Get Educated About Homosexuality!!

  • marined8

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    Jun 06, 2012 6:00 PM GMT


    Educational!

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    Jun 06, 2012 6:04 PM GMT
    At least Christians don't still hang us.
    We really have to focus all our hate on Islam....do i have to teach you guys how to do everything...jeez
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    Jun 06, 2012 11:05 PM GMT
    Is it true that gays are a result of a feminised foetus?
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    Jun 06, 2012 11:06 PM GMT
    cold saidIs it true that gays are a result of a feminised foetus?


    hmmm yep!
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    Jun 06, 2012 11:26 PM GMT
    "*wink* We're still gay!" HILARIOUS icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 06, 2012 11:28 PM GMT
    daviddoublebay saidFirstborn here. (and gay, if you hadn't guessed)

    I had never heard about birth order increasing chances of being gay.


    There are loads of studies on this. One was conducted on Norfolk a while back, because they have very accuarte records of their ancestry. Very interesting in that study to find homosexuals in a number of family's throughout the generations.
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    Jun 06, 2012 11:41 PM GMT
    Fifth of 5, just like in the video. Heard of the 'birth order' theory when I was struggling with my sexuality. My ex-wife showed me the article in the SF Chronicle. Hmmmm....maybe she knew more than I did! LOL
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    Jun 07, 2012 12:16 AM GMT
    I'm second of four boys, five children total with the girl being the youngest. As far as I can tell, I'm the only one of my siblings who doesn't actively chase skirts. So yeah... not feeling that theory. icon_neutral.gif

    I don't think it's a result of a feminized fetus. It it were, our body forms would actually be feminized. What I think is that our brains are more resistant to the effect testosterone is supposed to have when men hit puberty in propagating secondary male characteristics as well as creating an attraction for the opposite sex.
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    Jun 07, 2012 1:10 AM GMT
    I'm the second of three boys and I'm the only gay one.
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    Jun 07, 2012 1:21 AM GMT
    MarkRoger saidI'm the second of three boys and I'm the only gay one.


    Eldest of three. All gay.
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    Jun 07, 2012 1:22 AM GMT
    Oldest boy! 2 younger brothers.

    My theory: Older sons feel pressure to be "the man" and be sure that the family name is carried on and succumb to social pressures. Younger sons don't feel as pressured because their older brothers satisfy that pressure from the parents to have grandkids and carry on the name.

    I'm pretty stubborn and independent, so I was bound to be myself no matter pressures were placed on me. I came out at 16. Sixteen is pretty young to come out in the early 1990s. icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 07, 2012 1:34 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    MarkRoger saidI'm the second of three boys and I'm the only gay one.


    Eldest of three. All gay.


    Are you serious?? Did your parents have ONE straight kid?? I feel for them. LOL
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    Jun 07, 2012 1:41 AM GMT
    Twins! 70% of being gay together!

    Where did we put that "Twincest" thread????
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    Jun 07, 2012 1:45 AM GMT
    The rationale that just because it happens in nature that it is "ok" to extrapolate it as justification for human behavior and living is simply ludicrous. If you're trying to convince someone homosexuality is OK, DO NOT USE this line of argumentation.
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    Jun 07, 2012 1:48 AM GMT
    TerraFirma saidThe rationale that just because it happens in nature that it is "ok" to extrapolate it as justification for human behavior and living is simply ludicrous.

    Agreed and yet so many people accept 'natural' as 'good' without a second thought.
    TerraFirma saidIf you're trying to convince someone homosexuality is OK, DO NOT USE this line of argumentation.

    I think the video only did that as a rebuttal to the argument that homosexuality is unnatural.
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    Jun 07, 2012 2:04 AM GMT
    I think it only seems like the youngest is more frequently gay. My theory is that youngest children (I'm the youngest) tend to be the most rebellious. This doesn't mean we're more likely to be gay or lesbian, but it DOES mean we're more likely to be out.
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    Jun 07, 2012 2:11 AM GMT
    TerraFirma saidThe rationale that just because it happens in nature that it is "ok" to extrapolate it as justification for human behavior and living is simply ludicrous. If you're trying to convince someone homosexuality is OK, DO NOT USE this line of argumentation.


    I think this argument is just trying to say that homosexuality is natural in the sense that it is not a choice but rather something people are born with. Though I agree that this is not enough and you have to expand on the fact that homosexuals are not harmful to society but just wanted to clear it up.
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    Jun 07, 2012 2:26 AM GMT
    Being attracted to men and being effeminate are two completely things and they are not always mutually inclusive.
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    Jun 07, 2012 2:34 AM GMT
    charlitos saidBeing attracted to men and being effeminate are two completely things and they are not always mutually inclusive.


    Not always but majority of the time they are.
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    Jun 07, 2012 2:46 AM GMT
    Animus saidI'm second of four boys, five children total with the girl being the youngest. As far as I can tell, I'm the only one of my siblings who doesn't actively chase skirts. So yeah... not feeling that theory. icon_neutral.gif

    I don't think it's a result of a feminized fetus. It it were, our body forms would actually be feminized. What I think is that our brains are more resistant to the effect testosterone is supposed to have when men hit puberty in propagating secondary male characteristics as well as creating an attraction for the opposite sex.


    That theory isn't very valid as you can tell if a child is gay wayyyy before puberty
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    Jun 10, 2012 1:24 AM GMT
    Rockbiter saidOldest boy! 2 younger brothers.

    My theory: Older sons feel pressure to be "the man" and be sure that the family name is carried on and succumb to social pressures. Younger sons don't feel as pressured because their older brothers satisfy that pressure from the parents to have grandkids and carry on the name.

    I'm pretty stubborn and independent, so I was bound to be myself no matter pressures were placed on me. I came out at 16. Sixteen is pretty young to come out in the early 1990s. icon_smile.gif


    I understand what you mean, I being the first son of the first son, it was meant to be my responsibility to give the next generation of sons, but I was out a 6 in the 1960s and that was brave, not to mention young too, but I too can be mighty stubborn too.

    Oh and I never did breed and produce any sons, that was left to my bisexual brother to do that, because as much as a man as he likes to think himself, he has never been as brave as I; because he hides behind women and children.
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    Jun 10, 2012 1:29 AM GMT
    Are people actually arguing against this lmao
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    Jun 10, 2012 1:34 AM GMT
    marined8 said

    Educational!



    I saw this video a year ago, but I'm glad you posted this video now, because now I'm going to try to get my mother to view this lol, but I'm still not sure if it will change her views, but hey it's worth a shot.
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    Jun 10, 2012 1:45 AM GMT
    "we're still gay!"

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    Jun 10, 2012 1:45 AM GMT
    Sigh.

    Yet another myopic presentation of homosexuality. Does it really have to be one or the other? Nature or nurture? "Are you born this way?" or "Is it a choice?"

    So researchers are looking at genes, hormones and birth order to determine the "causes" of homosexuality? What about cultural notions of gender and sexuality? Forms of sexual expression change through time - It's obviously a much more complicated picture, and I doubt that we could ever really determine where biology ends and social learning begins.

    It's no surprise that scientists have been trying to figure this out for the last 100 years to no avail. I think we can talk about this philosophically all we want - but trying to "educate" others by using such simplistic means can do more harm than good.