Democratic Pat Caddell: Obama's Natl Security Advisor Tom Donilon IS Leaker with Obama's permission/perhaps instigation

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    Jun 12, 2012 8:28 AM GMT
    This can be a major story to clean out the rot from the White House

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2894235/posts

    Dem Pollster Pat Caddell: Obama's Natl Security Advisor Tom Donilon IS The WH Secrets Leaker - Sean Hannity Show

    On Hannity, Dem pollster Pat Caddell swears he absolutely knows from his sources who the WH secrets leaker is, and it is National Security Advisor Tom Donilon.

    Caddell, who is very well wired into all things Democratic in DC, said he thought there as no way Donilon would have done this without Obama's permission and perhaps instigation.

    He went on to describe Donilon as a "pure political hack" who has absolutely no experience or qualifications to be the NSA.

    Caddell" "Because of this hack, American friends are either dead, in prison or on the run. The Israelis are absolutely furious over the Azerbaijani leak"

    To quote Caddell, "This is a job that people like Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft, Condi Rice and Colin Powell have had, and then Obama brings in this vote-counting political hack, registered lobbyist-lawyer for Fannie Mae!"

    "General Jones was quoted as saying this hack has no credibility with the military, and now he is burning them." When he burned the CIA in a previous leak, the then-CIA director told him; "I've got a new PR plan for you, Tom. Shut the F**k Up!"

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    Even if Obama did not have the security background or credentials himself, what does it say about his judgement appointing a hack to such a responsible position?
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    Jun 12, 2012 11:38 AM GMT
    Pat Caddell is a crank whose opinions are rightly dismissed by anyone not drinking the Faux News Kool-Aid.

    For instance, he thinks the environmentalism is an effort to destroy capitalism.

    He also hasn't been a Democrat since the 1970s. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 12, 2012 11:55 AM GMT
    I would just add to the OP that the White House has not refuted the facts that were leaked, and the descriptions of what occurred in the Situation Room as well as in the Oval Office had to come from the very top.

    Was Obama directly involved, or will Donilon be the fall guy? Consider this: After the first leak, Obama could have gotten involved and put a stop to it. But he didn't. So is there any other reasonable conclusion that at the very least, he knowingly allowed the leaks to continue?

    Allowing such leaks was based on total incompetence not understanding the severe impacts. Fortunately, the outrage extends to loyal, patriotic Democrats such as Sen. Diane Feinstein. Over the years, she is one Democrat I have supported because her integrity and character have meant more to me than some fundamental policy differences.

    Those who put political ambition above the welfare of our country, who jeopardize our relationship with allies, and mostly who put our troops at risk are scum, beneath contempt. As much as the economy is said to be the number one issue, I think as this story comes out, seeing the willingness of this Administration to put its own ambition over the safety of our troops will lead to such a revulsion that it may come close to being the top issue. I think many on both sides of the political spectrum, except for the far left, will breath a sigh of relief when this Administration is dragged out of Washington, bruised, bloodied, and serving as an object lesson that some fundamental things are more important than political ambition.
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    Remember when all the conservaposse members were screaming that we should suspend judgment on George Zimmerman's guilt in murdering Trayvon Martin?

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    Jun 12, 2012 1:10 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidThis can be a major story to clean out the rot from the White House

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2894235/posts

    Dem Pollster Pat Caddell: Obama's Natl Security Advisor Tom Donilon IS The WH Secrets Leaker - Sean Hannity Show

    On Hannity, Dem pollster Pat Caddell swears he absolutely knows from his sources who the WH secrets leaker is, and it is National Security Advisor Tom Donilon.

    Caddell, who is very well wired into all things Democratic in DC, said he thought there as no way Donilon would have done this without Obama's permission and perhaps instigation.

    He went on to describe Donilon as a "pure political hack" who has absolutely no experience or qualifications to be the NSA.

    Caddell" "Because of this hack, American friends are either dead, in prison or on the run. The Israelis are absolutely furious over the Azerbaijani leak"

    To quote Caddell, "This is a job that people like Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft, Condi Rice and Colin Powell have had, and then Obama brings in this vote-counting political hack, registered lobbyist-lawyer for Fannie Mae!"

    "General Jones was quoted as saying this hack has no credibility with the military, and now he is burning them." When he burned the CIA in a previous leak, the then-CIA director told him; "I've got a new PR plan for you, Tom. Shut the F**k Up!"

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    Even if Obama did not have the security background or credentials himself, what does it say about his judgement appointing a hack to such a responsible position?


    Gawd John, even TODD doesnt post crap like this.icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    socalfitness saidI would just add to the OP that the White House has not refuted the facts that were leaked, and the descriptions of what occurred in the Situation Room as well as in the Oval Office had to come from the very top.

    Was Obama directly involved, or will Donilon be the fall guy? Consider this: After the first leak, Obama could have gotten involved and put a stop to it. But he didn't. So is there any other reasonable conclusion that at the very least, he knowingly allowed the leaks to continue?

    Allowing such leaks was based on total incompetence not understanding the severe impacts. Fortunately, the outrage extends to loyal, patriotic Democrats such as Sen. Diane Feinstein. Over the years, she is one Democrat I have supported because her integrity and character have meant more to me than some fundamental policy differences.

    Those who put political ambition above the welfare of our country, who jeopardize our relationship with allies, and mostly who put our troops at risk are scum, beneath contempt. As much as the economy is said to be the number one issue, I think as this story comes out, seeing the willingness of this Administration to put its own ambition over the safety of our troops will lead to such a revulsion that it may come close to being the top issue. I think many on both sides of the political spectrum, except for the far left, will breath a sigh of relief when this Administration is dragged out of Washington, bruised, bloodied, and serving as an object lesson that some fundamental things are more important than political ambition.


    "Sen. Diane Feinstein. Over the years, she is one Democrat I have supported because her integrity and character have meant more to me than some fundamental policy differences."

    Funny, that's one of the two democrats I've voted for. I don't mind her at all.
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    freedomisntfree said"Sen. Diane Feinstein. Over the years, she is one Democrat I have supported because her integrity and character have meant more to me than some fundamental policy differences."

    Funny, that's one of the two democrats I've voted for. I don't mind her at all.

    Except for her vote on Obamacare, I have not had a problem with her record. The fact that she and other Democrats share revulsion at the leaks show bipartisanship is still alive. It is only the extreme, radical left-wing that would claim this is a right-wing witch hunt. They are in the same league as those who throw molotov cocktails at G8 meetings. Unpatriotic and care more about their ideology than the safety of our troops.
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    Jun 12, 2012 2:34 PM GMT
    It's so funny how Republicans who supported Bush's sending our troops into Iraq based on a pack of lies are now so worried about their safety.

    Also, funny how they support Romney's attack on firefighters and police officers many of whom are veterans and National Guard members.

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    Jun 12, 2012 2:40 PM GMT
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    This is serious / involving the Obama administration. A "parade of leaks" coming from the Situation Room. "Very damaging national security information".
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    freedomisntfree said"Sen. Diane Feinstein. Over the years, she is one Democrat I have supported because her integrity and character have meant more to me than some fundamental policy differences."

    Funny, that's one of the two democrats I've voted for. I don't mind her at all.

    Except for her vote on Obamacare, I have not had a problem with her record. The fact that she and other Democrats share revulsion at the leaks show bipartisanship is still alive. It is only the extreme, radical left-wing that would claim this is a right-wing witch hunt. They are in the same league as those who throw molotov cocktails at G8 meetings. Unpatriotic and care more about their ideology than the safety of our troops.


    Agree ^^^. I actually voted for her as opposed to huffing Mike a few years back. I cringe at voting for a Democrat over a Republican, but she earned it.
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    Jun 12, 2012 2:58 PM GMT
    Whats the Matter SoCal, you had no problem with all of Bush's far right Israeli NEO CON's Leading us to war unecessarily with Iraq initiating the 'homeland sefcurity' debacle and taking away many a citizens rights (remember 41 of his 54 war cabinet were dual citizens with Israel)

    Now your complaining because an Israeli leaning Obama Advisor leaked their efforts that you know good and well was coordinated with Israel ? You should also know that since this advisor is so 'Pro Israel' that he wouldn't have exposed anything unless he had approval from accross the pond.

    Remember, in dealing with Israel all is not as it seems !!

    SoCal !! Why are you so Anti Israel now that these 'pro israeli's' are in the Obama administration ? I have to wonder about you !!!


    Donilon regarded as pro-Israel

    President Obama's new national security adviser, Thomas Donilon, is regarded as pro-Israel.
    He has close ties to Vice President Joe Biden, who is considered the White House official with the warmest ties to the Jewish community. Donilon’s wife, Cathy Russell, is chief of staff to Biden’s wife, Jill, and his brother, Michael, is a senior adviser to Biden.

    In a statement released by Biden after Donilon’s appoint was announced last Friday, he said: “Tom Donilon has been my friend and adviser for nearly 25 years. These past two years, he has been at the heart of our foreign and national security policies. He brings to his new responsibilities a remarkable depth of knowledge about the challenges and opportunities our country faces around the world.”

    One of Donilon’s clients during his time as a lawyer was Penny Pritzker, daughter of Hyatt hotel chain founder Donald Pritzker and member of the notable Jewish American Pritzker business family. Penny Pritzker is one of President Obama’s strongest Jewish backers. She was the national finance chair of Obama's presidential campaign and was even considered to be his Commerce Secretary.

    Donilon’s appointment has also been backed and approved by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. “Tom Donilon understands it’s a dangerous world,” said Committee spokesman Josh Block in a statement. “In every position he has held throughout his career in government, he has been a strong friend of the US-Israel relationship.”
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    Jockbod48 saidThis is serious / involving the Obama administration. A "parade of leaks" coming from the Situation Room. "Very damaging national security information".

    Interesting watching again Obama denying leaks came from the White House and expressing outrage at the suggestion. The lie could not be more obvious when the non-refuted facts describe events in the White House attended by the most senior staff. Similar to the story of a bank robber, chased and caught by the police and claims to have not robbed the bank while holding a money bag in his hand.

    You have to wonder:

    1) Is Obama that stupid to make up a lie that is so obvious?

    2). Does Obama think we are so stupid that we will believe him?

    3) Is Obama's back to the wall and he is flailing?

    4) Does Obama not care what the informed citizenry thinks, deciding to focus on voter turnout from his loyal base as well as the uninformed who don't know or don't care what goes on, as long as they are rewarded with promises of entitlements?
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    Jockbod48 saidThis is serious / involving the Obama administration. A "parade of leaks" coming from the Situation Room. "Very damaging national security information".

    Interesting watching again Obama denying leaks came from the White House and expressing outrage at the suggestion. The lie could not be more obvious when the non-refuted facts describe events in the White House attended by the most senior staff. Similar to the story of a bank robber, chased and caught by the police and claims to have not robbed the bank while holding a money bag in his hand.

    You have to wonder:

    1) Is Obama that stupid to make up a lie that is so obvious?

    2). Does Obama think we are so stupid that we will believe him?

    3) Is Obama's back to the wall and he is flailing?

    4) Does Obama not care what the informed citizenry thinks, deciding to focus on voter turnout from his loyal base as well as the uninformed who don't know or don't care what goes on, as long as they are rewarded with promises of entitlements?




    What a damn short memory you have SoCal !!

    Don't you remember the F'n Israeli NEO CONS that leaked that bullshit about 'YELLOW CAKE" to promote the war they'ed wanted and planned for for nearly a decade before 911 ?

    This current leak under Obama is miniscule next to the Pro War Thugs that Bush had from among his Israeli Dual Citizen NEO CON's



    How many will die because of Obama's "LEAK" compared to during Bush and Cheney's "LEAKED LIES" to promote war ?


    Your a godamned fool to even bring this up in light of what the 'bushies' pulled off.
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    Gawd John, even TODD doesnt post crap like this.icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
    I retract that statement!
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    Jun 12, 2012 9:02 PM GMT
    Two words: Valerie Plame.
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    Jun 12, 2012 9:04 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidTwo words: Valerie Plame.


    They like to pretend she was a secretary or something.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    q1w2e3 saidTwo words: Valerie Plame.

    You ought to be embarrassed bringing up her name to suggest any equivalency.

    Her identity as a CIA employee was revealed by Richard Armitage of the State Department to Robert Novak. He was not prosecuted because his offense was considered inadvertent and he cooperated fully with investigators.

    Following the ensuing investigation, Scooter Libby, an aid to Cheyney, was convicted of perjury, obstruction of justice, and making false statements to investigators.

    Pres Bush commuted the jail portion of the sentence, but left the fine and probation, calling the sentence excessive.

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    So you are comparing a one time leak of a CIA person who was not endangered with the repeated leaks for political gain of highly sensitive government information, impacting our relationship with our allies, compromising double agents in Al Qaeda, and endangering our troops who are in combat situations?

    You ought to feel like a total fool for even considering an equivalence.
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    Jun 12, 2012 11:02 PM GMT
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/leaker-chief_646839.html

    Leaker-in-Chief by Lee Smith

    The Justice Department has launched an investigation into the White House’s handling of classified information. The spur seems to have been the June 1 New York Times article by David Sanger, sourced to current and former U.S. officials, revealing sensitive details about the Stuxnet and Flame computer worms and other parts of the Obama administration’s cyber campaign to disrupt and spy on Iran’s nuclear weapons program. By the way, none of the officials, according to Sanger, “would allow their names to be used because the effort remains highly classified, and parts of it continue to this day.”

    Last week, legislators on both sides of the aisle deplored the administration’s inability, or unwillingness, to keep national security secrets. Leaders of the Senate and House intelligence committees—Senators Saxby Chambliss and Dianne Feinstein and Representatives Mike Rogers and C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger—released a statement noting, “We have become increasingly concerned at the continued leaks regarding sensitive intelligence programs and activities, including specific details of sources and methods.”

    In his June 8 press conference Obama tried to push back against the gathering storm. “The notion that my White House would purposely release classified national security information is offensive,” he said. “It’s wrong.”

    The president and the New York Times can’t both be right. If the president is correct, then the paper of record, which has so far seemed to be a willing receptacle for the administration’s leaks, must be printing fabrications. Last month the same newspaper detailed how the president directs U.S. drone attacks in Pakistan and Yemen based on a classified “kill list” of terror suspects, a story based on information from “three dozen” of the president’s “current and former advisers.” So the latest Times article on Iran, revealing what the administration has now tacitly acknowledged as a joint U.S.-Israeli program, looks to be merely the most recent installment in a campaign of intentional leaks damaging to our national security.

    The administration, needless to say, sees things differently. From the perspective of Obama’s handlers, and perhaps of their friends in the press, these leaks are spellbinding episodes in a Hollywood-worthy narrative of the president as ever-vigilant superhero, with his finger on the button, ready at a moment’s notice to bring the full weight of American power to bear on our adversaries, so that we may all sleep safely at night. It’s epic, all right. But it’s spin.

    All White Houses engage in political stagecraft, but this is something else. The Obama administration can rightly claim the crown of laurels for killing Osama bin Laden—even if the program and personnel that brought down the al Qaeda chief were in place long before Obama came to office. But due credit was not enough for the Obama team. To craft a story about a heroic president and his leading part in American history, the administration rolled out the red carpet for moviemakers like Hurt Locker director Kathryn Bigelow, and gorged the working press with details. It was this information that disclosed the role of a local doctor whose efforts on behalf of an American clandestine operation earned him a 33-year sentence in a Pakistani prison.

    That physician is not the only casualty of the White House’s vanity. The administration boasted of a mole who had infiltrated Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and helped thwart an attack against the United States. The man was working for British and Saudi intelligence and details of his role not only damaged the ongoing operations of allied intelligence services, but also put the lives of the agent and others at risk.

    Who knows how the information disclosed in the Times’s recent Stuxnet story may come back to harm our citizens and interests, or our ally Israel’s? But the message broadcast to friends, and potential friends, is clear enough. If you fail in your dangerous mission, you may die. If you succeed, you may earn a supporting role in the Obama reelection campaign.

    “Why else would they want to do this, except to enhance the image of the president six months before the election?” Sen. John McCain said in an interview with The Weekly Standard last week. “Why else reveal the name of this Pakistani doctor? You can only draw one conclusion. The purpose of all these leaks is to tell a story about a brave, lonely warrior with all this awesome responsibility.”

    McCain, who has called for a special prosecutor, has been the administration’s most vocal critic. The White House, says McCain, “got mad when I said these leaks were all meant to make the president look good.” But that’s the simplest explanation for the leaks: The White House has run an information operation that has put us and our allies at risk with no obvious benefit except to the prospects of Obama’s reelection.

    McCain says he is cheered by the “widespread bipartisan anger at the leaks,” but Feinstein and other Democrats, such as John Kerry, say that the leaks are just a function of lax discipline and the administration’s poor housekeeping. However, there is evidence that the White House knows quite well what it’s doing.


    In an excerpt from his just published book, Confront and Conceal: Obama’s Secret Wars and Surprising Use of American Power, from which the cyber war story was adapted for the Times, Sanger recounts how Pentagon officials “fumed” when White House counterterrorism czar John Brennan apparently gave away “operational secrets never shared outside the tribe.” Defense Secretary Robert Gates confronted the senior administration official he perhaps believed in the best position to enact, or at least forward, his recommendation for a “new strategic communications approach.” And what was that strategic approach? asked White House national security adviser Thomas Donilon. “Shut the f— up,” said Gates.

    In other words, Defense Secretary Robert Gates thought President Obama’s national security adviser was responsible, directly or indirectly, for the leaks. And if Donilon is responsible, the buck stops with President Obama.

    To paraphrase the president, that his White House would purposely release classified national security information is offensive. And it’s wrong.
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    Jun 13, 2012 3:20 PM GMT
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/13/former-top-cia-counter-terrorism-officer-absolutely-people-should-go-to-jail-for-leaks-video/
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    Jun 13, 2012 3:29 PM GMT
    Both Democrats and Republicans have come out strongly in a bipartisan contempt regarding these latest leaks. Obviously, in an election year, the sport of finger pointing is played heavily. Regardless, this is a serious problem that both sides of the aisle are demanding be addressed...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/dianne-feinstein-saxby-chambliss-leaks-new-york-times_n_1578383.html
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    Jun 13, 2012 3:39 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidBoth Democrats and Republicans have come out strongly in a bipartisan contempt regarding these latest leaks. Obviously, in an election year, the sport of finger pointing is played heavily. Regardless, this is a serious problem that both sides of the aisle are demanding be addressed...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/dianne-feinstein-saxby-chambliss-leaks-new-york-times_n_1578383.html

    There is a political divide at present. Republicans are demanding a special prosecutor independent of Holder. Concerns are two fold. First, there are doubts about Holder having influence. Second, the internal DOJ investigation into Fast and Furious was seen by some as a means to stonewall Congressional oversight. Idea is the investigations by Holder regarding the leaks would be intended to keep things quiet until after the election.

    Democrats are on thin ground opposing an independent prosecutor. They demanded same with the Plame and Abramoff cases, each much less serious. Sen Graham said this AM that they won't accept an internal DOJ investigation.
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    Jun 17, 2012 8:46 PM GMT
    There are some extremely ignorant and/or dishonest far-leftists who need to read this thread again.

    6/17/12 Sen Lieberman is now recommending a Special Investigator.
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    Jun 17, 2012 9:02 PM GMT
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-wallace-skewers-obama-senior-adviser-on-white-house-involvement-in-intel-leaks/

    Chris Wallace Skewers Obama Senior Adviser On White House Involvement In Intel Leaks

    David Plouffe, adviser to President Obama, pervaded Sunday morning news shows this week, and among them was an interview with Fox News Sunday‘s Chris Wallace. In a show focused largely on the recent leaks of classified intelligence, Wallace grilled Plouffe on how this information was leaked and how much the president is willing to participate in the investigation.

    He told Wallace the person “who wrote the book in question” said no one in the White House provided the information, to which Wallace countered, saying the author never claimed that. “He in fact said he did talk to people,” Wallace said.

    There is going to be a thorough investigation, Plouffe said — but Wallace reverted back to the question Plouffe never answered: did the president or top officials declassify any of the information? Again, as Plouffe pivoted, Wallace said it’s simply a yes or no question. “No, of course he didn’t,” Plouffe replied. Previously, Obama had said the notion that his White House leaked the information is “offensive.” Along the same vein, Plouffe called it “highly objectionable.”

    Plouffe then accused Republicans of using the leaks issue to damage the president. We’re going to let the investigation proceed, he said, rather than let this turn into “distractions” from important issues like fighting Al Qaeda and fixing the economy. “You think these are distractions?” Wallace asked. Plouffe clarified that he meant an investigation is already underway.

    On that note, Wallace asked to what extent the White House is participating in the investigation. Plouffe said “everyone is going to participate.” Wallace asked whether Obama would agree to be questioned, to which Plouffe replied, “I’m not going to get into that right now.”

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    Jun 17, 2012 9:24 PM GMT
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    So what ?

    I could go on TV and swear that I knew that you were an idiot.