The feminization of men

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    Jul 28, 2008 8:09 PM GMT
    I've grown to accept the fact that guys shave or wax their bodies. However, I don't know if I'm ready to embrace the idea of men tweezing their eyebrows and wearing "guyliner" and "mancake," e.g., Zac Efron, Jesse McCartney, Ryan Seacrest, Pete Wentz. Do I sound like an old fuddy-duddy out of touch with the new generation? Is it just me, or is anyone else bothered by this feminization of men?
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    Jul 28, 2008 8:34 PM GMT
    It doesn't bother me. In fact, I think it's a good thing. True, I don't plan to wear eyeliner anytime soon. But I don't think it's feminization, either.
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    Jul 28, 2008 8:44 PM GMT
    as I've gotten older, my brows have thinned out and not so much my hair - and it's not a look I'm liking.

    Somtimes I think guys and make-up... nah

    Then I realize some guys who laugh at any man who uses a "blow-dryer" (like thaz so gay) have more hair products, face creams (day and night) and no hair except on their faces that it makes me realize - who's to judge?

    I'd have to agree though, skip the lip-stick and eye liner.

    The only man I've seen with eye liner and looks HOT with it (and his eyes may be natural) is Nestor Carbonell!! WOOF!

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    Jul 28, 2008 8:44 PM GMT
    I am not even sure why women where some of this stuff. More money for the cosmetics industry. I will keep many of my masculine physical characterizations to the bitter end, even if it means having my chest hair turn white in the next 5 years. icon_sad.gif
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    Jul 28, 2008 8:51 PM GMT
    Don't really have much of an opinion on this but it did make me think of this song:

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    Jul 28, 2008 8:53 PM GMT
    Metro sexual, is just a nice way of saying " His a poof!"

    It was men whom started off the fad of wearing Make up in France, what rite ole poofs those French are too. Remember those white wigs, and pancake make up; yuk.

    But the girls took over the make up, and the men started to act and look like men again.

    Sorry not into girly-men!
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    Jul 28, 2008 8:55 PM GMT
    To each his own, HOWEVER my personal preference is that it doesn't LOOK like you put it on or plucked/tweez'd that much!!! Try and make it looks as natural as possible!!


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    Jul 28, 2008 8:56 PM GMT
    sluggo_la saidI've grown to accept the fact that guys shave or wax their bodies. However, I don't know if I'm ready to embrace the idea of men tweezing their eyebrows and wearing "guyliner" and "mancake," e.g., Zac Efron, Jesse McCartney, Ryan Seacrest, Pete Wentz. Do I sound like an old fuddy-duddy out of touch with the new generation? Is it just me, or is anyone else bothered by this feminization of men?


    A double standard, maybe? Women shave and wax their bodies too.
  • MuscleUp

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    Jul 28, 2008 8:58 PM GMT
    What I don't understand is when guys that wear speedos and tiny boy shorts. This is pretty fem for me.

    Ditto on Paisley Wraith.
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:00 PM GMT
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:01 PM GMT
    Guys wear eyeliner? To each person their own, I get the "you're wearing eyeliner" remark all the time but I swear it's all real, my dad's side has huge eyelashes and I wear nothing.

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    Jul 28, 2008 9:01 PM GMT
    Sure, I may not like wearing make-up, nor find those that do appealing, but it doesn't really bother me. Anything that destroys the traditional restraints of gender identity is fine by me! icon_cool.gif
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:02 PM GMT
    I think its pretty gross, on anyone, male or female. I have a fear of it actually...in rural Texas where I grew up I used to get hugs from so many older women (grandmas and aunts, usually at church where I sat bored thinking of hot men) and I would get smudged with the shit all over my my shirt around my shoulders. It just freaked me out and I dont like how it smells.

    That said, anyone is free to wear it as they like, but I would prefer to not be around it.

    I however dont mind men/myself waxing or using skin care products - like retinols and the like. I think skin care products and actual applied make up are very different species.
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:04 PM GMT
    Keep in mind that some guys shave their chest, legs, etc for athletic reasons, runners in particular. Also, wearing a heart rate training can be much more comfortable for a lot of guys once they remove the chest hair. I definitely do not dig the whole make up thing, but occasionally there are practical reasons for hair removal.
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:05 PM GMT
    I find it comical in a way watching a supposed straight guy embracing his more Metro side. When someone says... wow, he looks gay, I laugh and tell them don't put that on the gay man that's a straight guy just all confused about what to do with his new box of "products" sorta like a bunch of women getting together and dying their hair. Half of them look ridiculous before they eventually get it right.
  • GQjock

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    Jul 28, 2008 9:12 PM GMT
    I dunno...

    What was the question?

    I'm still laughin' my ass off about the "mancake" & "guyliner" icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:16 PM GMT
    Sedative saidSure, I may not like wearing make-up, nor find those that do appealing, but it doesn't really bother me. Anything that destroys the traditional restraints of gender identity is fine by me! icon_cool.gif


    Oh please. Look at what feminisem has done to the str8 guys world. It has made the rolls of men and women blurry, and now you have a lost generation of men, not knowing where to fit in.

    As a fag. I'm all for gender identity.

    To be a fag you must be:
    A pure homosexual!
    So no Bi guys!

    You Must be a regular guy!

    So no girly me; thus no make up!
    No twinks, or leather queens.

    You must be born with a penis!


    So gender identity has it's relevance.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Jul 28, 2008 9:22 PM GMT
    I spend hours in front of the mirror grooming.
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:24 PM GMT
    MikePhil saidI spend hours in front of the mirror grooming.


    Don't worry love. It will change.
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:39 PM GMT
    Pattison said
    MikePhil saidI spend hours in front of the mirror grooming.


    Don't worry love. It will change.


    Did I just get verified icon_question.gif I thought you had no interest in what I have to say until I get verified icon_question.gif I must be irresistible icon_wink.gif

    Anyway, what is it, that will change icon_question.gif
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:40 PM GMT
    I just wish more men that don't want body hair would invest in laser procedure to remove it permanently. I really don't like stubble on a man's chest.
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:46 PM GMT
    BostonBryan saidWhat I don't understand is when guys that wear speedos and tiny boy shorts. This is pretty fem for me.


    Yeah, I hear that a lot from out of shape guys with small packages.
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:50 PM GMT
    I think theres more to it than wearing mancake and guyliner(who thought of these descriptions for these products anyway? is this some metrosexual alibi excuse to wear beauty products while still acknowledging their masculine facade? Stupid!). Today's trendy effeminization goes way back, and not until recently that it has become a sublifestyle for guys who embrace their feminine attributes. For men to accept their feminine side is great. But i wonder if are they doing it as a retaliation againts the other extreme, the ultrabutch, hypermasculine men who, coincidentally, dislike the fems. everyone has a bit of the fem and butch inside us. and thats what makes us fascinating as gay men. we shouldnt have to abide to the heterosexual rules of gender roles.
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:51 PM GMT
    sluggo_la said
    BostonBryan saidWhat I don't understand is when guys that wear speedos and tiny boy shorts. This is pretty fem for me.


    Yeah, I hear that a lot from out of shape guys with small packages.


    LOL Sluggo.

    Who doesn't love a great-looking body in a speedo?
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    Jul 28, 2008 9:56 PM GMT
    inner athlete - start a money pool for me to get the laser, i go from silky smooth to sand paper scratchy in under 12 hours. if i was just into the bear thing, i could save so much money and time...