Studies: Republicans more open-minded, better informed than Democrats

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    May 29, 2012 8:43 PM GMT
    Sort of fascinating. While some liberals obsess about Fox and their viewership, these studies suggest they misidentify a causal relationship and highlight a particular lack of intellectual curiosity many Democrats apparently have of financial/fiscal matters.

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/22/science-say-gop-voters-better-informed-open-minded/

    On eight of 13 questions about politics, Republicans outscored Democrats by an average of 18 percentage points, according to a new Pew survey titled “Partisan Differences in Knowledge.”

    The Pew survey adds to a wave of surveys and studies showing that GOP-sympathizers are better informed, more intellectually consistent, more open-minded, more empathetic and more receptive to criticism than their fellow Americans who support the Democratic Party.

    “Republicans fare substantially better than Democrats on several questions in the survey, as is typically the case in surveys about political knowledge,” said the study, which noted that Democrats outscored Republicans on five questions by an average of 4.6 percent.


    And more:

    A March 12 Pew study showed that Democrats are far more likely that conservatives to disconnect from people who disagree with them.

    “In all, 28% of liberals have blocked, unfriended, or hidden someone on SNS [social networking sites] because of one of these reasons, compared with 16% of conservatives and 14% of moderates,” said the report, tiled “Social networking sites and politics.”

    The report also noted that 11 percent of liberals, but only 4 percent of conservatives, deleted friends from their social networks after disagreeing with their politics.

    A March Washington Post poll showed that Democrats were more willing to change their views about a subject to make their team look good. For example, in 2006, 73 percent of Democrats said the GOP-controlled White House could lower gas prices, but that number fell by more than half to 33 percent in 2012 once a Democrat was in the White House.

    In contrast, the opinions of GOP supporters were more consistent. Their collective opinion shifted by only a third, according to the data. In 2006, 47 percent in believed the White House could influence gas prices. By 2012, that number had risen to 65 percent up 17 points compared to the Democrats’ 40 point shift.

    UVA researchers have used a massive online survey to show that conservatives better understand the ideas of liberals than vice versa. The results are described in a new book by UVA researcher Jonathan Haidt, “Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion.”

    The book uses a variety of data to argue that conservatives have a balanced set of moral intuitions, while liberals are focused on aiding victims, fairness and individual liberty. Conservatives recognize how liberals think because they share those intuitions, but liberals don’t understand how conservatives think because they don’t recognize conservatives’ additional intuitions about loyalty, authority and sanctity, Haidt argues.

    The academics’ work is also being backed up by commercial research into the tastes and political views of potential customers.

    For example, researchers have learned that Internet sites offering financial information, sports scores, online-auctions attract far more interest from Republicans than from Democrats, according to a 2010 study by National Media Research, Planning and Placement, based in Alexandria, Va.
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    May 29, 2012 9:14 PM GMT
    The widest partisan gap in the survey came in at 30 points when only 46 percent of Democrats — but 76 percent of Republicans —- correctly described the GOP as “the party generally more supportive of reducing the size of federal government.”

    Pffft. they aint done that in MY lifetime!icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 29, 2012 9:24 PM GMT
    You're posting an article from a website that has been GIVING AWAY GUNS to people who agree to sign up for their email updates??? And you expect us to take this as unbiased reporting? Dude, you've lost yur fuckin mind!
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    May 29, 2012 9:43 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidThe widest partisan gap in the survey came in at 30 points when only 46 percent of Democrats — but 76 percent of Republicans —- correctly described the GOP as “the party generally more supportive of reducing the size of federal government.”

    Pffft. they aint done that in MY lifetime!icon_rolleyes.gif


    Were they talking about the rhetoric or the reality? Cos the GOP doesn´t do what they say they do.
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    May 29, 2012 9:44 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidYou're posting an article from a website that has been GIVING AWAY GUNS to people who agree to sign up for their email updates??? And you expect us to take this as unbiased reporting? Dude, you've lost yur fuckin mind!


    LOL
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    May 29, 2012 11:58 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidYou're posting an article from a website that has been GIVING AWAY GUNS to people who agree to sign up for their email updates??? And you expect us to take this as unbiased reporting? Dude, you've lost yur fuckin mind!


    That was deliberate. It's a rorschach test since they list all their sources and report fairly in this article. I don't expect you to believe it's unbiased reporting but the studies however are what they are.
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    May 30, 2012 1:26 AM GMT
    Given that the right-wing spent the past 48 hours making fun of Chris Hayes for using the phrase "rhetorically proximate", its status as the being "better informed" is very much in doubt.

    Of course, if you bother to read the study, the greatest predictor of being open-minded and better informed was educational attainment. Given that many immigrants, minorities and poor people (who tend en masse to be less educated) make up the Democratic base, this is not a surprising result.

    If you control for education and income, you would have the complete reverse outcome. icon_lol.gif
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    May 30, 2012 2:43 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidGiven that the right-wing spent the past 48 hours making fun of Chris Hayes for using the phrase "rhetorically proximate", its status as the being "better informed" is very much in doubt.

    Of course, if you bother to read the study, the greatest predictor of being open-minded and better informed was educational attainment. Given that many immigrants, minorities and poor people (who tend en masse to be less educated) make up the Democratic base, this is not a surprising result.

    If you control for education and income, you would have the complete reverse outcome. icon_lol.gif


    Lol nice try but no, you really don't.
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    May 30, 2012 2:46 AM GMT
    Reality is subjective.

    The thread title is proof of that fact.
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    May 30, 2012 3:14 AM GMT
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    Christian73 saidGiven that the right-wing spent the past 48 hours making fun of Chris Hayes for using the phrase "rhetorically proximate", its status as the being "better informed" is very much in doubt.

    Of course, if you bother to read the study, the greatest predictor of being open-minded and better informed was educational attainment. Given that many immigrants, minorities and poor people (who tend en masse to be less educated) make up the Democratic base, this is not a surprising result.

    If you control for education and income, you would have the complete reverse outcome. icon_lol.gif


    Lol nice try but no, you really don't.


    No. It really would. How about in the future you read the surveys you post?
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    May 30, 2012 3:29 AM GMT
    It really makes you wonder what would possess someone who is a minority two times over (gay AND Asian), to subscribe to such obvious hogwash as the shit the GOP spews out. But each and every time, he's right there waiting to gobble up anything that comes from the Right Wing Machine.
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    May 30, 2012 3:47 AM GMT
    Scruffypup saidIt really makes you wonder what would possess someone who is a minority two times over (gay AND Asian), to subscribe to such obvious hogwash as the shit the GOP spews out. But each and every time, he's right there waiting to gobble up anything that comes from the Right Wing Machine.


    Dude just look at the survey material and that's all the ammunition you need.

    "54 percent of people with a high-school education or less.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/22/science-say-gop-voters-better-informed-open-minded/#ixzz1wJxfXRaz"

    54% of the people never went to college and probably don't know what there talking about

    "The survey quizzed 1,000 people, including 239 Republicans and 334 Democrats.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/22/science-say-gop-voters-better-informed-open-minded/#ixzz1wJxyDKvi"

    that's 573 dems and repubs combined who are these other 427 people that took the survey? how old are the people taking the survey? its says college grad but it's still pretty vague are we talking community college with an associate's? an art school with a BA in art? a private university with a BA in law? it's not a valid survey it's just a bunch of bullshit is what it is.

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    May 30, 2012 3:53 AM GMT
    Scruffypup saidIt really makes you wonder what would possess someone who is a minority two times over (gay AND Asian), to subscribe to such obvious hogwash as the shit the GOP spews out. But each and every time, he's right there waiting to gobble up anything that comes from the Right Wing Machine.


    Actually it makes you wonder why those like you gobble up views from the left and don't bother to think for yourselves. But for the record, I just prefer not to think of myself as a victim - I also choose to think for myself and actually consider the alternative view (I'm hardly Republican - I am however libertarian).
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    May 30, 2012 4:09 AM GMT
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    Scruffypup saidIt really makes you wonder what would possess someone who is a minority two times over (gay AND Asian), to subscribe to such obvious hogwash as the shit the GOP spews out. But each and every time, he's right there waiting to gobble up anything that comes from the Right Wing Machine.


    Actually it makes you wonder why those like you gobble up views from the left and don't bother to think for yourselves. But for the record, I just prefer not to think of myself as a victim - I also choose to think for myself and actually consider the alternative view (I'm hardly Republican - I am however libertarian).



    You can call yourself whatever you like, but I've been watching the shit you post and it's 100% GOP lies. I guess "Libertarian" sounds better than the "R" word, so if that makes you feel better about sucking up to people who would rather see you dead, then knock yourself out.
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    May 30, 2012 4:13 AM GMT
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    TropicalMark saidThe widest partisan gap in the survey came in at 30 points when only 46 percent of Democrats — but 76 percent of Republicans —- correctly described the GOP as “the party generally more supportive of reducing the size of federal government.”

    Pffft. they aint done that in MY lifetime!icon_rolleyes.gif


    Were they talking about the rhetoric or the reality? Cos the GOP doesn´t do what they say they do.


    I think this is more indicative of the bias in the survey...This is obviously a loaded question...Most democrats don't believe that the Republicans want smaller government...because they don't in their mind: Republicans want government involved in marriage, abortion, adoptions, discrimination, etc...

    Asking such questions as "supportive of smaller government" is biased towards those who would consider it a standing point of their party, IE, the Republicans...who actually believe their party wants to do it. Really?

    That's like me asking the question: "What party is generally more in support of protecting the rights of individuals against discrimination?" With the survey's correct answer being: Democrats

    That question, much like some of the questions on that survey, stink to high hell and are meant to bias the results in a particular direction.
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    May 30, 2012 4:24 AM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    Scruffypup saidIt really makes you wonder what would possess someone who is a minority two times over (gay AND Asian), to subscribe to such obvious hogwash as the shit the GOP spews out. But each and every time, he's right there waiting to gobble up anything that comes from the Right Wing Machine.


    Actually it makes you wonder why those like you gobble up views from the left and don't bother to think for yourselves. But for the record, I just prefer not to think of myself as a victim - I also choose to think for myself and actually consider the alternative view (I'm hardly Republican - I am however libertarian).


    You can call yourself whatever you like, but I've been watching the shit you post and it's 100% GOP lies. I guess "Libertarian" sounds better than the "R" word, so if that makes you feel better about sucking up to people who would rather see you dead, then knock yourself out.


    Why would I need to suck up to anyone? It's kind of surprising the level of intolerance you have to those who are willing to consider positions that are different to your own. Or perhaps it's not - proving the study's point.
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    May 30, 2012 11:06 AM GMT
    Rid ... you ever hear of the term OUTLIER?
    Well lemme be the first to provide that information for you

    In statistics, an outlier is an observation that is numerically distant from the rest of the data

    There are MANY studies that have shown the opposite
    So I wonder ? icon_confused.gif
    I am perplexed why this Daily Caller article seems to have the opposite information
    Daily Caller Daily Caller... Hmmm
    High-profile contributors include Mary Katharine Ham, Ginni Thomas (wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas), blog pioneer Mickey Kaus (Kausfiles), reporter Matt Lewis, and Republican strategist Roger Stone, who serves as the site's "male fashion editor."Wait but who's the founder? ... Oooh who's that guy with the bow tie and who's gay and doesn't even know it?

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    May 30, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
    Scruffypup said... obvious hogwash as the shit the GOP spews out.

    Scruffypup said... 100% GOP lies.

    You responded to a thread that asserts that Republicans are more open-minded and better informed than Democrats. If you care to refute that assertion, you should be able to define and justify what the "shit" and "lies" are rather than grandstanding behind slogans. If you don't step up with something substantive, then you are demonstrating the thread's assertion.

    (We can agree that the opposition to gay marriage is "shit" but it is not a lie. They are stating their position truthfully. Really interested if you can state other shit or any lies.))
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    May 30, 2012 3:34 PM GMT



    If I were to go by the political topics and posts on RJ? I wold have to say roughly 90% no they are certainly not.

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    May 30, 2012 3:36 PM GMT

    Socal said, "(We can agree that the opposition to gay marriage is "shit" but it is not a lie. They are stating their position truthfully. Really interested if you can state other shit or any lies.))"

    Their lies are the reasons that they give for their opposition.



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    May 30, 2012 3:40 PM GMT
    The Daily Caller is a biased right-wing website that, among other paleoconservative crimes and misdemeanors, infamously and gleefully participated in the gun- and race-obsessed smear campaign against Trayvon Martin started by white supremacist website Stormfront.

    No liberal, moderate, centrist, independent, non-partisan, or Democratic voter need take the The Daily Caller's interpretation of any poll (or any thing) seriously.
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    May 30, 2012 3:46 PM GMT
    There is no such thing as an unbias study that tries to prove one side is better than the other.

    Im sure those who sponsered the study is republican, which gives him a bias.

    All this proves is that Riddler is an idiot, but we all ready knew that.
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    May 30, 2012 3:55 PM GMT
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    Socal said, "(We can agree that the opposition to gay marriage is "shit" but it is not a lie. They are stating their position truthfully. Really interested if you can state other shit or any lies.))"

    Their lies are the reasons that they give for their opposition.

    Why not be specific instead of always talking in circles?
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    May 30, 2012 4:43 PM GMT
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    meninlove said
    Socal said, "(We can agree that the opposition to gay marriage is "shit" but it is not a lie. They are stating their position truthfully. Really interested if you can state other shit or any lies.))"

    Their lies are the reasons that they give for their opposition.

    Why not be specific instead of always talking in circles?


    Nice attempt to discredit, but a fail. However, to humour you:

    "My freedom will be taken away."

    "I'm a california doctor who must choose between my faith and my job."

    "Those advocates (for same sex marriage) want to change the way I live"

    "I will have no choice."

    ...and this is just a sample.


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    May 30, 2012 4:50 PM GMT
    Chainers saidThere is no such thing as an unbias study that tries to prove one side is better than the other.

    Im sure those who sponsered the study is republican, which gives him a bias.

    All this proves is that Riddler is an idiot, but we all ready knew that.


    The survey was done by the Pew - which is known to tend left. And to your first point - I tend to agree - that there isn't likely a better side than another and yet it's liberals here who tend to celebrate how intelligent they are compared to conservatives... the reality is somewhat different.

    As for the idiocy - well, we know where you are on that scale icon_wink.gif