South Africa: ‘My son was torched for being gay’

  • metta

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    Jun 07, 2012 2:28 PM GMT
    ‘My son was torched for being gay’

    http://www.thepost.co.za/my-son-was-torched-for-being-gay-1.1312895#.T9C5OdVYtBD
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    Jun 07, 2012 10:10 PM GMT
    What to say really....except the people who did that deserve to be in a Nazi style death camp where they will be starved and tortured until they die.
  • Suetonius

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    Jun 11, 2012 8:25 PM GMT
    Unfortunately, many [edit] blacks in South Africa are still pretty much barbarians. It is a very widely held belief (and practice) there, that if one rapes a virgin girl, he will cured of Aids. Thus many thousands of child rapes there annually, which are pretty much never prosecuted.
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    Jun 11, 2012 10:39 PM GMT
    that's horrifc.
    some people really are barbaric
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    Jun 11, 2012 10:41 PM GMT
    Between cases like this and serial killers targeting gay men; I have my reservations about dating here in my home country. icon_sad.gif
  • jgymnast733

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    Jun 11, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
    Suetonius saidUnfortunatley, the blacks in South Africa are still pretty much barbarians. It is a very widely held belief (and practice) there, that if one rapes a virgin girl, he will cured of Aids. Thus many thousands of child rapes there annually, which are pretty much never prosecuted.

    DISAGREE...!!!!!!!!!
    The blacks i know living in South Africa are not barbarians, no more barbarian than europeans... This crazy crime could've happend anywhere..
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    Jun 11, 2012 11:52 PM GMT
    jgymnast733 said
    Suetonius saidUnfortunatley, the blacks in South Africa are still pretty much barbarians. It is a very widely held belief (and practice) there, that if one rapes a virgin girl, he will cured of Aids. Thus many thousands of child rapes there annually, which are pretty much never prosecuted.

    DISAGREE...!!!!!!!!!
    The blacks i know living in South Africa are not barbarians, no more barbarian than europeans... This crazy crime could've happend anywhere..



    Wow yeah, he is acting as if it is a black thing... I wonder if he knows about all the "barbaric" practices of Asia ?
  • Karl

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    Jun 11, 2012 11:57 PM GMT
    oh my..... icon_sad.gif
    that's cruel.
    I feel sorry for that man. icon_sad.gif
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    Jun 12, 2012 1:12 AM GMT
    It's horrific. But it doesn't stop there. The shortlist of places being gay is a crime punishable by death: http://www.ranker.com/list/7-worst-capital-punishments-for-being-_illegally_-gay/joanne

    What's worse, the idea that list could get longer: http://www.care2.com/causes/ugandan-catholics-want-kill-gays-bill-revived.html

    The topper, Abiding Truth Ministries President Scott Lively. The bill's co proponent right here in the US. http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/newsarchives.php?id=4480922

    The list of crime committed in the name of God marches on. One has to wonder how it is such people find a voice. Baffling that here in the year 2012 such criminal minds have no problem finding an army of lemmings to endorse and support such hatred, and still go to sleep at night confident "Good Christians".

    In Michigan along I-275 there used to stand a billboard that read "God is coming... and BOY is he pissed.

    The tragic part is that these would be "Children of God" actually STILL believe gays are on the shortlist of reasons "God" is pissed.
  • Suetonius

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    Jun 12, 2012 4:46 AM GMT
    GreenHopper said
    jgymnast733 said
    Suetonius saidUnfortunatley, the blacks in South Africa are still pretty much barbarians. It is a very widely held belief (and practice) there, that if one rapes a virgin girl, he will cured of Aids. Thus many thousands of child rapes there annually, which are pretty much never prosecuted.

    DISAGREE...!!!!!!!!!
    The blacks i know living in South Africa are not barbarians, no more barbarian than europeans... This crazy crime could've happend anywhere..



    Wow yeah, he is acting as if it is a black thing... I wonder if he knows about all the "barbaric" practices of Asia ?

    I don't know "all" of the barbaric practices of Asia, but am aware of a number. And I should not have said "blacks," but "many blacks."

    The hatred for homosexuals in Africa, is pretty much a "black thing." To experience this hatred, just try going to Uganda, and making out on the street with a guy. But the burning to death of whomever in South Africa is definitely only a "black thing." And it is not "coloreds," Afrikaners, or English that do this - only blacks. Before the ANC won the war for independence, the fight between Zulus and ANC (both black) many times involved burning a victim alive. The practice was so common it got its own name, "necklacing," from the means of soaking a tire in petrol, putting it around the neck of the victim, and setting him or her on fire. This was (and is) a crime committed only by blacks. They had a tradition of burning alive undesirables, normally those accused of witchcraft or "sorcery," but also sodomy. And we're not talking about in the 16th century, but in the 1970's and 1980's. More recently, black South Africans have adopted the practice of burning Zimbabwean immigrants with the tire necklace, to discourage their illegal immigration. This is certainly not the first time it was done because the victim was a homosexual. Greenhopper and Jgymnast may not find this practice barbaric, (just an unpleasant aspect of traditional culture perhaps?) but I would venture that most of the civilized world would find it barbaric.

    As to child rape to in order to cure Aids - it really is a South African practice - and done only by black South Africans. 200,000 girls, (including some infants, like 9 months old) are raped by black men in S. Africa each year. 25% of South African black men have admitted to having raped someone, and most of them admit to multiple rapes. Perhaps you guys see that as just another quaint tribal custom, but I view it as barbaric. Even the President was accused of rape, and the woman of course got no justice.

    If you care to read further on these interesting tribal customs, see:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/17/south-africa-rape-survey
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/south-africas-shame-the-rise-of-child-rape-1974578.html
    http://www.wnd.com/2001/12/12139/
    http://www.rense.com/general56/RAPES.HTM



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    Jun 12, 2012 5:07 AM GMT
    what a terrible story. its sad. yes, this could have happened anywhere in the world, and there are plenty of stories of hate crimes and general violence in north america, south america, europe, south asia, east asia. however, there have been many recent cases of violence (including serial murders) against gay people in SA. i hate to say this but SA has a history of being a somewhat more violent place in general, owing to the massive discrepancies in wealth, power, education, access, and the general availability of guns and other weapons. i love the place but it has its share of problems, and all of my South African friends have some personal experience with violent crime. no one is immune to it - regardless of colour. sad, but true.
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    Jun 12, 2012 5:23 AM GMT
    This is BEYOND tragic. I hope he at least died quickly from the stabwound. This reminds me of the end of Brokeback Mountain a bit. Really horrible. I hope they find those goons and do the same.