Anyone here for the Zeitgeist Movement?

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    Jun 18, 2012 12:46 AM GMT
    I believe I might be in! Just watched the movie and the inner peace and piece of mind I have from watching it is liberating! The misunderstandings I have always sensed, yet could not put a finger on, has finally been brought clear. It's sort of frightening in it's own way because Truth brings about drastic changes whether for good or for bad. I would like to believe it will be for the good! Whichever turn we take, I will still live and die for Truth.
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    Jun 18, 2012 1:14 AM GMT
    Idk wth you're talking about, but somehow it should suite me; but like any mass psychological migration, you may find you want out when your individual needs, wants and desires aren't being met outside the prescribed curriculum. No matter what you believe: question it, question yourself, and learn to live with what makes you happy on small and large scales as best you can for yourself. Otherwise, you're just another mule for someone else's schemer campaign with unquestioned allegiance to one mind/school of thought. Take care of your self.icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 18, 2012 2:40 AM GMT
    JoyfullyRandom saidIdk wth you're talking about, but somehow it should suite me; but like any mass psychological migration, you may find you want out when your individual needs, wants and desires aren't being met outside the prescribed curriculum. No matter what you believe: question it, question yourself, and learn to live with what makes you happy on small and large scales as best you can for yourself. Otherwise, you're just another mule for someone else's schemer campaign with unquestioned allegiance to one mind/school of thought. Take care of your self.icon_wink.gif


    Yes, I too will always remain a skeptic. It seems once something is accepted morally, scientifically, politically, or spiritually, it moves in a selfish direction. I believe in one thing: the quest of correct philosophy.

    I will say, I watched this movie and I really went from being offended to being in almost complete acceptance of it. Being I wrote a paper on the middle east war, I was already very moved by writers Sebastian Junger and John Swofford. I was very moved by what they went through and in the comparison to Pearl Harbor, I do believe our society has been cheated by it's own government.

    On the subject of religion, I found the movie was fascinating actually. They were answers I always wanted, yet can be so lazy to do the footwork or reading to put together my own theory about spirituality.

    Basically, I loved the movie!
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    Jun 18, 2012 2:57 AM GMT
    Zeitgeist is anti-Semitic...

    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/57732/brave-new-world

    It makes Ron Paul supporters look sane...

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    Jun 18, 2012 2:59 AM GMT
    I'll have to find it on NetFlix. Can't say I'll be persuaded to anything. I use Occam's Razor and slice a bad movie in reviews. I do however have a sweet spot for Documentaries and Self Help Books... maybe this will fit in, but we'll see. Thanks for posting. Time for a nap. Have a good one!
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    Jun 18, 2012 3:20 AM GMT
    LIEV saidZeitgeist is anti-Semitic...

    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/57732/brave-new-world

    It makes Ron Paul supporters look sane...



    That's probably a good way to put it, but unlike Ron, they give you the reason's why in a logical format of evidence and those reasons are pretty damn solid.

    For example, I've heard it mentioned many times that the Jesus myth came from earlier philosophies; this movie listed them all. It also explains why Christianity and the bible are rooted in paganism. No other effort to convince me of this has ever convinced me successfully. Now I even question whether Jesus even existed as anything other than a mythological character.

    The entire movie always pointed you towards the evidence behind it's logical approach to religion, politics, and this economy. Plus the movie does not exploit itself with some political agenda. It doesn't even mention the movement because it probably started the movement.
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    Jun 18, 2012 3:28 AM GMT
    JoyfullyRandom saidI'll have to find it on NetFlix. Can't say I'll be persuaded to anything. I use Occam's Razor and slice a bad movie in reviews. I do however have a sweet spot for Documentaries and Self Help Books... maybe this will fit in, but we'll see. Thanks for posting. Time for a nap. Have a good one!


    Yes, that is how I watched it. It starts off with religion and then moves onto politics and then of course the economy. I sort of understood the economy portion mostly from my own understanding of it. But it did shed some light on why pumping brand new money into the system doesn't work and also why they do this then hide the fact they do this.
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    Jun 18, 2012 3:37 AM GMT
    Oh. You again. One day, you're all Unitarian, then Zeitgeist, then JESUS!!!!111111111111111111111 like, make up what's left of your mind brah
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    Jun 18, 2012 3:44 AM GMT
    I don't think Ron Paul is insane. If you find out where his opinions really come from (or what they really are) I think it's hard to say that.
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    Jun 18, 2012 4:10 AM GMT
    One way I found the movie interesting is that it takes you down a path of society that we intuitively know to be true, yet are afraid to admit it. I also enjoyed how even a child could get something out of it because the fundamental structure of the arguments allow you to inductively reason and still get something out of it. After seeing it, I feel like I am not alone anymore. It is time we allow ourselves to form new idea's and philosophies about life rather than fear the old ones will be forgotten. Of course this movie is just building upon those philsophies by demonstrating the history that lies before them and speculating the future that lies ahead of them. It's about time the world can openly discuss these issues.
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    Jun 18, 2012 4:17 AM GMT
    I believe a lot of it to be true... not everything perhaps .. but I can imagine we live in a world that is very much controlled by those in power and is not to our own benefit, but it this way
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    Jun 18, 2012 5:05 AM GMT
    I was meaning to watch this years ago, but didn't.

    Will watch the film later today; I'll be back with my take it on it, as and when....
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    Jun 18, 2012 5:09 AM GMT
    LIEV saidZeitgeist is anti-Semitic...

    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/57732/brave-new-world

    It makes Ron Paul supporters look sane...



    I think one of the reasons many of these theories become anti-semitic looking is due to their belief that the banks are in power, and that it is a Jewish cause to run banks... its a bit .. simplistic....

    The main banks that are in power are held by people such as the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers.. the Rothschilds are indeed of jewish religion I believe... (but then nowadays, so many people are that are not historically-ethnically and vice-versa)

    http://www.rense.com/general79/tril.htm
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    Jun 20, 2012 4:12 PM GMT
    Hi!

    I didn't particularly like "Zeitgeist: The Movie", because it left me with a "wow.. the world is really fucked.. Now what?!" feeling

    The one 1 year later "Zeitgeist Addedum", now THAT rocked my balls icon_biggrin.gif because it ends presenting a solution! And because it sparked the movement icon_smile.gif
    The movement which is all about publicizing a new way of managing society, summarized here: http://youtu.be/4mkRFCtl2MI ^_^ enjoy!
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    Jun 20, 2012 4:24 PM GMT
    i am a HUGE FAN.. i believe in the principles and ideals they present.. but like many others, i am just sad i will not live long enough to see this put into place.. i only have 2 of their documentaries.. the final edition and the addendum.. is there any more?? would like to watch them... for a long time i was wondering if all of the things that i am over thinking, analyzing in my head is also in someone else's head.. then a friend introduced it to me and not only that other people think the same way as i do, there is an existing movement exactly about it!! i was really surprised that we even have the exact same idea of the future of transportation (maglev theory)..

    once the ideas of the movement starts to be put into practice, i think thats the only time the we can actually see genuine improvement and we, as human beings will finally unite as one..

    but before then, we shall continue to suffer under the present state of our communities..
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    Jun 20, 2012 4:50 PM GMT
    and btw, im a sailor so i can confirm that everything they said about the stars in the sky are true and correct..we are trained to locate ourselves in the middle of the ocean using only stars as guide.. the orion's belt is always pointing towards sirius (the brightest star in the sky which is always in the east) though the sun does not really rises and sets exactly on east (090 degrees on compass). i still have not seen it myself if the sun actually do aligns to those start.. but my calculations seems to say so.. the precession of the equinoxes, that is true, today we are still basing all star calculations on the first point of aries (the ram)... the constellation cruz at the south celestial hemisphere. the death of the sun in dec 21 (we sailors call it winter solstice) the british admiralty hydrographic office tabulate every celestial movement and it can confirm that the sun actually is "born" during dec 25.. just thought it is worth mentioning.. because religions are seemed to be based on this and we are practically killing each other over it.. or at least suppressing our humanity..
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    Jun 20, 2012 4:54 PM GMT
    I watched the documentary. It was really thought provoking............
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    Jun 20, 2012 4:56 PM GMT
    I've watched both of them.

    They didn't tell me anything I didn't already know.
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    Jun 20, 2012 6:20 PM GMT
    Mikkel_Johan_Alejandro saidand btw, im a sailor so i can confirm that everything they said about the stars in the sky are true and correct..we are trained to locate ourselves in the middle of the ocean using only stars as guide.. the orion's belt is always pointing towards sirius (the brightest star in the sky which is always in the east) though the sun does not really rises and sets exactly on east (090 degrees on compass). i still have not seen it myself if the sun actually do aligns to those start.. but my calculations seems to say so.. the precession of the equinoxes, that is true, today we are still basing all star calculations on the first point of aries (the ram)... the constellation cruz at the south celestial hemisphere. the death of the sun in dec 21 (we sailors call it winter solstice) the british admiralty hydrographic office tabulate every celestial movement and it can confirm that the sun actually is "born" during dec 25.. just thought it is worth mentioning.. because religions are seemed to be based on this and we are practically killing each other over it.. or at least suppressing our humanity..


    Thanks for that caption! I think I am going to have to watch the movie again a few times because the information was potent and some of it hard for my education level to understand. But it felt right! :-)
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    Jun 20, 2012 6:45 PM GMT
    ...Don't forget to reserve, at least,10% for your-own good judgement!
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    Jun 20, 2012 9:58 PM GMT
    For some this movie is going to no doubt be hard to swallow. For others it may be old news although it is presented very well. For many though, I believe it pulls the covers on a lot of the hidden motives we have in which we have used to manipulate others with. I am liberal, but I support change for the sake of good and honesty... For the concern of others.
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    Jun 20, 2012 10:01 PM GMT
    Firebrand saidOh. You again. One day, you're all Unitarian, then Zeitgeist, then JESUS!!!!111111111111111111111 like, make up what's left of your mind brah


    Maybe he's looking for self-actualization.
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    Jun 21, 2012 12:37 PM GMT
    anti-semitism, unitarian....whats up with the name calling?? :-)
    why do we always find a reason to separate ourselves from the rest? or seclude others? does that gives us any good? does anyone benefit from conflict created by having so much divisions amongst us? and can we honestly say that we are contented at our society today? maybe some can answer yes to the last question, but only because they are in the upper echelon of our society.. how about the others? if you we are only contented because we are fine and the others are not, what kind of "humane" thinking is that?
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    Jun 21, 2012 6:53 PM GMT
    Mikkel_Johan_Alejandro saidanti-semitism, unitarian....whats up with the name calling?? :-)
    why do we always find a reason to separate ourselves from the rest? or seclude others? does that gives us any good? does anyone benefit from conflict created by having so much divisions amongst us? and can we honestly say that we are contented at our society today? maybe some can answer yes to the last question, but only because they are in the upper echelon of our society.. how about the others? if you we are only contented because we are fine and the others are not, what kind of "humane" thinking is that?


    So true. There is an unease about whether our worldly family is suffering do to our own pleasures. I for one am willing to do all I can do to help them. But part of helping them is also exterminating society's denial that there even is a problem. People these days would rather suffer for their jobs, riches, and status. Do we really care about the future generations? I really wonder if it's all a plot to convince ourselves it is okay to keep the carrot dangling over the heads until the day we die and nolonger need security. I don't have children, but still so, I owe it to my God to be just as helpful to his children as his children have been to me in this life. The purpose? Love.
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    Jun 21, 2012 7:06 PM GMT
    watch

    Zeitgeist: Moving Forward, came out last year

    Pretty good

    There's a new one called, Zeitgeist: Beyond the Pale that comes out this year.