Big Money Wins in Wisconsin: Walker Spent 88% of the Money to Get 53% of the Vote

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    Jun 06, 2012 3:52 PM GMT
    "But the real winner in Wisconsin on Tuesday was not Gov. Scott Walker, but Big Money. And the real loser was not Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, but democracy.
    Walker's Republican campaign outspent Barrett's Democratic campaign by $30.5 million to $4 million -- that's a 7.5 to 1 advantage. Another way of saying this is that of the $34.5 million spent on their campaigns, Walker spend 88% of the money."

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    Jun 06, 2012 3:54 PM GMT
    Dems lost the battle but not the war. Time to fight harder!
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    Jun 06, 2012 4:08 PM GMT
    I truly believe that money is a threat to our democracy. We need public financing of campaigns and overturning Citizens United.
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    Jun 06, 2012 4:38 PM GMT
    We need to prevent national unions from pouring in money like they did in Wisconsin to try to get a sitting Gov recalled. Both sides spent roughly the same amount on ads. Its just that Walkers ads were truthful and dealt with the concerns of the taxpayers. The union ads were false and very misleading.
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    Jun 06, 2012 4:58 PM GMT
    jock_1 saidWe need to prevent national unions from pouring in money like they did in Wisconsin to try to get a sitting Gov recalled. Both sides spent roughly the same amount on ads. Its just that Walkers ads were truthful and dealt with the concerns of the taxpayers. The union ads were false and very misleading.

    Additional points - Polls indicated the majority of people had made their minds up some time ago, so all the money spent during the last few weeks did not matter all that much. Second, after earlier polls indicated the recall would likely fail because people were satisfied with Walker's performance and dissatisfied with union tactics, DNC and other sources cut their losses and turned off the money. So any spending disparity was as much the result of the issues and not the cause of the election result.
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    Jun 06, 2012 5:05 PM GMT
    Now we are hearing about voter fraud in Racine, the only district the dems won...by 800 votes and where Walker won with 60%

    News comming out about votes being cast from homes that no longer exist, people getting in line to vote after polls closed, Illinois vans being paid $100 to take people to vote. Seems strange that the dems thought this was the only senate seat they could pick off.
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    Jun 06, 2012 5:35 PM GMT
    Caslon19000 saidI truly believe that money is a threat to our democracy. We need public financing of campaigns and overturning Citizens United.


    Except for when it comes from Soros, that's perfectly okay!
  • conservativej...

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    Jun 06, 2012 10:14 PM GMT
    What a wonderful use of cash. Actually the money spent there was a long-term gift to Wisconsin taxparers.

    Hey, what's a few hundred million here and there in November.
  • rioriz

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    Jun 06, 2012 10:19 PM GMT
    I hope the same sentiment is held in November when one candidate would have out raised and spent mote than the other....but prolly not
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    Jun 06, 2012 10:35 PM GMT
    rioriz saidI hope the same sentiment is held in November when one candidate would have out raised and spent mote than the other....but prolly not


    Well, on the Romney side I know two sources that have committed a total of $750 million. I suggest the Democrats get busier at raising money.
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    Jun 06, 2012 10:44 PM GMT
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    Caslon19000 saidI truly believe that money is a threat to our democracy. We need public financing of campaigns and overturning Citizens United.


    Except for when it comes from Soros, that's perfectly okay!


    Actually, a lot of us would prefer public financing full-stop. This year we're going to see billions spent on elections across the country. I'm sure that money could be better spent. Not to mention that I'm tired of the endless campaign with people who are supposedly working for us spending more than half their time raising money. It's certainly not what the founders envisioned.
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    Jun 06, 2012 11:01 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    mocktwinkie said
    Caslon19000 saidI truly believe that money is a threat to our democracy. We need public financing of campaigns and overturning Citizens United.


    Except for when it comes from Soros, that's perfectly okay!


    Actually, a lot of us would prefer public financing full-stop. This year we're going to see billions spent on elections across the country. I'm sure that money could be better spent. Not to mention that I'm tired of the endless campaign with people who are supposedly working for us spending more than half their time raising money. It's certainly not what the founders envisioned.


    It's just a necessary evil. You can't remove someone's right to give money to a cause...
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    Jun 06, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    Christian73 said
    mocktwinkie said
    Caslon19000 saidI truly believe that money is a threat to our democracy. We need public financing of campaigns and overturning Citizens United.


    Except for when it comes from Soros, that's perfectly okay!


    Actually, a lot of us would prefer public financing full-stop. This year we're going to see billions spent on elections across the country. I'm sure that money could be better spent. Not to mention that I'm tired of the endless campaign with people who are supposedly working for us spending more than half their time raising money. It's certainly not what the founders envisioned.


    It's just a necessary evil. You can't remove someone's right to give money to a cause...


    You're such a fucking hypocrite. You rail against unions support of Democrats but don't want public financing.

    There is no "right" to give money to a political candidate. That was have this system at all if the result of bad decisions by the Supreme Court in which money = speech.

    But money is not speech. It's money. And as we saw in Wisconsin, enough money will drown out the voices of those who cannot compete.

    And save your BS about equal spending because Walker outspent Barrett 10 to 1.
  • GQjock

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    Jun 06, 2012 11:50 PM GMT
    We as Gay Men should have seen this coming

    It's what happened in California with Prop 8
    You have a huge influx of outside money and it sways an election
    The republicans have bought and paid for democracy
    Thanx to the Roberts Court and the money that taints our country