Romney now leads in one poll in Wisconsin

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    Jun 13, 2012 5:46 PM GMT
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/wisconsin/election_2012_wisconsin_president
  • jock_1

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    Jun 13, 2012 5:54 PM GMT
    Yep, he got the bump I expected from the Walker win. Like I said, I believe he wins Wisconsin in November. Oh how the lunatic left will now try and spin this....Ummmm he paid for it?....ummm the evil Koch brothers....umm its Bushes fault.

    I hope they keep thier collective heads in the sand because the democrats and thier leaders in My state of Wisconsin are truely pathetic
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    Jun 13, 2012 6:14 PM GMT
    I think we shall see who truly has balls around here come election night in November. Me thinks there will be some not so unexpected absences among us icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 13, 2012 6:21 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI think we shall see who truly has balls around here come election night in November. Me thinks there will be some not so unexpected absences among us icon_wink.gif

    Some will need to be on extra-strength lithium.
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    Jun 13, 2012 6:59 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    CuriousJockAZ saidI think we shall see who truly has balls around here come election night in November. Me thinks there will be some not so unexpected absences among us icon_wink.gif

    Some will need to be on extra-strength lithium.



    We should probably alert the authorities in St. Petersburg and other parts of Florida, Scarsdale & Casa Grande, New York, L.A., and, of course, Dallas. I'm sure there will be a run on straight-jackets that night icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 13, 2012 7:04 PM GMT
    WI is not going to easily go red. We are still a blue state... This election is really really difficult for me. I want so badly to slap the GOP in the face by having them lose as a statement against the social platforms they continue to embrace and yet I don't know if we can survive another Obama term.
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    Jun 13, 2012 8:03 PM GMT
    Another four years of the same could create an abyss that we cannot come back from so all the rest may not matter much.
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    Jun 13, 2012 8:03 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWI is not going to easily go red. We are still a blue state... This election is really really difficult for me. I want so badly to slap the GOP in the face by having them lose as a statement against the social platforms they continue to embrace and yet I don't know if we can survive another Obama term.

    This is my view. The primaries were tough and Romney needed to do some pandering to get votes from all areas, especially the conservatives who had been suspicious of him. If he wins the election, I don't think he is motivated to move out aggressively on the social issues and alienate the center. He will be too busy with the economy.

    I think gay fiscal conservatives will have a couple of options going forward:

    1. Support the Republicans and work to reduce the influence of the fundamentalists. If the Democrats become more fiscally towards the center, the Republicans may be motivated to not lose the center, so efforts to reduce the fundamentalist influence may pay off.

    2. If Obama loses and the Democrats become more centrist, work within the Democratic Party.

    Either way, I think we need to get rid of Obama who would just continue the same policies towards European-style socialism. Would be terrible. We have already lost a generation's accumulation of weath. Would be a tragedy if it continued.
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    Jun 13, 2012 8:08 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidAnother four years of the same could create an abyss that we cannot come back from so all the rest may not matter much.



    I don't happen to share the doom & gloom that some of you have. I don't think Obama being re-elected would be the end of the world. We will survive. I'm not so sure that ANY President -- Republican or Democart -- will make all that big of a difference in The Bigger Picture. If we are headed over a cliff, it may happen regardless of who is president. The problems this time around may just be bigger than any one President, or any one political party, or even any one country. We are in a bit of unchartered territory right now on a global basis.
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    Jun 13, 2012 8:28 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidAnother four years of the same could create an abyss that we cannot come back from so all the rest may not matter much.

    I don't happen to share the doom & gloom that some of you have. I don't think Obama being re-elected would be the end of the world. We will survive. I'm not so sure that ANY President -- Republican or Democart -- will make all that big of a difference in The Bigger Picture. If we are headed over a cliff, it may happen regardless of who is president. The problems this time around may just be bigger than any one President, or any one political party, or even any one country. We are in a bit of unchartered territory right now on a global basis.

    There is a huge difference. It won't be gloom and doom for me, but for the country a further erosion. Companies will not grow and hire with an anti-private sector admin in power with regulation stranglehold, etc.
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    Jun 13, 2012 8:31 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidAnother four years of the same could create an abyss that we cannot come back from so all the rest may not matter much.



    I don't happen to share the doom & gloom that some of you have. I don't think Obama being re-elected would be the end of the world. We will survive. I'm not so sure that ANY President -- Republican or Democart -- will make all that big of a difference in The Bigger Picture. If we are headed over a cliff, it may happen regardless of who is president. The problems this time around may just be bigger than any one President, or any one political party, or even any one country. We are in a bit of unchartered territory right now on a global basis.


    Even if Obama wins, if we can keep control over the house or the senate we can kinda sorta limit some of the bad that could happen.
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    Jun 13, 2012 8:58 PM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    freedomisntfree saidAnother four years of the same could create an abyss that we cannot come back from so all the rest may not matter much.

    I don't happen to share the doom & gloom that some of you have. I don't think Obama being re-elected would be the end of the world. We will survive. I'm not so sure that ANY President -- Republican or Democart -- will make all that big of a difference in The Bigger Picture. If we are headed over a cliff, it may happen regardless of who is president. The problems this time around may just be bigger than any one President, or any one political party, or even any one country. We are in a bit of unchartered territory right now on a global basis.

    There is a huge difference. It won't be gloom and doom for me, but for the country a further erosion. Companies will not grow and hire with an anti-private sector admin in power with regulation stranglehold, etc.

    Also please read about the Law of the Sea Treaty that Obama is trying to push through and tell me there is little difference between the options:
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2444092