty and insensitive.

    My operating theory is that the girls want to go out and be around a bunch of attractive guys, but don't want anything untoward to happen to the bride-to-be. The gay bar is a perfect solution.
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    May 28, 2012 10:33 PM GMT
    garyinla saidIn my opinion, The Abbey is no longer a gay bar.


    are you fucking kidding me -___-
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    May 28, 2012 10:36 PM GMT
    no--most nights I see as many women as men--and it's been that way for years.
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    May 28, 2012 10:41 PM GMT
    Thank fucking GOD!!! They are so fucking annoying.
  • billbos

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    May 28, 2012 10:43 PM GMT
    There are some nights at the A-house in Provincetown, which is pretty crowded and small anyway, that the bachelorette parties completely ruin it for everyone else. Not sure what the answer is, but when I go to a gay dance bar I really don't want to deal with packs of drunk obnoxious girls.
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    May 28, 2012 10:44 PM GMT
    JayP said
    garyinla saidIn my opinion, The Abbey is no longer a gay bar.


    are you fucking kidding me -___-


    Honestly I am with him on this. I stopped going over a year ago when it became more of a str8 place. I go to the other bars in WEHO now.
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    May 28, 2012 11:00 PM GMT
    I'll be there next weekend. If I spot any male bashing by women, I'll be sure to put a stop to it.
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    May 28, 2012 11:09 PM GMT
    Worst gay bar in the United States of America ------> The Abbey
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    May 28, 2012 11:46 PM GMT
    abelian0 said
    My operating theory is that the girls want to go out and be around a bunch of attractive guys, but don't want anything untoward to happen to the bride-to-be. The gay bar is a perfect solution.


    One one hand, I can completely understand that. They want a place where they can feel comfortable. But on the other hand, so do we.

    Unfortunately, it seems that 99% of the time, these groups of girls hit the door already three sheets to the wind, with the attitude that they own the place, and that they can freely grope around on anyone they want to, take pictures of men dancing together or kissing as if it were some sort of carnival attraction, make stupid and offensive comments, etc. ... and that should be just fine. It's not. They suck the life out of any room they enter, whether gay bar or straight (my survival job is playing piano bars, and I have to deal with these drunken, penis-tiara-wearing hordes on a weekly basis). And as for gay bars, David Cooley is right: whether they intend to or not, in all but six states, any bachelorette parties coming into a gay bar are basically reminding us that there is still a glaring inequality in this country... and to a certain degree, flaunting it. NOT cool.

    My stance? Congratulations, ladies, and have a great time, but take it somewhere else... for example, a Chippendales show.
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    May 28, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
    So they'll just go to Hamburger Mary's instead.
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    May 29, 2012 12:44 AM GMT
    nomadfornow said
    abelian0 said
    My operating theory is that the girls want to go out and be around a bunch of attractive guys, but don't want anything untoward to happen to the bride-to-be. The gay bar is a perfect solution.


    One one hand, I can completely understand that. They want a place where they can feel comfortable. But on the other hand, so do we.

    Unfortunately, it seems that 99% of the time, these groups of girls hit the door already three sheets to the wind, with the attitude that they own the place, and that they can freely grope around on anyone they want to, take pictures of men dancing together or kissing as if it were some sort of carnival attraction, make stupid and offensive comments, etc. ... and that should be just fine. It's not. They suck the life out of any room they enter, whether gay bar or straight (my survival job is playing piano bars, and I have to deal with these drunken, penis-tiara-wearing hordes on a weekly basis). And as for gay bars, David Cooley is right: whether they intend to or not, in all but six states, any bachelorette parties coming into a gay bar are basically reminding us that there is still a glaring inequality in this country... and to a certain degree, flaunting it. NOT cool.

    My stance? Congratulations, ladies, and have a great time, but take it somewhere else... for example, a Chippendales show.


    Okay, I'll admit I find some of the occasional antics annoying. The penis tiaras were a nice touch in your description, by the way.

    However I totally disagree with your general description. I've found most bachelorette parties involve some drunk girls out for a bit of harmless fun. Yeah, they might ask some clueless questions, or get a bit handsy. But have you been to a gay bar before? I've had guys shove hands down my pants uninvited, reach out and touch my face uninvited, ask me what my penis size is and many, many more offensive questions right off the bat. Gay bars are not a practice range for your best dinner etiquette, sadly.

    I have chatted with the girls before, and sometimes it's really fun. The naivete and sense of adventure they have are contagious, and it's a nice changeup from the usual fare. Especially since I only go to hang out with friends anyway.

    I think what you're doing is pointing to the much more visible minority of disruptive straight people. Most straight guys who go to a gay bar are plenty civil, and most bachelorette parties go unnoticed. Occasionally there is an incident or two, but that's life.

    I just think it's ridiculous to be pissed about other people being able to marry. You know, the ones who show up at gay bars are a lot more likely to be supporters of gay marriage anyway. It's not their fault. And as a matter of community dignity, it looks petty and obnoxious to bar people from celebrating an upcoming wedding. Maybe the situation would be much-improved if people abandoned their bitchy attitudes and engaged these people in a little fun, or politely nudged them towards better gay bar etiquette.
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    May 29, 2012 12:50 AM GMT
    I kind of like this place, it's a really trendy spot in West Hollywood. I sort of get annoyed when annoying drunk straight girls/women start acting really obnoxious/loud and they start grabbing the gay guys' junk. Come on, behave yourself ladies! Anyway, I didn't even know they have bachelorette's parties here, it's good that they banned it I guess. The Abbey is turning into a mixed straight/gay crowd! I guess it's still cool. icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 29, 2012 12:58 AM GMT
    abelian0 said
    nomadfornow said
    abelian0 said
    My operating theory is that the girls want to go out and be around a bunch of attractive guys, but don't want anything untoward to happen to the bride-to-be. The gay bar is a perfect solution.


    One one hand, I can completely understand that. They want a place where they can feel comfortable. But on the other hand, so do we.

    Unfortunately, it seems that 99% of the time, these groups of girls hit the door already three sheets to the wind, with the attitude that they own the place, and that they can freely grope around on anyone they want to, take pictures of men dancing together or kissing as if it were some sort of carnival attraction, make stupid and offensive comments, etc. ... and that should be just fine. It's not. They suck the life out of any room they enter, whether gay bar or straight (my survival job is playing piano bars, and I have to deal with these drunken, penis-tiara-wearing hordes on a weekly basis). And as for gay bars, David Cooley is right: whether they intend to or not, in all but six states, any bachelorette parties coming into a gay bar are basically reminding us that there is still a glaring inequality in this country... and to a certain degree, flaunting it. NOT cool.

    My stance? Congratulations, ladies, and have a great time, but take it somewhere else... for example, a Chippendales show.


    Okay, I'll admit I find some of the occasional antics annoying. The penis tiaras were a nice touch in your description, by the way.

    However I totally disagree with your general description. I've found most bachelorette parties involve some drunk girls out for a bit of harmless fun. Yeah, they might ask some clueless questions, or get a bit handsy. But have you been to a gay bar before? I've had guys shove hands down my pants uninvited, reach out and touch my face uninvited, ask me what my penis size is and many, many more offensive questions right off the bat. Gay bars are not a practice range for your best dinner etiquette, sadly.

    I have chatted with the girls before, and sometimes it's really fun. The naivete and sense of adventure they have are contagious, and it's a nice changeup from the usual fare. Especially since I only go to hang out with friends anyway.

    I think what you're doing is pointing to the much more visible minority of disruptive straight people. Most straight guys who go to a gay bar are plenty civil, and most bachelorette parties go unnoticed. Occasionally there is an incident or two, but that's life.

    I just think it's ridiculous to be pissed about other people being able to marry. You know, the ones who show up at gay bars are a lot more likely to be supporters of gay marriage anyway. It's not their fault. And as a matter of community dignity, it looks petty and obnoxious to bar people from celebrating an upcoming wedding. Maybe the situation would be much-improved if people abandoned their bitchy attitudes and engaged these people in a little fun, or politely nudged them towards better gay bar etiquette.


    YAY - you identify SO much with yer sisters and girlfriends that you almost grew yer own vagina!!!!!

    For the umpteenth time kid - take a buncha drunken bachelors to a Dyke bar to celebrate upcoming nuptuals and see what THEY have to say about the antics.

    Yer not winning any points by being a pussy.

    'nuff said???

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    May 29, 2012 1:18 AM GMT
    nomadfornow said....my survival job is playing piano bars, and I have to deal with these drunken, penis-tiara-wearing hordes on a weekly basis.


    What's wrong with my penis tiara? icon_cry.gif
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    May 29, 2012 1:21 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    nomadfornow said....my survival job is playing piano bars, and I have to deal with these drunken, penis-tiara-wearing hordes on a weekly basis.


    What's wrong with my penis tiara? icon_cry.gif


    Nothing. Yours is lovely. Because your penis is real, not plastic.
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    nomadfornow said
    Scruffypup said
    nomadfornow said....my survival job is playing piano bars, and I have to deal with these drunken, penis-tiara-wearing hordes on a weekly basis.


    What's wrong with my penis tiara? icon_cry.gif


    Nothing. Yours is lovely. Because your penis is real, not plastic.



    You should probably check just to be sure though. icon_eek.gif
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    May 29, 2012 1:35 AM GMT
    Cash said
    abelian0 said
    nomadfornow said
    abelian0 said
    My operating theory is that the girls want to go out and be around a bunch of attractive guys, but don't want anything untoward to happen to the bride-to-be. The gay bar is a perfect solution.


    One one hand, I can completely understand that. They want a place where they can feel comfortable. But on the other hand, so do we.

    Unfortunately, it seems that 99% of the time, these groups of girls hit the door already three sheets to the wind, with the attitude that they own the place, and that they can freely grope around on anyone they want to, take pictures of men dancing together or kissing as if it were some sort of carnival attraction, make stupid and offensive comments, etc. ... and that should be just fine. It's not. They suck the life out of any room they enter, whether gay bar or straight (my survival job is playing piano bars, and I have to deal with these drunken, penis-tiara-wearing hordes on a weekly basis). And as for gay bars, David Cooley is right: whether they intend to or not, in all but six states, any bachelorette parties coming into a gay bar are basically reminding us that there is still a glaring inequality in this country... and to a certain degree, flaunting it. NOT cool.

    My stance? Congratulations, ladies, and have a great time, but take it somewhere else... for example, a Chippendales show.


    Okay, I'll admit I find some of the occasional antics annoying. The penis tiaras were a nice touch in your description, by the way.

    However I totally disagree with your general description. I've found most bachelorette parties involve some drunk girls out for a bit of harmless fun. Yeah, they might ask some clueless questions, or get a bit handsy. But have you been to a gay bar before? I've had guys shove hands down my pants uninvited, reach out and touch my face uninvited, ask me what my penis size is and many, many more offensive questions right off the bat. Gay bars are not a practice range for your best dinner etiquette, sadly.

    I have chatted with the girls before, and sometimes it's really fun. The naivete and sense of adventure they have are contagious, and it's a nice changeup from the usual fare. Especially since I only go to hang out with friends anyway.

    I think what you're doing is pointing to the much more visible minority of disruptive straight people. Most straight guys who go to a gay bar are plenty civil, and most bachelorette parties go unnoticed. Occasionally there is an incident or two, but that's life.

    I just think it's ridiculous to be pissed about other people being able to marry. You know, the ones who show up at gay bars are a lot more likely to be supporters of gay marriage anyway. It's not their fault. And as a matter of community dignity, it looks petty and obnoxious to bar people from celebrating an upcoming wedding. Maybe the situation would be much-improved if people abandoned their bitchy attitudes and engaged these people in a little fun, or politely nudged them towards better gay bar etiquette.


    YAY - you identify SO much with yer sisters and girlfriends that you almost grew yer own vagina!!!!!

    For the umpteenth time kid - take a buncha drunken bachelors to a Dyke bar to celebrate upcoming nuptuals and see what THEY have to say about the antics.

    Yer not winning any points by being a pussy.

    'nuff said???

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    Does it assuage your fragile sense of self-worth to be a total misogynistic dickbag to other people? I mean I have no idea what would happen if a bachelor party went to a lesbian bar, but if it didn't go well, that'd probably be because some maladjusted idiot with no sense of fun ruined it.

    Also, who honestly makes a gay bar his line in the sand? Like that's the *one* sacred thing you cannot take away? It's pathetic.

    Seriously, you're trying to reclaim your masculinity by picking on a bunch of women at gay bars. I think you need to reevaluate your strategy.
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    May 29, 2012 2:01 AM GMT
    abelian0 said
    Cash said
    abelian0 said
    nomadfornow said
    abelian0 said
    My operating theory is that the girls want to go out and be around a bunch of attractive guys, but don't want anything untoward to happen to the bride-to-be. The gay bar is a perfect solution.


    One one hand, I can completely understand that. They want a place where they can feel comfortable. But on the other hand, so do we.

    Unfortunately, it seems that 99% of the time, these groups of girls hit the door already three sheets to the wind, with the attitude that they own the place, and that they can freely grope around on anyone they want to, take pictures of men dancing together or kissing as if it were some sort of carnival attraction, make stupid and offensive comments, etc. ... and that should be just fine. It's not. They suck the life out of any room they enter, whether gay bar or straight (my survival job is playing piano bars, and I have to deal with these drunken, penis-tiara-wearing hordes on a weekly basis). And as for gay bars, David Cooley is right: whether they intend to or not, in all but six states, any bachelorette parties coming into a gay bar are basically reminding us that there is still a glaring inequality in this country... and to a certain degree, flaunting it. NOT cool.

    My stance? Congratulations, ladies, and have a great time, but take it somewhere else... for example, a Chippendales show.


    Okay, I'll admit I find some of the occasional antics annoying. The penis tiaras were a nice touch in your description, by the way.

    However I totally disagree with your general description. I've found most bachelorette parties involve some drunk girls out for a bit of harmless fun. Yeah, they might ask some clueless questions, or get a bit handsy. But have you been to a gay bar before? I've had guys shove hands down my pants uninvited, reach out and touch my face uninvited, ask me what my penis size is and many, many more offensive questions right off the bat. Gay bars are not a practice range for your best dinner etiquette, sadly.

    I have chatted with the girls before, and sometimes it's really fun. The naivete and sense of adventure they have are contagious, and it's a nice changeup from the usual fare. Especially since I only go to hang out with friends anyway.

    I think what you're doing is pointing to the much more visible minority of disruptive straight people. Most straight guys who go to a gay bar are plenty civil, and most bachelorette parties go unnoticed. Occasionally there is an incident or two, but that's life.

    I just think it's ridiculous to be pissed about other people being able to marry. You know, the ones who show up at gay bars are a lot more likely to be supporters of gay marriage anyway. It's not their fault. And as a matter of community dignity, it looks petty and obnoxious to bar people from celebrating an upcoming wedding. Maybe the situation would be much-improved if people abandoned their bitchy attitudes and engaged these people in a little fun, or politely nudged them towards better gay bar etiquette.


    YAY - you identify SO much with yer sisters and girlfriends that you almost grew yer own vagina!!!!!

    For the umpteenth time kid - take a buncha drunken bachelors to a Dyke bar to celebrate upcoming nuptuals and see what THEY have to say about the antics.

    Yer not winning any points by being a pussy.

    'nuff said???

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    icon_neutral.gificon_neutral.gif


    Does it assuage your fragile sense of self-worth to be a total misogynistic dickbag to other people? I mean I have no idea what would happen if a bachelor party went to a lesbian bar, but if it didn't go well, that'd probably be because some maladjusted idiot with no sense of fun ruined it.

    Also, who honestly makes a gay bar his line in the sand? Like that's the *one* sacred thing you cannot take away? It's pathetic.

    Seriously, you're trying to reclaim your masculinity by picking on a bunch of women at gay bars. I think you need to reevaluate your strategy.


    It is NOT misogynistic to ask Women to be repeectful of Men. Period.

    Feel free to read any of my posts. Or ask pretty much anyone on RJ - my sense of self-worth is far from fragile.

    The fact that you "have no idea" what would happen at a Lesbian bar only proves my point. When the day comes that you have a point of view or place of reference bigger than yer Mom's back yard, the local mall or the Dairy Queen parking lot - maybe just MAYBE then you can open yer mouth. Until then, sit quietly and hope that you may actually learn something from the Dudes who have actually EXPERIENCED life rather than just read about it online.

    A Gay bar may not be a sacred cow by any stretch of the imagination. But if it weren't for a few FAGGY DRAG QUEENS drawing the line in the sand at a Gay bar MANY years ago - a two-bit, nickel and dime snot like YOU sure as FUCK wouldn't be on an openly GAY website today.

    Remember THAT the next time you jack off to pics of guys you have no chance of meeting in RL.

    I think my masculinity is quite secure btw. Thanks for the tips on strategy tho.

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    May 29, 2012 2:02 AM GMT
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    Also, who honestly makes a gay bar his line in the sand? Like that's the *one* sacred thing you cannot take away? It's pathetic.


    Stonewall.
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    Gay bars are not about girls having a fabulous Sex and the City night. Shun!