Is the real MItt Romney still there?

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    Jun 18, 2012 12:50 AM GMT

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2012/06/16/keane/OJVpNdisQOpKbKmNGF6c8K/story.html
  • KissTheSky

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    Jun 18, 2012 3:39 AM GMT
    The premise of this article seems to be that the "good" Romney may still be in there "hiding," in spite of his all-new ultra-conservative set of policies he's adopted, reversing himself on countless issues. (Which includes his new anti-gay position, in favor of permanently establishing gay people as second-class citizens with less rights than straight people.)
    I would say that a person of integrity does not change his entire belief system -- or lie about it -- to get votes.

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    Jun 18, 2012 4:13 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidThe premise of this article seems to be that the "good" Romney may still be in there "hiding," in spite of his all-new ultra-conservative set of policies he's adopted, reversing himself on countless issues. (Which includes his new anti-gay position, in favor of permanently establishing gay people as second-class citizens with less rights than straight people.)
    I would say that a person of integrity does not change his entire belief system -- or lie about it -- to get votes.



    He's a closet liberal. Not my first choice, but given the alternative, no question he has my vote.
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    Jun 18, 2012 6:36 AM GMT
    I think it will be interesting to see the first Latter Day Saint call the White House Home, and after him America may well see it's first African American President too.

    To think America once wanted all Mormons exterminated, now they are running for President; how they have advanced.
  • GQjock

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    Jun 18, 2012 1:47 PM GMT
    Funny that the party that he represents also denies Climate Change houses most of the politicians who refute evolutionary Science and stem cell research
    And want to force women to have unnecessary medical procedures in order to make it harder for them to terminate a pregnancy

    Progress?

    Ummm Not so much
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 18, 2012 1:53 PM GMT
    KissTheSky said
    I would say that a person of integrity does not change his entire belief system -- or lie about it -- to get votes.



    So in other words, when Obama does this he's merely "evolving", but when Romney does it he is lacking in "integrity". icon_rolleyes.gif I would bet money that Romney, if elected, will govern far more moderately than he has campaigned. In fact, I would not be surprised if even as early as the debates we don't see glimmers of a softer Romney on certain social issues than he may have campaigned on in the primary.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 18, 2012 1:55 PM GMT
    GQjock said
    And want to force women to have unnecessary medical procedures in order to make it harder for them to terminate a pregnancy

    Progress?

    Ummm Not so much


    That's a matter of opinion. Many Americans are pro-life and do not support making it any easier for women to terminate a pregnancy.
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    Jun 18, 2012 1:59 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    KissTheSky said
    I would say that a person of integrity does not change his entire belief system -- or lie about it -- to get votes.



    So in other words, when Obama does this he's merely "evolving", but when Romney does it he is lacking in "integrity". icon_rolleyes.gif I would bet money that Romney, if elected, will govern far more moderately than he has campaigned. In fact, I would not be surprised if even as early as the debates we don't see glimmers of a softer Romney on certain social issues than he may have campaigned on in the primary.


    Problem IS ... is that the republican party is having an identity crisis right now
    It's being led by a bunch of KWazy people

    ie; Debt crisis of last year
    and the filibuster defacto dictatorship of no we have in Congress

    If You THINK that these people will allow any President Romney or Obama to pass anything that smells of Moderation youain't been listening to the leaders in your party my man

    The inmates are running the asylum in the republican party
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 18, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
    GQjock said
    If You THINK that these people will allow any President Romney or Obama to pass anything that smells of Moderation youain't been listening to the leaders in your party my man



    ...Please clue us in as to WHO you consider the "Leaders" of the GOP who you also deem crazy? Name some names.
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    Jun 18, 2012 2:21 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    KissTheSky said
    I would say that a person of integrity does not change his entire belief system -- or lie about it -- to get votes.



    So in other words, when Obama does this he's merely "evolving", but when Romney does it he is lacking in "integrity". icon_rolleyes.gif I would bet money that Romney, if elected, will govern far more moderately than he has campaigned. In fact, I would not be surprised if even as early as the debates we don't see glimmers of a softer Romney on certain social issues than he may have campaigned on in the primary.


    Run to the right or left in the primaries and govern from the center, except in the case of the current president. Nothing new here to see.
  • DalTX

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    Jun 18, 2012 5:52 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    KissTheSky said
    I would say that a person of integrity does not change his entire belief system -- or lie about it -- to get votes.



    So in other words, when Obama does this he's merely "evolving", but when Romney does it he is lacking in "integrity". icon_rolleyes.gif I would bet money that Romney, if elected, will govern far more moderately than he has campaigned. In fact, I would not be surprised if even as early as the debates we don't see glimmers of a softer Romney on certain social issues than he may have campaigned on in the primary.



    I'll go with "evoling" guy any day. You can embrace the flip flopper that views you as a second class citizen; hopefully someday you'll gain some self respect.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 18, 2012 6:21 PM GMT
    DalTX said<
    I'll go with "evoling" guy any day. You can embrace the flip flopper that views you as a second class citizen; hopefully someday you'll gain some self respect.


    Such a drama queen icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 18, 2012 6:22 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    DalTX said<
    I'll go with "evoling" guy any day. You can embrace the flip flopper that views you as a second class citizen; hopefully someday you'll gain some self respect.


    Such a drama queen icon_rolleyes.gif


    as I said .... the GQjock wanna be
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    Jun 18, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    DalTX said<
    I'll go with "evoling" guy any day. You can embrace the flip flopper that views you as a second class citizen; hopefully someday you'll gain some self respect.


    Such a drama queen icon_rolleyes.gif


    as I said .... the GQjock wanna be



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    Jun 18, 2012 6:52 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    freedomisntfree said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    DalTX said<
    I'll go with "evoling" guy any day. You can embrace the flip flopper that views you as a second class citizen; hopefully someday you'll gain some self respect.


    Such a drama queen icon_rolleyes.gif


    as I said .... the GQjock wanna be



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    Funny though, if we're trying to run a small business as you and I do, Romney views us as first class citizens.