I want to move my business from NYC to California

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    Jun 10, 2012 3:09 AM GMT
    I own a bottled tea business. Very small but growing in Brooklyn, NY.

    For my tea business to be a success and grow I need to move to the west coast. It will be much cheaper.
    NYC makes it almost impossible. I am licensed but the way this city works is you have to have money to make money.

    To really expand, I need room to breathe and there's no room to breathe in NYC.

    So, anyone in CA looking to get into a brilliant business partnership? icon_smile.gif

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    Jun 10, 2012 3:20 AM GMT
    jjexplored saidI own a bottled tea business. Very small but growing in Brooklyn, NY.

    For my tea business to be a success and grow I need to move to the west coast. It will be much cheaper.
    NYC makes it almost impossible. I am licensed but the way this city works is you have to have money to make money.

    To really expand, I need room to breathe and there's no room to breathe in NYC.

    So, anyone in CA looking to get into a brilliant business partnership? icon_smile.gif



    It's probably easier and less expensive to do business in Oregon or Washington State rather than in California. California probably makes New York appear "regulation-free".

    I just incorporated a not-for-profit educational and research foundation and I did it in Florida even though I'm living in California.
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    Jun 10, 2012 4:50 AM GMT
    If you're a one-man show, I think you can make it here. But if you have employees, a warehouse, and other overhead.. forget it. It's pretty expensive running a business out here.
  • Webster666

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    Jun 10, 2012 5:25 AM GMT
    It all depends on where you set up the business, in California.
    It's such a huge state, that it has a lot of wildly diverse areas.
    I'm talking about weather, cost of living, cultures, liberal vs. conservative, and on and on.
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    Jun 10, 2012 6:31 AM GMT
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    Jun 10, 2012 7:47 AM GMT
    You don't want to go into a labor based manufacturing business in California.
    You relocate here for intellectual talent and manufacture elsewhere. Read the back of your IPhone.
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    Jun 10, 2012 10:20 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidIt all depends on where you set up the business, in California.
    It's such a huge state, that it has a lot of wildly diverse areas.
    I'm talking about weather, cost of living, cultures, liberal vs. conservative, and on and on.


    in my mind, california is really a country on its own
  • Koaa2

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    Jun 10, 2012 11:15 AM GMT
    GreenHopper said
    Webster666 saidIt all depends on where you set up the business, in California.
    It's such a huge state, that it has a lot of wildly diverse areas.
    I'm talking about weather, cost of living, cultures, liberal vs. conservative, and on and on.


    in my mind, california is really a country on its own


    You got that right, and with all its problems a good one at that!
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    Jun 10, 2012 12:44 PM GMT
    Be sure not set up within the boundaries of LA or SF. The business license taxes are exorbitant and the civil servants are dicks to deal with.
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    Jun 10, 2012 12:55 PM GMT
    Your looking for business partners on RealJock? icon_neutral.gif
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    Jun 10, 2012 1:16 PM GMT
    Sounds like this should have a different title, "desperate business seeks investor in new, possibly better, location."

    I'd agree with some of the others, California is a terrible place to open, start and move an existing business, especially with the current debt troubles. Oregon is a good state. I'd steer away from Washington until the election.

    Then again, I thought Brooklyn was one of the "coolest places on Earth" or at least that is what all those trendy people keep telling themselves when they sign those leases for crappy apartments in terrible buildings for thousands of dollars a month for 500 square feet with no view of anything except the little green patch of grass where the fat lady lets her ugly dog poop. Yeah, keep your great tea brewing business in Brooklyn.
  • dantoujours

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    Jun 10, 2012 1:39 PM GMT
    I live in Brooklyn and still think it's one of the coolest places on earth. The art, architecture, diversity, energy, talent and creativity more than compensate for the small, expensive apartments (and that population density actually helps create the energy.) I am a 10 minute walk from several art galleries. There are 3 community based opera companies in my neighbourhood alone. There are several theatre companies in the area. And there are (without exaggeration) about 50 restaurants of every kind of food imaginable within a 10 minute walk from my house. It's family friendly and extremely gay friendly. I don't need a car. I can walk everywhere. I bike to work over the Brooklyn Bridge to the West Village everyday and it helps keep me healthy. (New Yorkers are noticeably thinner than the rest of the country for a reason.)

    I have lived in places where there is plenty of green grass for a dog to poop and found it bland and boring. Chain restaurants. Chain bookstores. Chain big box stores. Chain everything. The ranch-style and McMansion homes, the strip malls, the architecture, the clothes - are all the same. It's Generica. *Yawn*

    The reason why Brooklyn is so expensive is that so many people want to live here.

    All that said, I would imagine it's hard to establish a factory style business here because of the cost of land and buildings. But if you want to start a bottled tea business, don't just consider the cost of a factory, but the cost and ease of getting your products to market. Most of the places on the west coast that will make it easy to advertise, market and transport your tea are almost as expensive as NYC. The cheaper parts of the west coast tend to be far removed from easy access to the people you'd want to sell to - outer suburbia or rural areas.

    Perhaps you should consider other parts of the country.
  • araphael

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    Jun 13, 2012 3:16 AM GMT
    I grew up for a significant portion of my youth in California and it was awesome! I live in Texas now, quite a different vibe and culture. But I say do it bro. You'll probably love it.
  • camfer

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    Jun 13, 2012 3:44 AM GMT
    NYC is expensive but gives you access to a huge market. So that's the trade off.

    Maybe the next step in your expansion is a business incubator. You rent a commercial kitchen by the hour and make your product. They can also assist you with financing pointers when that's the next step. There's plenty of incubators in Brooklyn and NYC.

    Go to culinaryincubator.com and search in your state or in the state you want to go next.

    But you probably know all this already.
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    Jun 13, 2012 3:46 AM GMT
    West Palm Beach or Boca Raton would love your business icon_cool.gif
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    Jun 13, 2012 3:47 AM GMT
    jjexplored saidI own a bottled tea business. Very small but growing in Brooklyn, NY.

    For my tea business to be a success and grow I need to move to the west coast. It will be much cheaper.
    NYC makes it almost impossible. I am licensed but the way this city works is you have to have money to make money.

    To really expand, I need room to breathe and there's no room to breathe in NYC.

    So, anyone in CA looking to get into a brilliant business partnership? icon_smile.gif

    You make your own kombucha?
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    Jun 15, 2012 10:03 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]smartmoney said[/cite]Sounds like this should have a different title, "desperate business seeks investor in new, possibly better, location."

    This is pretty much what I am asking.

    Of course, I wrote this post initially in a hugely frustrated state of mind. It was really to only vent. And maybe put it out there in case some investor was scrolling through these forums.

    All of the replies have been helpful. I have a 10 year plan set up that would put me on both coasts in multiple industries. Brooklyn and the greater NYC area definitely has it's benefits.

    When I do get that one investor who sees the brilliance and dollar signs with my whole company or just a branch of it, wherever I am at it will be so much easier to manage.

    The good thing is that since I established my business it has only grown. I'm not yet profitable but I'm not in extreme debt either. I'm creating a new niche' within the ready-to-drink tea industry.

    Thanks again for all of your replies. BTW- my gourmet tea brand is Dirty Tea™.