Has The Onion Crossed The Line?

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    Jul 27, 2008 10:35 AM GMT
    I think it's fun to satirize the news, government, politics - it's what makes us special. There are some places in the world that would kill people for making fun of their government.

    However, I think... this "The Onion" Joke is a bit too much. Death and Tragedy, especially on a broad scale, isn't something to be messed with. I wouldn't want to hear someone make jokes about Tiananmen Square, Pearl Harbor, or Hiroshima. I don't want to hear someone make jokes about September 11th either. It's rather inhumane for someone to consider mass tragic death the source of any humor.

    "9/11 Conspiracy Theories 'Ridiculous,' Al Qaeda Says"

    9/11 Conspiracy Theories 'Ridiculous,' Al Qaeda Says

    Just in case the video doesn't work:
    http://www.theonion.com/content/video/9_11_conspiracy_theories
  • ShawnTX

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    Jul 27, 2008 1:59 PM GMT
    Hehe, I'm sorry but I think it's funny.

    Has the Onion crossed the line? No, but like any good comedian they're pushing the limits...I mean, knock-knock jokes just don't have the same effect.

    They're not making fun of the 3000 people killed, they're making fun of the conspiracy theorists that believe the US government had something to do with those events. They're also making Al Qaeda look like pouting children on the verge of having a tantrum.

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    Jul 27, 2008 2:08 PM GMT
    I didnt even find it funny. Really banal to me. Ho Hum!
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    Jul 27, 2008 2:18 PM GMT
    I also find the Onion's segments honestly funny... but yeah when I realize the context of some of the jokes, it has a sobering effect.

    Still, as long as they are not making fun of the tragedy itself, I wouldn't say they crossed the line.
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    Jul 27, 2008 2:18 PM GMT
    Yawn....next banal thread....icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 27, 2008 2:29 PM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle saidThis reminds me of the movie "Otis" that I rented from Netflix the other day. It's a dark comedy about how a guy abducts young girls for his own deluded/insane motives. It makes a satire of murder and insanity and I found it so repelling. I thought it was a thriller at first.

    It made me think that this movie would be so offensive to parents who have had their children abducted only to never see them again...alive that is.

    That's where I'm coming from, the joke just didn't work for me.
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    Jul 27, 2008 3:49 PM GMT
    Sorry to disagree.

    I found the clip hilarious. As ShawnTX said, it makes Al Qaeda look like petulant children and makes the conspiracy theorists look like the obsessed morons they are. It's not often that you can hit two targets at once.

    And no, they were NOT making fun of the tragedy itself. I am not a fan of this notion that 9/11 is a taboo subject anyway.
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    Jul 27, 2008 4:00 PM GMT
    I'll grant that it's not very funny.
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    Jul 27, 2008 4:47 PM GMT
    It is un-American to protest The Onion. ;-)

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    "President Bush declares Jenna Bush's federally protected wetlands now open for public drilling."
  • Thirdbeach

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    Jul 27, 2008 5:44 PM GMT
    I think the clip is quite funny.

    And, don't forget it pokes fun at TV Newscast and their experts.

  • kinetic

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    Jul 27, 2008 5:45 PM GMT
    I effin luv the onion!
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    Jul 27, 2008 6:21 PM GMT
    I love the onion, am not offended by the sketch on principle, but still thought it was over obvious and not that well executed.
  • Delivis

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    Jul 27, 2008 6:22 PM GMT
    You must be joking. There is no "crossing the line" in comedy. A good chunk of comedy, of not the majority of it, comes from bringing levity to tragedy. To quote the master himself, even rape can be funny, "it all depends how you construct the joke, what the emphasis is".
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    Jul 27, 2008 6:43 PM GMT
    Hilarious!

    Crossed the line? Certainly not. This is textbook satire.

    I've seen plenty of examples, particularly in movies, of mean-spirited "humor" which I find detestable. There was nothing mean about this segment. It used absurdity to make a point, like all good satire.

    I loved the moment when the Al Qaeda guy catches himself almost revealing Bin Laden's location...
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    Jul 27, 2008 7:17 PM GMT
    BTW, there's "The Onion Movie" available from netflix. But I'm more a fan of "Kentucky Fried Movie," which did the same thing with more slapstick.
  • GQjock

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    Jul 27, 2008 9:12 PM GMT
    The Onion always teeters right on the edge that's what makes them so funny
    ... in this they make fun of all those looney conspiracy nutcases
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    Jul 27, 2008 9:25 PM GMT
    jprichva saidSorry to disagree.

    I found the clip hilarious. As ShawnTX said, it makes Al Qaeda look like petulant children and makes the conspiracy theorists look like the obsessed morons they are. It's not often that you can hit two targets at once.

    And no, they were NOT making fun of the tragedy itself. I am not a fan of this notion that 9/11 is a taboo subject anyway.


    I have to slightly agree. I thought it was sort of funny. And, yes it is making fun of the theorists and Al-Queda more than anything. I mean come on, the Bush administration isn't smart enough to cover this up, much less organize the event. I do think it's borderline, but I don't think it actually crosses the line.
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    Jul 27, 2008 9:45 PM GMT
    I don't see what line some say they are crossing.
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    Jul 28, 2008 1:09 PM GMT
    When it comes to interpersonal dialog, I hate the term "crossing the line". It's like the term "blasphemy", it means that you're not to discuss a subject at all, it means you have to accept the "Truth" determined by others.

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    Jul 28, 2008 1:33 PM GMT
    blind2limits saidDeath and Tragedy, especially on a broad scale, isn't something to be messed with. I wouldn't want to hear someone make jokes about Tiananmen Square, Pearl Harbor, or Hiroshima. I don't want to hear someone make jokes about September 11th either. It's rather inhumane for someone to consider mass tragic death the source of any humor.

    I dunno. We make jokes about "drinking the Kool-Aid", ignoring that it was the source of over 900 deaths. Jokes about other historical events are ok, even if they've resulted in mass death. So why are those subjects taboo?

    I didn't really think that the sketch was all that funny though. They tried to hard. Something much more understated would have worked better.

  • Jul 28, 2008 1:48 PM GMT
    I actually thought it was pretty funny. But then I find a lot of people just don't get satire. Hell, when Swift wrote "a modest proposal" there were riots. I did an opinion piece a few years ago where I suggested that we cure breast cancer by cutting off all little girl's breasts at birth. I was trying to make the point that Circumcision is a barbaric practice which we wouldn't even consider performing on a girl but was perfectly acceptable for a boy. The people who understood what I was saying really enjoyed the article, and the rest wanted my head.
  • swimbikerun

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    Sep 12, 2009 7:09 AM GMT
    Oh and no jerking off today, er yesterday. Cool, I'm gonna go whack off now!


    Americans Observing 9/11 By Trying Not To Masturbate
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:23 AM GMT
    what's the old saying . . . . tragedy plus time equals comedy?
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:53 AM GMT
    TheOnion is comedy gold.
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    Sep 14, 2009 4:16 AM GMT
    The Onion makes it lucrative business to cross the line. The thing is, there are usually two or three ways to look at their satire. So they get away with it.

    Here's my favorite:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/node/34777

    Mean. Clever. Only Onion.