Will I go directly hell when I die since I like to have sex with other men?

  • jack191

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    Jul 28, 2008 5:47 AM GMT
    My straight friend was telling me over the phone that all gays who have sex with other men will go directly to hell when they die. Idk if this is true or not though... So plz give me some more info on this.
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    Jul 28, 2008 5:53 AM GMT

    That's very cruel when it comes from a friend. Probably thinks he's helping you.

    Since no-one has come back AND given the answer to that, it's between you and your Maker. No one else.

    You need to explore some of the previous topics regarding religion. They're eye-openers.
  • ShawnTX

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    Jul 28, 2008 5:57 AM GMT
    Exactly what sort of info are you looking for? There's no proof or evidence of this. Are you looking for bible quotes?

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    Jul 28, 2008 6:13 AM GMT
    jack191 saidMy straight friend was telling me over the phone that all gays who have sex with other men will go directly to hell when they die. Idk if this is true or not though... So plz give me some more info on this.


    You will not go to hell as long as you have sex with me. I worked out a deal with Jesus. We're tight n shit.
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    Jul 28, 2008 6:14 AM GMT
    "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." - Leviticus 18:22

    A lot of what your friend is trying to tell you and any other kind of homo bashing from religion came from this quote. As you can see, this is really REALLY vague, so your friend doesn't really have any proof that all gays will go to hell. And besides, this same book says that you'll go straight to hell for eating shellfish (wtf?) icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    Hell is probably a lot more fun anyways.
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    Jul 28, 2008 6:19 AM GMT
    It sounds like you could there now if this and anything else he says is torturing you.

    I'm not going to hell,simply because I don't believe in its existence.
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    Jul 28, 2008 6:20 AM GMT
    jakebenson said
    jack191 saidMy straight friend was telling me over the phone that all gays who have sex with other men will go directly to hell when they die. Idk if this is true or not though... So plz give me some more info on this.


    You will not go to hell as long as you have sex with me. I worked out a deal with Jesus. We're tight n shit.


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    Jul 28, 2008 7:08 AM GMT
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    Jul 28, 2008 7:12 AM GMT
    no, it isn't true, from a theological perspective. the bible says all will wait for judgement. no one is in hell yet (or heaven for that matter), not even satan. your friend needs to learn more about his religion before he tries to use it as a weapon.

    instant heaven/hell is an invention of the catholic church that didn't come about until the middle ages or later. they needed a way to control people better. instant punishment was far scarier than waiting for jesus to come back and go to the trouble of opening the gates of hell and casting satan into the lake of fire.

    you really should convert to paganism. we have a whole path just for gay men called "the way of the green man." in it your entire identity and sexuality are both celebrated and empowered.

    so.

    tell your friend to go to hell (once it's open for business - he can make a reservation with jesus to make sure he gets his spot before everyone else). also i'm not sure you should worry too much about the opinion of jesus if he's he's unpleasant enough to be tight 'n shit with jakebenson.
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:36 AM GMT
    dancerjack saidyou really should convert to paganism. we have a whole path just for gay men called "the way of the green man." in it your entire identity and sexuality are both celebrated and empowered.

    Does paganism equal wicca?

    I looked up the book: "The Path of the Green Man: Gay Men, Wicca and Living a Magical Life"
  • GQjock

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    Jul 28, 2008 10:37 AM GMT
    Wow jack...
    When it comes to friends you sure know how to pick'em
    If you wanna believe that a man in the sky
    wants to put You in Hell because you know in your heart that you love men and He made you that way fine
    But remember that this same man in the sky book strangely enough forbids divorce but do you see anyone rushing to get back together?

    Some reading... for your so called "friend"
    http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html

    http://www.bidstrup.com/bible2.htm

    http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2007/penn-teller-bible-p1.php
  • qalbi30

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    Jul 28, 2008 11:07 AM GMT
    Jack,believe me.that so called friend is no real friend to you !

    Tell him to go to Hell,and if he can find proof to bring it back.

    Love , not lust is the best of all human feelings and when we have love in our hearts who shall tell us who we should love.
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    Jul 28, 2008 12:22 PM GMT
    I have this constant argument...

    You're gay you're going to hell!
    -I don't believe in the concept of a hell...

    Well it says so in the bible that anyone who is homosexual will end up in the 7th level of hell being burned in fire for eternity etc...etc...
    -First of all that's all references to Dante's inferno and popular culture rather than the bible, secondly it doesn't matter how horrible the concept of hell is if i don't believe it exists...

    But aren't you afraid of this terrible punishment...
    -No I believe hell is a fictional concept so the prospect of going there dose not scare me in the slightest.


    Why do people fail to understand why someone isn't scared by something they don't believe exists.

    Do Christan's believe they are truly enlightened and ministering to child like people unable to distinguish between real and surreal and not allow fear alone influence their state of mind
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    Jul 28, 2008 12:30 PM GMT
    There is a cartoon on http://www.edkrebs.com/herb/petoons40/index.htm

    Last picture sums it up. If they quote old testament and say jesus scrapped the old laws and they do not apply and still quote old testament that gay is abomination, then they are crazy.icon_eek.gif

    Also jesus (if such as person exisited) never mentioned about homosexuality. At all. It is only when Paul converted he started saying homosexuality is evil.

    Therefore, if jesus was god or messiah and didn't mention homosexuality. But Paul a jew (who hated christians) converted into Christian (who hated jews), kept mentioning this, either jesus as a messiah forgot to keep that levicitus law or didn't bother with the pagan orgies or didn't exist. Paul wrote against homosexuality because of the 'pagans' and other B.S reasons.

    So whose whose word thrumps who? Jesus or Paul?

    Oh if you'd like to hear what other religions say about it and want to see if you are going to their hell instead let me know, I'll do another post!!


    I think the would would be a better place if we all acted like bonobo chimps (except the incest). Anyone up for penis fencing? Humans are more like bonobo chimps in sexual pleasures but only humans have a religion to say how and who to shag.
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    Jul 28, 2008 2:18 PM GMT
    jakebenson said
    jack191 saidMy straight friend was telling me over the phone that all gays who have sex with other men will go directly to hell when they die. Idk if this is true or not though... So plz give me some more info on this.


    You will not go to hell as long as you have sex with me. I worked out a deal with Jesus. We're tight n shit.


    Dayum, homie. You got connections! Send in a word for me, okay? Tellim, I need a boyfriend.

    bujutsu_deshiI think the would would be a better place if we all acted like bonobo chimps (except the incest). Anyone up for penis fencing? Humans are more like bonobo chimps in sexual pleasures but only humans have a religion to say how and who to shag.


    Funny thing too. Bonobo chimps don't go to church, are they gonna go to hell? icon_wink.gif
  • dfrourke

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    Jul 28, 2008 3:24 PM GMT
    I don't think you go DIRECTLY to hell...I think you stop off at Barney's first to pick out an appropriate outfit...



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    Jul 28, 2008 3:27 PM GMT
    I don't believe such a place exists so when someone tells me this I shrug my shoulders and reply "that is nice" then walk away.

    Life is short, so ignorant, ill-informed opinions should be taken for what they are worth, which is a great big fat ZERO. icon_mad.gif
  • TexanMan82

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    Jul 28, 2008 3:51 PM GMT
    jack191 saidMy straight friend was telling me over the phone that all gays who have sex with other men will go directly to hell when they die. Idk if this is true or not though... So plz give me some more info on this.


    Yes, probably. But, think of this way; If all the gays are going to hell, it's going to be a huge party. Just think of how fabulous hell will be.
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    Jul 28, 2008 3:55 PM GMT
    you'll prolly go to hell for a myriad of things hahahaa... we all will!!

    j/k... no one really knows who'll make it to heaven and who'll be damned to hell... even those bible thumpers aren't guaranteed access beyond the pearly gates.
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    jack191 saidMy straight friend was telling me over the phone that all gays who have sex with other men will go directly to hell when they die. Idk if this is true or not though... So plz give me some more info on this.


    Yes, probably. But, think of this way; If all the gays are going to hell, it's going to be a huge party. Just think of how fabulous hell will be.


    And on the other hand. think of all the goody-two-shoes religious nuts going to heaven. If you ever fell asleep in church, you better hope Heaven has comfortable pews. It's gonna be a helluva long sermon... eternal actually.
  • TexanMan82

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    Jul 28, 2008 4:16 PM GMT
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    TexanMan82 said
    jack191 saidMy straight friend was telling me over the phone that all gays who have sex with other men will go directly to hell when they die. Idk if this is true or not though... So plz give me some more info on this.


    Yes, probably. But, think of this way; If all the gays are going to hell, it's going to be a huge party. Just think of how fabulous hell will be.


    And on the other hand. think of all the goody-two-shoes religious nuts going to heaven. If you ever fell asleep in church, you better hope Heaven has comfortable pews. It's gonna be a helluva long sermon... eternal actually.


    "Heaven for the climate, hell for the company"

    -Mark Twain
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    Jul 28, 2008 4:49 PM GMT
    dfrourke saidI don't think you go DIRECTLY to hell...I think you stop off at Barney's first to pick out an appropriate outfit...



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    I went to get this clip off youtube but you beat me to it.
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    TexanMan82 said
    jack191 saidMy straight friend was telling me over the phone that all gays who have sex with other men will go directly to hell when they die. Idk if this is true or not though... So plz give me some more info on this.


    Yes, probably. But, think of this way; If all the gays are going to hell, it's going to be a huge party. Just think of how fabulous hell will be.




    Amen to that
  • GQjock

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    Jul 29, 2008 10:41 AM GMT
    So you think You're going to Hell and the people like Jesse Helms and Pat Robertson who spread hatred around for decades aren't?

    The so-called Heathens who lived for centuries in harmony without knowing who the hell Jesus double H hockey sticks
    was all went to hell and the majority of the Missionaries who knowingly spread lies and diseases ... obliterating whole civilizations in the process aren't?

    If you answered yes to any of those questions
    I gotta hand it to ya... You got some winner of a god
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    Jul 29, 2008 11:06 AM GMT
    dfrourke saidI don't think you go DIRECTLY to hell...I think you stop off at Barney's first to pick out an appropriate outfit...



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    Awwwwww, that's just so cute.