Americans - embarrassed?

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    Jun 04, 2012 11:58 PM GMT
    Hi guys,

    Often when I see our politicians acting like bogan children in the House of Representatives I feel embarrassed and hope that their actions don't make international news. Part of this stems from Australian's complicated relationship with politicians.

    Don't get me wrong - no country is perfect, but many Australians use America's political system as a standard for a failing democracy.

    Do you feel that way? Do you feel embarrassed?

    note: before you jump down my throat, this isn't meant to be an antagonistic thread. I'm genuinely curious.
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    Jun 05, 2012 12:01 AM GMT
    As an American, I can't help that much of the time there's a big disconnect between politicians and citizens. I feel like most politicians are so caught up in pursuing their own agenda that they completely forget about us and what we want out of our government. So yes, it's disappointing that our extreme politicians (both from the right and left) are who gain media attention and present a distorted image of Americans across the world. I would say that the average American citizen is much better than the average American politician.

    However, I get a kick out of some of the fights that take place in British Parliament. I've seen some hilarious stuff over the years!
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    Jun 05, 2012 12:02 AM GMT
    How do they make their way up in the system without support of the people? Money?
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    Jun 05, 2012 12:04 AM GMT
    Don't fret, you won't have to worry about your politics making international news, as no one really cares about what's going on in Australia anyway...

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    Jun 05, 2012 12:04 AM GMT
    cold saidHi guys,

    Often when I see our politicians acting like bogan children in the House of Representatives I feel embarrassed and hope that their actions don't make international news. Part of this stems from Australian's complicated relationship with politicians.

    Don't get me wrong - no country is perfect, but many Australians use America's political system as a standard for a failing democracy.

    Do you feel that way? Do you feel embarrassed?

    note: before you jump down my throat, this isn't meant to be an antagonistic thread. I'm genuinely curious.


    Well truthfully, it doesn't matter whether or not American politicians' bogus antics make the international news or not cuz in Europe, most countries can't stand the States or more directly, your government. Your presidents' get booed many times when they visit EU countries. So, regardless of what they do, I don't think they have the best international rep anyway.
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    Jun 05, 2012 12:07 AM GMT
    wonofakind said
    Well truthfully, it doesn't matter whether or not American politicians' bogus antics make the international news or not cuz in Europe, most countries can't stand the States or more directly, your government. Your presidents' get booed many times when they visit EU countries. So, regardless of what they do, I don't think they have the best international rep anyway.

    Who is 'your'? Australia? America?
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    Jun 05, 2012 12:09 AM GMT
    cold said
    wonofakind said
    Well truthfully, it doesn't matter whether or not American politicians' bogus antics make the international news or not cuz in Europe, most countries can't stand the States or more directly, your government. Your presidents' get booed many times when they visit EU countries. So, regardless of what they do, I don't think they have the best international rep anyway.

    Who is 'your'? Australia? America?


    America. I don't think there's ANY country who has a beef with the Aussies lol.
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    Jun 05, 2012 12:09 AM GMT
    wonofakind said
    cold said
    wonofakind said
    Well truthfully, it doesn't matter whether or not American politicians' bogus antics make the international news or not cuz in Europe, most countries can't stand the States or more directly, your government. Your presidents' get booed many times when they visit EU countries. So, regardless of what they do, I don't think they have the best international rep anyway.

    Who is 'your'? Australia? America?


    America. I don't think there's ANY country who has a beef with the Aussies lol.


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    Jun 05, 2012 12:13 AM GMT
    Yes, our government has become quite embarrassing. The problem with our system currently, IMHO, is the way political campaigns are funded. Politicians are beholden to rich contributors, such as corporations, the very rich, and political action committees because they need so much money to run for election. The solution is public financing of political campaigns. But, of course, such an action would be opposed by those who currently finance campaigns.

    However, I am also very very much embarrassed by the American people themselves. So many of us are so immensely ignorant. It is really unfuckingbelievable.
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    Jun 05, 2012 12:14 AM GMT
    What is a bogan child?

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    Oh...it's this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogan
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    Jun 05, 2012 12:20 AM GMT
    Has anyone ever remarked that your parliment building looks like a bunker with a ginormous antenna on top of it?

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    Srsly. WTF?
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    Jun 05, 2012 12:27 AM GMT
    Caslon, it's for communicating with our insect overlords.

    Just to flesh it out a bit better for you Liev:
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    Jun 05, 2012 12:32 AM GMT
    Stupid RJ - I posted this in 'All things Gay' for a reason.
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    Jun 05, 2012 12:42 AM GMT
    Not embarrassed at all. Always thought the Australian Parliament much more rowdy. These are pretty tame compared to what I remember, but still more rowdy than the US Congress.





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    Jun 05, 2012 12:49 AM GMT
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    Import saidDon't fret, you won't have to worry about your politics making international news, as no one really cares about what's going on in Australia anyway...


    Still bitter and unhappy about your life, huh... I mean, really, what did your post contribute to what has been a civil conversation?

    OMFG! LOOK WHO'S TALKING! I MEAN REALLY! IT'S OVER. NOBODY CAN EVER EVER SAY ANYTHING TO TOP THIS!!!!
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    Jun 05, 2012 12:54 AM GMT
    Not at all.

    I've been lucky enough to travel a lot spending more than a year in EU as a civilian. I have a sister and a few cousins that were born, raised and still live in Europe. I have family that spends half the year living in the US and the rest of the time in China & Japan. None of who are military. We live/lived amoung the local civilians. From my time in those countries, the US is no more screwed up then they are...

    Not saying it's perfect or there's no room for improvement either...
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    Jun 05, 2012 7:16 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidNot embarrassed at all. Always thought the Australian Parliament much more rowdy. These are pretty tame compared to what I remember, but still more rowdy than the US Congress.







    What no slippery Pete or the one left wing MP who can in fact organise a root in a brothel?