Microsoft Surface

  • NerdLifter

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    Jun 19, 2012 12:55 AM GMT
    I was expecting a tablet unveiling of some kind but not both software and hardware designed by Microsoft. (Going for an integral engineering architecture eh Microsoft?) If I had the money; I would certainly buy it, but the important question is: will the market adopt it.

    Microsoft is notorious for making well built hardware and effective software but more-so for failing to capture the general public's minds and hearts. Notable exception being Xbox.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Microsoft-Surface-Tablet-Arm-Tablet-Wintel-Tablet,16030.html

    http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en/us/default.aspx

    Would be a great addition to my Xbox/Zune/Windows 8 machine/Kinect/Windows Phone 7.
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    Jun 19, 2012 1:08 AM GMT
    Microsoft finally jumped on the tablet bandwagon? The world is truly going to end this year. Well maybe not end, but it'll definitely hang and slow down till the world leaders download new updates.
  • Timbales

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    Jun 19, 2012 1:12 AM GMT
    The kickstand and keyboard integrated into the cover and pretty cool, very practical for using like a laptop.
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    Jun 19, 2012 1:21 AM GMT
    Timbales saidThe kickstand and keyboard integrated into the cover and pretty cool, very practical for using like a laptop.


    Yes, and that may be the game changer. But, what apps run on it? It will run a version of Windows 8 (probably watered down).
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    Jun 19, 2012 1:24 AM GMT
    wrestlervic said
    Timbales saidThe kickstand and keyboard integrated into the cover and pretty cool, very practical for using like a laptop.



    Yes, and that may be the game changer. But, what apps run on it? It will run a version of Windows 8 (probably watered down).



    Maybe it runs actual programs.
  • tmm6497

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    Jun 19, 2012 1:25 AM GMT
    I have to admit, this is one sexy looking piece of hardware. I'm pretty excited to see how it plays out for Microsoft.
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    Jun 19, 2012 1:28 AM GMT
    "Maybe it runs actual programs."

    So instead of getting free apps or paying a few bucks for them, you'll have to pay $200 for the MS Office suite, etc.?

    By the way, I'm still using MS Word 97. The installation discs are 3.5" floppies.
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    Jun 19, 2012 1:31 AM GMT
    wrestlervic said"Maybe it runs actual programs."

    So instead of getting free apps or paying a few bucks for them, you'll have to pay $200 for the MS Office suite, etc.?


    Rumor is, Windows 8 RT is supposed to ship with a Tablet OS version of Office included in the OS.
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    Jun 19, 2012 1:42 AM GMT
    wrestlervic said"Maybe it runs actual programs."

    So instead of getting free apps or paying a few bucks for them, you'll have to pay $200 for the MS Office suite, etc.?

    By the way, I'm still using MS Word 97. The installation discs are 3.5" floppies.


    or Adobe Photoshop or Illustrator, or Power Point, or programs that people use for work and school
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    Jun 19, 2012 2:21 AM GMT
    Me gusta!
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    Jun 19, 2012 3:05 AM GMT
    wrestlervic said
    Timbales saidThe kickstand and keyboard integrated into the cover and pretty cool, very practical for using like a laptop.


    Yes, and that may be the game changer. But, what apps run on it? It will run a version of Windows 8 (probably watered down).


    No watered down version. There are two tablets. One will run Windows 8 RT (run programs that are written in Metro only), and another version of the tablet will run Windows 8 (which will run Metro and native applications).

    http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/18/microsoft-surface-tablets-the-differences-between-rt-and-window/
  • NerdLifter

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    Jun 19, 2012 3:06 AM GMT
    Timbales said
    wrestlervic said
    Timbales saidThe kickstand and keyboard integrated into the cover and pretty cool, very practical for using like a laptop.

    Yes, and that may be the game changer. But, what apps run on it? It will run a version of Windows 8 (probably watered down).

    Maybe it runs actual programs.

    Will depend if it is Windows RT or Windows x64/x86. One will employ a regular Intel chip, the other an ARM chip.

    X86/X64 chip you can install anything on it like it was regular Windows in addition to what you chose to install for the Metro interface.

    ARM (Windows RT) the program writer must have compiled a program for ARM architecture, or else the CPU cannot execute the code.

    For the Microsoft Surface, one will have an energy efficient Intel i5, the other an ARM based CPU, which is likely going to be Tegra 3.
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    Jun 19, 2012 5:55 AM GMT
    Anything good about it will have been stolen from
    Apple and it will cost more than an Ipad, will have little resale value and have the typical sloppy, jittery user interface.
  • kiwi_nomad

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    Jun 19, 2012 7:31 AM GMT
    yes because Apple invented the wheel...

    If anything Apple just made the wheel trendy.
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    Jun 19, 2012 7:42 AM GMT
    Interesting... but I think they are recycling a catchy name that they used once-upon-a-time for a different (and forgotten) product line. If memory serves, they were promoting table devices with touch-sensitive surfaces for high-end niche applications....
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    Jun 19, 2012 7:53 AM GMT
    intensity69 saidInteresting... but I think they are recycling a catchy name that they used once-upon-a-time for a different (and forgotten) product line. If memory serves, they were promoting table devices with touch-sensitive surfaces for high-end niche applications....


    You are correct. It is now called PixelSense and still available to businesses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_PixelSense

    I think adopting the name Surface for their tablets was a good idea. It's easy to remember, one word, two syllables, and sounds slick.
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    Jun 19, 2012 12:12 PM GMT
    I am amazed at how Microsoft managed to bungle their first event that has generated excitement in years.

    Pricing? Nope.
    Release Date? Nope.
    Specs? Almost none.

    So the announcement boils down to this, Microsoft is going to release a tablet someday that will cost something and will consist of some parts.
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    Jun 19, 2012 12:17 PM GMT
    https://twitter.com/delrayser/status/214870003982405632

    "Hi! It looks like you're trying to launch a tablet after giving Apple a two-year head start. Would you like help?" - Clippy
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    Jun 19, 2012 12:18 PM GMT
    The_Gingerhead_Man saidI am amazed at how Microsoft managed to bungle their first event that has generated excitement in years.

    Pricing? Nope.
    Release Date? Nope.
    Specs? Almost none.

    So the announcement boils down to this, Microsoft is going to release a tablet someday that will cost something and will consist of some parts.


    What you view as a bungle is an industry standard. This isn't an unusual practice for manufacturers. Most "first look" press conferences don't include any marketing information outside of spec. details.
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    Jun 19, 2012 12:48 PM GMT
    Microsoft is aiming for the corporate sector not the mass consumer. If you work in a Windows environment, you know that the iPad does not play with there and is not secure, especially if iCloud is used. We support about 10 iPads in our department, and no matter how hard we try to lock down security, someone will get to on the iCloud and potentially compromise network security.

    I would love a network secure tablet and get rid of every iPad in our department!
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    Jun 19, 2012 12:51 PM GMT
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    The_Gingerhead_Man saidI am amazed at how Microsoft managed to bungle their first event that has generated excitement in years.

    Pricing? Nope.
    Release Date? Nope.
    Specs? Almost none.

    So the announcement boils down to this, Microsoft is going to release a tablet someday that will cost something and will consist of some parts.


    What you view as a bungle is an industry standard. This isn't an unusual practice for manufacturers. Most "first look" press conferences don't include any marketing information outside of spec. details.


    Because Microsoft is not alone in doing this doesn't make it any better of an idea. Microsoft has been struggling lately to get much attention around anything they are doing and I think they blew it with this. This would be somewhat forgivable if a better way hadn't been shown by the competition.

    Apple (no matter what you think of their products) has pretty much mastered product introductions. They announce new hardware complete with pricing and specs and it ships within days. Generating enthusiasm and delivering instantly is one of the many reasons they are currently handing their competition their asses.
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    Jun 19, 2012 12:55 PM GMT
    No price, no launch date, no clear idea what software will be working on it or how it will actually work, what apps would work on it or with it. Typical Microsoft trying to come at Apple years late and badly catching up. Zune anyone?

    Launch date cracks me up. This is so stupid. Show a product that does look interesting, but no idea when people might be able to touch it, use it or BUY it, welcome back to Microsofts world.
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    Jun 19, 2012 1:00 PM GMT
    Timbales saidThe kickstand and keyboard integrated into the cover and pretty cool, very practical for using like a laptop.


    If I want to use something "like" a laptop, I'll use a laptop.
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    Jun 19, 2012 1:02 PM GMT
    Zune is not bad hardware or software. Zune's failure is the result of shitty launch time, coming at the climax heading towards decline of personal mp3 players. Microsoft is relatively good at hardware, see the Xbox or Kinect as examples.

    I say this writing from my beloved MacBook Pro.

    I'll also say, writing from my beloved MacBook Pro, that the Surface (pro version) looks interesting and I'm excited to hear more. I would love to have a tablet that is also a computer and not just an enlarged smartphone. I would love to be able to plug a mouse into it and play World of Warcraft, edit images on Photoshop, or upload school documents that I can work on (Powerpoint, Office, Excel).
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    Jun 19, 2012 2:53 PM GMT
    MTNow saidZune is not bad hardware or software. Zune's failure is the result of shitty launch time, coming at the climax heading towards decline of personal mp3 players. Microsoft is relatively good at hardware, see the Xbox or Kinect as examples.

    I say this writing from my beloved MacBook Pro.

    I'll also say, writing from my beloved MacBook Pro, that the Surface (pro version) looks interesting and I'm excited to hear more. I would love to have a tablet that is also a computer and not just an enlarged smartphone. I would love to be able to plug a mouse into it and play World of Warcraft, edit images on Photoshop, or upload school documents that I can work on (Powerpoint, Office, Excel).


    I LOVED my Zune - the software was really cool, as was the hardware. I loved having music rental integrated with the music store, in a way that worked seamlessly with the device. I was really pissed off when they didn't transition to a Zune phone. Which led me to having an iPhone, which led me to having an iPad.

    This may be too little too late, but we'll see.