Miami Herald: Stopped voter purge reveals at least 4 non citizens might have voted

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    Jun 10, 2012 7:46 AM GMT
    Note that the purge was stopped before it could be continued. And that in the past there have been voters in Florida who have committed fraud by voting for their dead relatives (http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies633_keaton.htm). Why is it that liberals insist it is so unreasonable to have verification of the identities of voters when it's required to enter a bar or to buy a firearm? Or heck, to vote in Democratic primaries?

    http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2012/06/09/florida-voter-purge-reveals-noncitizens-who-voted/

    About 40 people statewide have been identified as noncitizens. At least four might have voted and could be guilty of a third-degree felony.
  • Koaa2

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    Jun 10, 2012 11:53 AM GMT
    It is a well known fact that the Republican party is out there trying to stop as many voters as possbile from voting in this coming election. The misinformation that keeps being being put out by Republican Party is amazing. Big business=Republicans, so the same people who support them are the ones that are amazinly being kicked in the teeth.
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    Jun 10, 2012 12:23 PM GMT
    Koaa2 saidIt is a well known fact that the Republican party is out there trying to stop as many voters as possbile from voting in this coming election. The misinformation that keeps being being put out by Republican Party is amazing. Big business=Republicans, so the same people who support them are the ones that are amazinly being kicked in the teeth.


    And the bigger irony is that those Democrats say should be supporting them out of self interest are those who have been most hurt by the economic policies they've enacted - it's why ads like these have been so effective - because they are *true* as opposed to the rhetoric spouted by Democrats and their acolytes:



    All the while Democrats seem to want to ensure that any potential voter fraud is maximized by avoiding photo ID for voters on election day. The same sensible levels of ID required for anything from buying alcohol to buying a firearm.

    Further, the reality is that policies enacted by the Democrats have only served to enable *connected* big business - like their green energy policies, healthcare (there'a a reason they got the support of the insurance industry), financial services (even bigger than before), and autos to name the obvious. It is because of Democrats that firms like GE not only do not pay taxes but get billions of handouts and tax refunds from government.

    There *are* some Republicans who are for big business, but they're largely for smaller government which is far from the same thing.
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    Jun 10, 2012 1:18 PM GMT
    If the republicans want to purge dead voters off the rolls, the democrats should demand that they rolls get purged of brain dead voters, which would certainly remove a vast majority of republican voters nationwide.
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    Jun 10, 2012 1:22 PM GMT
    smartmoney saidIf the republicans want to purge dead voters off the rolls, the democrats should demand that they rolls get purged of brain dead voters, which would certainly remove a vast majority of republican voters nationwide.

    Amusing how you take opposite political positions in different threads. That and your Wisconsin comments indicate only a troll. But along the lines of the Democratic brain dead retort to their coddling of dead voters, it would be interesting to see the results of elections if literacy tests were instituted. Don't think the Dems would do too well.
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    Jun 10, 2012 2:47 PM GMT
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    smartmoney saidIf the republicans want to purge dead voters off the rolls, the democrats should demand that they rolls get purged of brain dead voters, which would certainly remove a vast majority of republican voters nationwide.

    Amusing how you take opposite political positions in different threads. That and your Wisconsin comments indicate only a troll. But along the lines of the Democratic brain dead retort to their coddling of dead voters, it would be interesting to see the results of elections if literacy tests were instituted. Don't think the Dems would do too well.
    Whatsamatter John.. Just because he(or anyone else for that matter) isnt in "lockstep" to the GOP like you are, they must be a troll or condemned? Yeah John, that's why you HATE my posts so bad!
    Common sense or actual 'thought' doesn't jive with your nazi 'lock step' with the GOP.. and you just hate that dont ya?lockstep1.jpg
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 10, 2012 5:05 PM GMT
    I just don't get it. If someone does not have proper ID or documentation, they should not get to vote -- period. Why is this a problem anywhere in the USA?
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    Jun 10, 2012 5:34 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI just don't get it. If someone does not have proper ID or documentation, they should not get to vote -- period. Why is this a problem anywhere in the USA?

    It is a problem for those who want the opportunity to cast illegal ballots. More cases of voter registration fraud have been identified than actual voter fraud, so the Democrats make that point to indicate there is no problem. Fact is it is much harder to catch actual voter fraud than voter registration fraud. Given that the entire purpose of fraudulently registering is to enable fraudulent voting, either should be taken seriously.

    It is interesting that the Dept of Justice has become the most politicized since John Mitchell during the Nixon administration. Given that Nixon and Obama both maintain enemies lists, there are probably more similarities between the two administration than meets the eye.

    I suspect during the next administration, the actions of Justice and Holder will be investigated. Holder might get out of some charges of perjury by conveniently forgetting the facts, but he as likely still perjured himself. There won't be any pardons, and seeing him hauled off to the prison system in an orange jumpsuit and chains would be true justice, while a cleaned up Justice Dept will enforce the laws instead of obstructing enforcement.
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    Jun 10, 2012 5:44 PM GMT
    wow, 40 out of over 11 MILLION registered voters in FL. i can see how that really impacts the vote.
  • KissTheSky

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    Jun 10, 2012 5:44 PM GMT
    Many people don't have drivers licenses because they don't have cars.
    People who live in big cities or the elderly often do not want or need to drive.
    Also many low-income people don't have cars.
    Tying voting to drivers licenses is an effort BY REPUBLICANS to prevent votes by American citizens who don't vote Republican, plain and simple.

    Show me in the Constitution where it says you have to have a photo ID to vote? (Answer: nowhere.)

    I also find it interesting that at tax time, the government wants the money of every breathing person in the country -- but somehow when you're writing them a big check they don't need to see any ID at all. Now isn't that strange? icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 10, 2012 5:50 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidNote that the purge was stopped before it could be continued. And that in the past there have been voters in Florida who have committed fraud by voting for their dead relatives (http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies633_keaton.htm). Why is it that liberals insist it is so unreasonable to have verification of the identities of voters when it's required to enter a bar or to buy a firearm? Or heck, to vote in Democratic primaries?

    http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2012/06/09/florida-voter-purge-reveals-noncitizens-who-voted/

    About 40 people statewide have been identified as noncitizens. At least four might have voted and could be guilty of a third-degree felony.


    In of a state of 19 million people, four people who were not supposed to vote MAY have voted. Or they may not have.
    Wow, you've really uncovered the story of the century.
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    Jun 10, 2012 5:59 PM GMT
    BTW - States with voter ID laws will provide an ID for free and in at least one state, will have teams that can go to residences for those who cannot travel. So the objections about disenfranchising voters are BS.
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    Jun 10, 2012 7:27 PM GMT
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    riddler78 saidNote that the purge was stopped before it could be continued. And that in the past there have been voters in Florida who have committed fraud by voting for their dead relatives (http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies633_keaton.htm). Why is it that liberals insist it is so unreasonable to have verification of the identities of voters when it's required to enter a bar or to buy a firearm? Or heck, to vote in Democratic primaries?

    http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2012/06/09/florida-voter-purge-reveals-noncitizens-who-voted/

    About 40 people statewide have been identified as noncitizens. At least four might have voted and could be guilty of a third-degree felony.


    In of a state of 19 million people, four people who were not supposed to vote MAY have voted. Or they may not have.
    Wow, you've really uncovered the story of the century.


    Did you miss the part where they hadn't completed the review as they were forced to stop? How much had they done?
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    Jun 10, 2012 7:28 PM GMT
    tailgater_3 saidwow, 40 out of over 11 MILLION registered voters in FL. i can see how that really impacts the vote.


    It's not out of 11 million - it's considerably less than that since they had only just started the review.
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    Jun 10, 2012 8:14 PM GMT
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    tailgater_3 saidwow, 40 out of over 11 MILLION registered voters in FL. i can see how that really impacts the vote.


    It's not out of 11 million - it's considerably less than that since they had only just started the review.


    riddler, Please get back to us asap when you get some numbers more specific than "considerably less".

    Was this 40 possibly illegal voters out of 'The First Hundred'..........or the first 10.8 MILLION???

    So far THE REPUBLICAN PURGE of voters nationwide has discovered what even Republicans are forced to admit is

    LESS THAN ONE HUNDREDTH OF ONE PERCENT of voters who are illegal or even questionable.

    I agree that there should be NO unlawful voting.

    There should also be NO LYING about the real statistics.

    BTW, I don't think you are lying......but you certainly are falling for the automatic Republican response. Dig a little deeper, please-------rather than participating in the latest Republican Gimmick.
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    Jun 10, 2012 10:27 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidBTW - States with voter ID laws will provide an ID for free and in at least one state, will have teams that can go to residences for those who cannot travel. So the objections about disenfranchising voters are BS.
    Hey John.. IT AINT FREE IN FL! The Rep Governor cant afford it. DUH........

    STFU. Fl has a "voter ID law".. guess you just fucked up huh? spin that one!
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    Jun 10, 2012 10:34 PM GMT
    It's funny how the Republicans who oppose the individual mandate in healthcare want to impose a poll tax on voters, which is actually not only unconstitutional but also defies the Voting Rights Act and a host of other civil rights laws.

    I'm glad they're continuing to make an issue of this because it will bite them in the ass when they try to steal the election in certain states.