Crossfit question..help!

  • italguynj

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    May 30, 2012 1:15 AM GMT
    Does anyone know if you can GAIN muscle mass from Crossfit? I am already really lean and do not want to lose any weight. My goal is to gain 10-15 lbs of muscle mass (looking for round thicker muscles, mostly in my legs).

    I am getting mixed comments on crossfit regarding gaining muscle mass for us ectomorphic guys. I am thinking of joining it at my gym because I could really use the motivation of the instructors and participants but do not want to spend time and money just to get leaner. The instructor says everyone does the same WOD, which seems odd to me because everyone is different and has different goals. Can anyone shed some light??
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    May 30, 2012 2:53 AM GMT
    That was my first big concern when I joined... It leaned me out. A lot. Like 2 waist sizes (32 to a 30).

    But then after several months I began to pack on some mass... and packing on the lean mass hasn't been so bad so far. I'm happy with the results, although I wish I could be a bit bigger.

    Then again... ask top Crossfit Athlete Rich Froning Jr.


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  • italguynj

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    May 30, 2012 11:52 AM GMT
    Thanks. That is my concern. My waist is 29 already and to know that it takes 'several months' to gain mass is well, scary.

    I really can not compare myself to others, it looks like Rich has a larger frame than me. I need to compare apples to apples..you know?
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    May 30, 2012 12:28 PM GMT
    I go to an amazin crossfit box with great programming and trainers. I am hard gainer but I am slowly packing lean muscle mass. I have seen so many members gaining amazing results-- with strength workouts and metcons. Before starting crossfit, I am merely weighing at 135#, now I am around 145#. I used to be at 150 but I like my weight now. I suggest you look at crossfit football programming-- more strength component.

    I might be bias but crossfit works for me.


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    Jun 05, 2012 3:56 AM GMT
    I go to a really great Crossfit box as well, and tend to the ectomorphic side. I've been going for about a year, about 3-4x/wk, and while I've gained definition, strength, speed, and stamina, I can't really say I've gained any size. I weigh almost exactly the same (though lost some fat and gained some muscle). The guy at our Crossfit who is the most into powerlifting said he mixes in elements from Mark Rippetoe's book Starting Strength, which he said he used to really focus on the mass gains he wants for powerlifting.

    I can't say enough good things about how much I've enjoyed my Crossfit experience, but to answer your question directly, it hasn't really helped me put on any size.
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    Jun 05, 2012 3:59 AM GMT
    good timing, I was just about to join CrossFit! I didn't really know about it until yesterday my friend that used to be only bones started looking thick, so I asked. Apparently the majority are increasing muscle but some people seem to lose, I think it has a lot more to do with the nutrition the people are doing at home too! But needless to say I heard a lot of awesome things about the group atmosphere and there's a Living Social Deal here in San Diego for it now!

  • italguynj

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    Jun 05, 2012 12:10 PM GMT
    Thanks for your comments. I went to a Cross fit session and it is not for me. There is way too much cardio (I would NEVER gain weight) and dangerous continuous movements that can cause injuries- especially in the shoulder. When I asked the instructor about the movements and injuries, he said he has a shoulder injury but "does not care" because he loves crossfit. Well I do care because I spent 10 years with a shoulder injury and only swimming and yoga helped. After this session, Crossfit is fine if you want to lose weight but I would advise not doing long, it's just a matter of time an injury will occur.
  • CarbGoggles

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    Jun 05, 2012 12:22 PM GMT
    It will come back to diet. I did it for a while but got burnt out by the personalities at the gym... I'm not really into the crossfit community and their competitive nature. I prefer to workout alone listening to my own music without strangers trying to motivate me. I just think it's awkward.... Anyway, if you don't eat to maintain or put on muscle, you can expect to get leaner until your exercise and caloric intake balance out.
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    Jun 05, 2012 12:35 PM GMT
    italguynj saidThanks for your comments. I went to a Cross fit session and it is not for me. There is way too much cardio (I would NEVER gain weight) and dangerous continuous movements that can cause injuries- especially in the shoulder. When I asked the instructor about the movements and injuries, he said he has a shoulder injury but "does not care" because he loves crossfit. Well I do care because I spent 10 years with a shoulder injury and only swimming and yoga helped. After this session, Crossfit is fine if you want to lose weight but I would advise not doing long, it's just a matter of time an injury will occur.


    Yikes, sorry that was such an unpleasant experience! Sounds like you got a strong "not for me" vibe, and that's a good thing to listen to. I think like any franchise-type thing, each one has its own culture. Our trainers are very aware of injuries, and are fanatics about form. On the heavy lifting days (and some days will be cardio-heavy and others lifting-heavy), the rule is you have to demonstrate correct form with a PVC pipe, and then an empty bar so the coaches can see that your form is correct before attempting any actual weight.

    I think you're correct that since everyone does the same workout, it's impossible to have the program tailored to individual goals. That's a common and quite legitimate complaint about Crossfit.
  • victor8

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    Jun 05, 2012 1:25 PM GMT
    i train with 2 trainer on alternate days...we do a lot of functional weights and bosu...i went to my first cross fit class sunday. loved it...it'll definitely put size on your legs...but i'm afraid it is too hard on my shoulder...which i have trouble with already..
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    Jun 05, 2012 1:49 PM GMT
    Is your gym that offers crossfit sessions affiliated to CROSSFIT? Great trainers are always on the lookout for safety. I belong to an amazing crossfit gym guided by great trainers and amazing programming. Injuries can happen if you don't have good techniques, mobility, and coaching in any sports. Ego also can be a great factor for injuries -- members refusing to complete workouts with a lighter weight when form and technique is poor, for example.

    Crossfit is so popular now that there are so many new crossfit gyms. You need to find one that have good programming.

    I just completed my first 13 reps of unbroken handstand push ups -- I am still smiling icon_smile.gif awesome....


    Good luck bud!

  • italguynj

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    Jun 06, 2012 12:14 AM GMT
    @Mplsxfit : The Crossfit I attended protocol is to train you with a pipe to get the form down before you start any WOD. However, I am more concerned with the continuous movement and over extension of form. They use American - full extension movements, not Russian - which is more of a 90 degree movement. That was their problem. I think in time Cross fit will evolve into more yoga type movements and more 90 degree movements. But that is just my guess.

    2Nbrief2: It's not about finding another Cross fit. It's about my goal to gain weight and not be injured by over extension and continuous movements- regardless of form. Handstand push ups are particularly bad on the shoulders but congrats on your 13!
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    Jun 06, 2012 12:15 AM GMT
    Gotta think for a true ectomorph it really probably is not the best way to pack on mass.
  • nappi

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    Jun 13, 2012 1:47 AM GMT
    What I think alot of people don't realize is that crossfit is a fitness sport, so yes, like any sport injuries happen, you heal and continue to play the game...

    Some bad things about crossfit is that it encourages one to just push it out - try for form but just do it in the end. The group setting creates a competitive environment, which sometimes forces you lift heavy - faster.

    However, cross fit is excellent if done right. I simply do some of the work outs on my own, and some of the Olympic lifts that I can't do I simply change it to something else.

    This site here, from my local san diego group, post their WOD daily, so if anyone wants to just look at it to see what they do every day.... good form can be found on youtube too..

    http://www.crossfit858.com/category/wod/