Openly Gay Particle Physicists and the Double-Slit Experiment

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    Jun 19, 2012 4:46 AM GMT
    You already know that subatomic particles act as waves when not observed...pretty much common knowledge among scientists and wannabe-Einsteins.

    I think it's utter bullshit. Yeah I understand that bouncing photons off electrons can cause them to change their direction and behavior. Welcome to subatomic life. Big deal. But that doesn't explain why the researchers can't figure out a way (or experiment) to explain why things with mass can act like things without mass, but only when not observed by conventional means.

    I've talked to straight particle physicists and they can't answer my question. All they can say is "we don't know."

    So, since gay dudes are smarter than straights by default (determined by my own analysis), I'm asking y'all fruity fuckers what the real answer is. It's going to be simple, and we're all gonna be like "omg I already knew that!" I know this much; but what the fuck is the real answer?
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    Jun 19, 2012 4:54 AM GMT
    I will admit that when I saw the topic my face lit up like it was Christmas. I was expecting a really inappropriate physics joke though, and am now coping with the disappointment.
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    Jun 19, 2012 4:55 AM GMT
    BTW, remind me not to get drunk and post scienerdistic stuff in the wrong forum too often.

    This should be in the Nerd forum. Oops I meant Science and Technology.
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    Jun 19, 2012 4:56 AM GMT
    principal0 saidI will admit that when I saw the topic my face lit up like it was Christmas. I was expecting a really inappropriate physics joke though, and am now coping with the disappointment.
    Physics jokes are kept out of the public eye, unless you happen to be at the same bar as the person telling the joke.
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    Jun 19, 2012 4:56 AM GMT
    And just as drunk.
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    Jun 19, 2012 4:57 AM GMT
    You tempt fate. I'm an inch away from telling a physics joke.
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    Jun 19, 2012 5:25 AM GMT
    principal0 saidYou tempt fate. I'm an inch away from telling a physics joke.
    PM it. Most dumbass fuckers here won't get it anyway. icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 19, 2012 5:40 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    principal0 saidYou tempt fate. I'm an inch away from telling a physics joke.
    PM it. Most dumbass fuckers here won't get it anyway. icon_lol.gif

    Try us! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 19, 2012 5:49 AM GMT
    Two fermions walk into a bar. One orders a drink. The other says 'I'll have what he's having.'
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    Jun 19, 2012 5:51 AM GMT
    principal0 saidTwo fermions walk into a bar. One orders a drink. The other says 'I'll have what he's having.'

    Well damn... guess that makes me a dumbass fucker. icon_cry.gif
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    Jun 19, 2012 5:57 AM GMT
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    principal0 saidTwo fermions walk into a bar. One orders a drink. The other says 'I'll have what he's having.'

    Well damn... guess that makes me a dumbass fucker. icon_cry.gif


    That's harsh - don't say that. Here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_exclusion_principle

    The joke is that they can't occupy the same state as a matter of physics, so he couldn't order the same thing.
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    Jun 19, 2012 6:06 AM GMT
    principal0 said
    trampolini said
    principal0 saidTwo fermions walk into a bar. One orders a drink. The other says 'I'll have what he's having.'

    Well damn... guess that makes me a dumbass fucker. icon_cry.gif


    That's harsh - don't say that. Here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_exclusion_principle

    The joke is that they can't occupy the same state as a matter of physics, so he couldn't order the same thing.

    Thanks for the heads-up mate. I'm still confused as to how they both managed to be in the same bar at the same time...? icon_razz.gif
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    Jun 19, 2012 6:11 AM GMT
    trampolini said
    principal0 said
    trampolini said
    principal0 saidTwo fermions walk into a bar. One orders a drink. The other says 'I'll have what he's having.'

    Well damn... guess that makes me a dumbass fucker. icon_cry.gif


    That's harsh - don't say that. Here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_exclusion_principle

    The joke is that they can't occupy the same state as a matter of physics, so he couldn't order the same thing.

    Thanks for the heads-up mate. I'm still confused as to how they both managed to be in the same bar at the same time...? icon_razz.gif


    And he comes out swinging!

  • Havasu

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    Jun 19, 2012 6:16 AM GMT
    If you're alone on a country road and turning the corner, not a car or person in miles, do you use your turn signal? If you believe that people are here as a way to experience the universe in a tangible way, that it isn't an accident, that the universe has its own brand of consciousness that permeates into the human existence, then there is no reason for "quarks" or energy to solidify into solid reality if no one is observing, let alone interacting with that solid reality. The universe does solidify everything our existence needs to say, keep the planets spinning and the ground in place. So it's not like a forest would disappear because there are no people around to see it. There is a baseline of reality, but people have the ability to create and expand that reality. The universe doesn't waste energy where it isn't needed. So if there are no people observing those particles, there is nothing happening beyond the set baseline.

    This sounds like complete nonsense unless you're into "quantum theory" philosophy books. But that's my personal interpretation. And now everyone thinks I'm on crack.
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    Jun 19, 2012 6:19 AM GMT
    Havasu saidAnd now everyone thinks I'm on crack.

    Or LSD maybe, but that's neither here nor there. icon_wink.gif

    Note to self: must stop submitting forum thread replies before I reveal the true extent of my ignorance...
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    Jun 19, 2012 6:20 AM GMT
    Does no one else see the parallel between the double-slit apparatus and a line of glory holes. I think gay physicists will naturally think "of course the particles want to try both the holes..." icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 19, 2012 6:25 AM GMT
    principal0 said
    trampolini said
    principal0 saidTwo fermions walk into a bar. One orders a drink. The other says 'I'll have what he's having.'

    Well damn... guess that makes me a dumbass fucker. icon_cry.gif


    That's harsh - don't say that. Here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_exclusion_principle

    The joke is that they can't occupy the same state as a matter of physics, so he couldn't order the same thing.
    As long as Paul and Pauli lift their glasses to drink at least a billi-trillisecond apart, they can be considered as having different drinks, even though the perceptive mind would observe them as having the same drink at the same time.
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    Jun 19, 2012 6:28 AM GMT
    Havasu saidIf you're alone on a country road and turning the corner, not a car or person in miles, do you use your turn signal? If you believe that people are here as a way to experience the universe in a tangible way, that it isn't an accident, that the universe has its own brand of consciousness that permeates into the human existence, then there is no reason for "quarks" or energy to solidify into solid reality if no one is observing, let alone interacting with that solid reality. The universe does solidify everything our existence needs to say, keep the planets spinning and the ground in place. So it's not like a forest would disappear because there are no people around to see it. There is a baseline of reality, but people have the ability to create and expand that reality. The universe doesn't waste energy where it isn't needed. So if there are no people observing those particles, there is nothing happening beyond the set baseline.

    This sounds like complete nonsense unless you're into "quantum theory" philosophy books. But that's my personal interpretation. And now everyone thinks I'm on crack.
    Crack users would never be able to figure out the mumbly jumbly you just spouted from your nerdy-ass fingertips.

    But if it makes you feel better, that stupid shit you just typed was never there as long as everyone clicks ignore (ie. nobody observes).
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    Jun 19, 2012 7:00 AM GMT
    since when do things with mass act like things that have no mass?
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    Jun 19, 2012 7:11 AM GMT
    UglyAmerican saidsince when do things with mass act like things that have no mass?
    Things with no mass are said (and shown through experiments) to act as waves.

    Waves are considered to have no mass.

    However, if you ask any surfer, every wave has enough mass to knock you off the board and onto your ass.

    That's the whole point of this thread.
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    Jun 19, 2012 7:43 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidYou already know that subatomic particles act as waves when not observed...pretty much common knowledge among scientists and wannabe-Einsteins.

    I think it's utter bullshit. Yeah I understand that bouncing photons off electrons can cause them to change their direction and behavior. Welcome to subatomic life. Big deal. But that doesn't explain why the researchers can't figure out a way (or experiment) to explain why things with mass can act like things without mass, but only when not observed by conventional means.

    I've talked to straight particle physicists and they can't answer my question. All they can say is "we don't know."

    So, since gay dudes are smarter than straights by default (determined by my own analysis), I'm asking y'all fruity fuckers what the real answer is. It's going to be simple, and we're all gonna be like "omg I already knew that!" I know this much; but what the fuck is the real answer?
    I don't know physics like you guys do, but this shit makes me happy and hard.icon_twisted.gificon_twisted.gificon_twisted.gif
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    Jun 19, 2012 8:08 AM GMT
    A photon checks into a hotel and the staff asks if they take any luggage up to the room and photon replies "no thanks, I'm travelling light".
  • Beeftastic

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    Jun 19, 2012 8:36 AM GMT
    Nah, the wave form of the particles is just shy.
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    Jun 19, 2012 8:39 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidBTW, remind me not to get drunk and post scienerdistic stuff in the wrong forum too often.

    This should be in the Nerd forum. Oops I meant Science and Technology.


    Q. Question why is it OK for liberal drunks to be drunk and inappropriate on RJ? Or is it just another one of those double standard thing like a liberal can be forgiven for any sin but I Conservative can not be forgiven for anything, and if there is no dirt on them they are bastardised by the left.
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    Jun 19, 2012 8:58 AM GMT
    A physicist, an engineer, and a statistician were out game hunting. The engineer spied a bear in the distance, so they got a little closer. "Let me take the first shot!" said the engineer, who missed the bear by three metres to the left. "You're incompetent! Let me try" insisted the physicist, who then proceeded to miss by three metres to the right. "Ooh, we *got* him!!" said the statistician.