Obliques

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    Aug 09, 2007 5:04 AM GMT
    My current frustration concerns my obliques. I want really shredded, ripped up obliques... so what better way to obtain info about how to build them than to ask you guys?? =D
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    Aug 09, 2007 1:14 PM GMT
    LOL!!! I love the little twist at the end.

    I think probably the best way to obtain information (about this, or anything else) is to talk to lots of different people, and then try things for yourself.

    Everyone works differently. Everybody has different genetics, everybody's body responds to different things. Anybody that says they have one system that will produce results for everybody is trying to sell you something.

    When I'm trying to improve a specific body-part, my first reaction is to watch and go up to guys at the gym who have good examples of that body-part. It's not a terrible methodology, but it's not the best, either: a lot of people with bad workout habits have good genetics. So my second strategy is to ask trainers, because (presumably) they at least have a clue.

    But most importantly, get a variety of answers and then try things to see what works for you.
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    Aug 09, 2007 2:01 PM GMT
    Greg is absolulely right Satyricon. Everyone is different. It's a tough pill to swallow, but some of us just aren't genetically inclined to ever look that shredded.

    I'm not. I've found that in order to look like that, it requires 5 days a week of REALLY intense cardio (swimming/rowing for 90+ minutes at high intensity), and not letting a single carbohydrate cross my lips. The cardio I don't mind so much. Giving up bread and fruit, forget it. I'd rather have my natural lean look than get uber-shredded any day of the week.

    So, that's not to discourage you from trying. But if you don't get the results you're looking for, don't get discouraged either.
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    Aug 09, 2007 3:38 PM GMT
    There's a former Mr. America who has written a number of books on fitness - some of them are just Wieder crap - but one seems more substantial. In it he says that in order to lose the last little bit of fat around his waist (and obliques) he has to get so lean that he, his family, and his friends think his face looks drawn and unhealthy. So he makes peace with a little bit of softness for the sake of overall appearance.

    Genetics determines how fat is apportioned on your body. Some people carry it some places, some another. My upper chest and shoulders can be vascular, and I still have a pad of fat below my belly button and under my outer pecs. To get rid of that for contest, I get so lean that people think I'm sick, and it's hard to maintain that for more than a week or so.

    You're very young and very slender. IF you don't have a lot of fat down there AND you build up more lean mass to increase your metabolic rate AND you do more (gentle) cardio AND you watch your intake, you might get the look you want. But you may also need to make peace with it for the sake of your overall appearance, and to have a reasonable life outside of the gym.
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    Aug 09, 2007 8:38 PM GMT
    but one exercise is a must have if you get your body fat that low and its the good ole woodchoppers

    It feels like someone slaps a girdle on you once you have finished!
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    Aug 09, 2007 10:08 PM GMT
    If you're REALLY interested, winter is acomin' on fast, and I need about 3 cords of wood split for my house and five cords for my Mom's house.
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    Aug 10, 2007 4:17 AM GMT
    Here's a good exercise for those obliques that I use with athletic clients who are looking to get that little extra.

    Attach a single hand grip to the low pulley on a cable machine.

    Lay flat on your back and put your left foot through the single hand grip.
    using the pin load on a low weight, now bring your knee toward your chest, like a row movement. lower and repeat, not allowing your foot to touch the floor. 10-15 reps, then change foot and repeat with your right foot.

    This is challenging, and will target your Apollo's Belt beautifully.

    But I must agree with all of the above, obliques and abdominals in general have a lot to do with genetics and body fat %. Cardio is excellent for reducing body fat, along with good diet. But for some of us, that ripped 8 pack may simply never appear. Regardless, it is good to work on this area strongly for good all over health and fitness.

    good luck
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    Aug 10, 2007 9:30 AM GMT
    Oh coolness, I go away for a little while (having lost my life to a computer game) and I come back to all these thoughtful responses =)

    I figured body fat % had a lot to do with it, so this past week or two I added cardio to my mornings after not doing any for years. I've started doing jumping jacks before breakfast... I remember someone on another thread saying that was the best time for it.

    I'll throw in the woodchoppers and cronker's exercise and see what happens.

    Thanks guys!

    (btw guys, the elves in Heroes of Might and Magic V are HOT =D )