Minnesota gay marriage vote divides clergy

  • metta

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    Jun 10, 2012 1:41 AM GMT
    Minnesota gay marriage vote divides clergy

    "This Sunday, a group of Catholic churchgoers opposed to the amendment are kicking off the “Catholics Vote NO!” campaign, flying in the face of the church’s local hierarchy, which supports the measure."

    "Among the latter was the Rev. Kelly Chatman, lead pastor of Redeemer Lutheran Church in Minneapolis. He took a public stand against the amendment, he said Friday, “because I don’t want that other voice to be the only voice, I don’t want same-sex people to see all churches that way.

    “I’m doing this because it’s important people see a pastor who believes that God is loving to everybody.”

    "Minnesota’s Catholic dioceses have lent more than rhetorical firepower to the debate: the Catholic Conference’s Marriage Defense Fund reported $750,000 in contributions to pro-amendment efforts as of the end of January, with more donations likely."

    As long as they upper hierarchy can make money on hate they will keep pushing hate.


    http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/363629/
  • tazzari

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    Jun 10, 2012 1:57 AM GMT
    Our church is in the middle of the search process for a new pastor. It was the unanimous decision of the congregation and vestry some time ago that we are Open and Affirming. It was the unanimous decision of the vestry that we needed gay people on the search committee. And it was the unanimous decision of the search committee that if an interviewee would not happily perform a same-sex marriage, that person was immediately disqualified.

    So far, only one person has said he wouldn't, and that person said he'd make the church available for someone else to perform such a marriage.

    So much for claims that churches and Christians oppose same-sex marriage equality, or that the fundamentalists speak for all Christians. It just isn't so, though they tend to be the ones that make the most noise... (Maybe the rest of us are too busy getting out there and feeding the hungry, providing housing, welcoming in the outcast, etc. to be able to spare the time for so much fear and fervor... )

    We will have a strong contingent in the Seattle Pride Parade, among at least 25 other churches who want to take a stand for marriage equality.
  • metta

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    Jun 10, 2012 5:01 AM GMT
    ^
    good to hear. thanks for sharing that. icon_smile.gif
  • Koaa2

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    Jun 10, 2012 11:23 AM GMT
    Yes, it is to bad, the "good" churches aren't out there more. The only ones we here from are those of the "Chief Pedophile"(Pope).
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    Jun 10, 2012 11:41 AM GMT
    Clergy in general make me sick. Nothing but a bunch of nasty ass hypocrites.
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    Jun 10, 2012 7:57 PM GMT
    Just as I thought - the Catholic church is coming undone at the seams over this issue.

    They've grown increasingly...wishy-washy on this subject for quite some time now. Only 40 years ago (tiny number in comparison to the history of the Church) it was absolutely forbidden to be a homosexual. The Church will change because it has to change. It will only be sometime before the clergy becomes totally one sided when the older generation dies off and the younger ones say that they aren't going to give money to an organization like this.
  • Cutlass

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    Jun 11, 2012 12:50 AM GMT
    IceBucket saidJust as I thought - the Catholic church is coming undone at the seams over this issue.

    They've grown increasingly...wishy-washy on this subject for quite some time now. Only 40 years ago (tiny number in comparison to the history of the Church) it was absolutely forbidden to be a homosexual. The Church will change because it has to change. It will only be sometime before the clergy becomes totally one sided when the older generation dies off and the younger ones say that they aren't going to give money to an organization like this.


    Yes, if the members don't give money to the r.c church but stay away or leave by the thousands as well, the church's anti-gay agenda would fall flat on its face.