Ugandan Catholic Church wants to revive Uganda's 'kill gays' bill

  • metta

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    Jun 11, 2012 11:50 PM GMT
    Catholics want to revive Uganda's 'kill gays' bill


    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/catholics-want-revive-ugandas-kill-gays-bill110612
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    Jun 12, 2012 12:55 AM GMT
    From the story: ",,,at the annual conference of the Uganda Joint Christian Council (UJCC), an ecumenical body which brings together the Anglican, Catholic and Orthodox churches, the bishops resolved that it should be brought back from the brink."

    Why were Catholics singled out in the headline when the quote above mentions Anglican and Orthodox also. Both these Christian groups have bishops also. Makes me question the motives and the accuracy of the reporting.

    The article also states.

    "The Catholic Church had previously been the sole major religion in Uganda in opposition to the bill."

    and

    "The Vatican came out strongly and publicly against the bill and, Wikileaks revealed, even lobbied against it."

    The Vatican does not change its mind that quickly. Remember, it took approximately 500 years to apologize for the Galileo debacle. If the Church has done an about face on the issue, can assure you it was the Church in Uganda and not the Vatican. Even in the Catholic Church, bishops have some autonomy in their diocese.

    I don't think the this story is on the up-and-up and/or is being slanted for an agenda. There isn't enough information given in the story and raises more questions in the readers' minds than it answers. Bad sensationalist journalism.

    I'm going to do a search of other sources to check out the validity of the story.
  • araphael

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    Jun 12, 2012 3:03 AM GMT
    metta8 saidCatholics want to revive Uganda's 'kill gays' bill


    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/catholics-want-revive-ugandas-kill-gays-bill110612


    Well look at who the Holy Father is right now. Are you really surprised about this stance? John Paul would never have advocated such a thing. He was truly a Holy Father in the line of Peter.
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    Jun 12, 2012 3:25 AM GMT
    I was watching a documentary on this situation in Uganda a year ago, the scary part there is that even if they don't pass this ridiculous drek it doesn't lessen the danger for a gay man there at all. They are every bit as likely to be murdered by a family member for it and nobody would lift a finger or raise a brow.
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    Jun 12, 2012 3:36 AM GMT
    I call "bull shit" on this. The Roman Catholic church is totally hierarchical driven and if it doesn't come from the Vatican then it isn't the Church's position. The Vatican has already flatly denounced the proposed law.

    I checked up the sources to the story too, and discovered that the UJCC is indeed a group of different religions and it's headed by a Protestant bishop. I also discovered that the proposed Bill discussed by the UJCC already had the notorious death penalty clauses removed so I cant even tell from the articles what exactly the proposed law entails.

    I also noticed that the article(s) claimed that the UJCC's position was that Parliament should "engage" the Bill. May be semantics but "engage" isn't necessarily "pass"; maybe they just want the Bill to be put to a vote once and for all so that the whole issue of the foreign aid currently held up by the proposed Bill would be cleared if the thing is just defeated.

    The OP's headline is totally misleading.

    PS- Catholics aren't the only ones with Bishops. I kind of wonder if the reference to "Bishops" in the source articles led someone to assume that they were Catholic.


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    Jun 12, 2012 3:41 AM GMT
    The Vatican strongly opposes the death penalty in any circumstances also so...yeah.
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    Jun 12, 2012 1:01 PM GMT
    Hello folks.. did you read this:


    "The Catholic Church had previously been the sole major religion in Uganda in opposition to the bill."

    And its the "Ugandan Catholic church"

    "Uganda watchers say that the change by the Ugandan Catholic church is ‘very serious’ and that the UJCC resolution was pushed by an Anglican bishop.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 12, 2012 1:20 PM GMT
    The title of this thread is misleading and erroneously evokes a broad support of such action by the Catholic church which simply is not true. Regardless, this part of the world must seriously be Hell on Earth. I feel so sorry for the poor people that have to live under the corrupt regimes who live like kings while the majority of the country starves.