Where did the 'gay lisp' come from?

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    Jun 20, 2012 1:02 AM GMT
    Is it a recent thing or have many gays always talked like that? I can't imagine in the medieval days men talking like Perez Hilton. When I came out to my parents the first thing they said was "you don't talk gay". So Im just wondering where did the gay talk come from?
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:05 AM GMT
    I honestly have never met a gay guy with this so-called "gay lisp". Certainly I've met plenty of guys with high-pitched voices or who speak with a bit of high intonation, but not an actual habit of lisping.
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:06 AM GMT
    pocketnico saidI honestly have never met a gay guy with this so-called "gay lisp". Certainly I've met plenty of guys with high-pitched voices or who speak with a bit of high intonation, but not an actual habit of lisping.


    It may not be a real lisp.. but its just a term used for guys who talk in a feminine manner.
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:07 AM GMT
    I came in here expecting a punch line.
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:07 AM GMT
    RuggedRanger15 said
    pocketnico saidI honestly have never met a gay guy with this so-called "gay lisp". Certainly I've met plenty of guys with high-pitched voices or who speak with a bit of high intonation, but not an actual habit of lisping.


    It may not be a real lisp.. but its just a term used for guys who talk in a feminine manner.


    You should check this out icon_smile.gif

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender_linguistics

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_lisp
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:08 AM GMT
    Media progression of this stereotype (that has been around in America before it was even legal to be gay) until some of the younger ones adapt it to "fit in" to a stereotypical group. Like some people wish to fit into the preps, nerds, jocks, gangsters, emos, etc. It's all about finding oneself in the end. But, the majority do NOT talk like this.
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:09 AM GMT
    Can't say I know and wasn't everyone in "Medieval days" gay?

    I do find it odd when an older gentle man comes out and all of a sudden their voice changes.
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:10 AM GMT
    Josh1992 saidMedia progression of this stereotype (that has been around in America before it was even legal to be gay) until some of the younger ones adapt it to "fit in" to a stereotypical group. Like some people wish to fit into the preps, nerds, jocks, gangsters, emos, etc. It's all about finding oneself in the end. But, the majority do NOT talk like this.


    I dated a guy who didnt sound like it at first but after a few months he started to change.. was really weird. I couldnt handle it icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:11 AM GMT
    Iceblink saidI came in here expecting a punch line.


    I know right...and hoping RuggedRanger had a new pic.
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:11 AM GMT
    dustin_K_tx saidCan't say I know and wasn't everyone in "Medieval days" gay?

    I do find it odd when an older gentle man comes out and all of a sudden their voice changes.


    You dont know any gay lispy knights?
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:11 AM GMT
    RuggedRanger15 said
    Josh1992 saidMedia progression of this stereotype (that has been around in America before it was even legal to be gay) until some of the younger ones adapt it to "fit in" to a stereotypical group. Like some people wish to fit into the preps, nerds, jocks, gangsters, emos, etc. It's all about finding oneself in the end. But, the majority do NOT talk like this.


    I dated a guy who didnt sound like it at first but after a few months he started to change.. was really weird. I couldnt handle it icon_lol.gif


    Haha that's funny! when I first realized I was gay I was afraid my voice was going to change. How uninformed I was. I have a "radio announcer" voice if I must say so myself :-D

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    dustin_K_tx saidCan't say I know and wasn't everyone in "Medieval days" gay?

    I do find it odd when an older gentle man comes out and all of a sudden their voice changes.


    You dont know any gay lispy knights?


    Gay lispy knights? My body liked when you said that. I think I found a new fetish. Now time to find a gay lisp knight community somewhere around here...
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:13 AM GMT
    RuggedRanger15 said
    dustin_K_tx saidCan't say I know and wasn't everyone in "Medieval days" gay?

    I do find it odd when an older gentle man comes out and all of a sudden their voice changes.


    You dont know any gay lispy knights?


    Just two waiters at Medieval Times in Dallas. Don't think that counts though.
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:14 AM GMT
    Maybe you're talking about guys from Spain since the Castilian accent sounds "lispy" and rather harsh to Latin Americans icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 20, 2012 1:17 AM GMT
    dustin_K_tx said
    RuggedRanger15 said
    dustin_K_tx saidCan't say I know and wasn't everyone in "Medieval days" gay?

    I do find it odd when an older gentle man comes out and all of a sudden their voice changes.


    You dont know any gay lispy knights?


    Just two waiters at Medieval Times in Dallas. Don't think that counts though.


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    Jun 20, 2012 2:31 AM GMT
    pocketnico saidMaybe you're talking about guys from Spain since the Castilian accent sounds "lispy" and rather harsh to Latin Americans icon_wink.gif


    Are you serious? Have you ever been to a big city. The lispy "S" sounds are everywhere; you can here it a block away. It's not the same as a feminine voice, but the two usually go together.

    Some straight guys have the lisp, but it's much less common.

    I've heard in other languages, like Spanish, there is a distinct gay way of pronouncing certain consonants.

    I suspect its partly from birth since so many gay men have the lisp from all over the country (e.g., having lived in Miami, NYC, Toronto, LA and Seattle, I've heard it everywhere).
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    Jun 20, 2012 2:34 AM GMT
    I think some people do it, just as someone else stated, to fit in or be 'cute.' Although to me there is nothing appealing about that and only a turn off. Of course there are some guys who just naturally have a more feminine voice but not as many as you would think.
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    Jun 20, 2012 2:35 AM GMT
    The whole lisp thing is ridiculous - I can only think of one gay guy I know that speaks with a lisp and that's out of hundreds of people. It is bull crap.
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    Jun 20, 2012 2:40 AM GMT
    Someone did a TON of helium one night, then fucked a girl and she had a baby. That baby is the originator of the lisp.
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    Jun 20, 2012 2:44 AM GMT
    I'm just throwing this out there as I'm by no means a linguistics expert or anything just something I thought:

    Some gay man might identify (whether it's because it's because they are both attracted to men or the increased estrogen in a homosexual man's brain - I don't know) more with their female counterparts and so growing up, they adopt their feminine mannerisms. Just my theory anyway.
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    Jun 20, 2012 2:49 AM GMT
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    A lisp is a speech impediment.

    I can speak very clearly however I have a slight lisp on S words. It is not that noticeable but it is evident, especially when I speak in a quick manner, but also the way you talk affects it.

    Like for me, when I speak they say "I talk with my tongue" a.k.a. meaning i move my tongue when I speak and it touches the roof of my mouth and makes the "lispy" noise when I speak.

    However certain speech classes can change that,


    A lisp like every other stereotype is not to all, and all who have it are not the same.

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    Jun 20, 2012 3:04 AM GMT
    In many countries in Europe from the Middle Ages up to the Romantic Period, a lisp and an effeminate manner were signs of nobility and royal breeding and were encouraged. Possibly it was a way to make a larger difference between common people and nobility. Kind of like the way long manicured nails represented nobility because you couldn't do manual labor with them.

    I don't hear much of a gay lisp in speech anymore. It's a lot rarer than it used to be. Try putting on a wig and lipstick and not lisping!

    I think as gayness becomes more mainstreamed, the lisp is receeding somewhat.

    Most gay lisps don't bother me, some are rather cute. The ones that do have more to do with my dislike of the person aspirating.

    To paraphrase some gay movie: whats the big deal about a few extra S's?
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    Jun 20, 2012 3:06 AM GMT
    RuggedRanger15 saidWhere did the 'gay lisp' come from?
    From swallowing too much cum. It coats your tongue and vocal chords, then dries and impedes your speech.
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    Jun 20, 2012 3:21 AM GMT
    Strangely, when I try to imitate a stereotypical gay voice for a laugh, typically with gay friends, what comes out of my mouth is... a 1950s New Jersey accent! Except it's heavy on overemphasis of words used for effect, with exaggerated up-and-down changes in volume. This to me is more the gay voice than one with a lisp, which I seldom hear in the community.
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    Jun 20, 2012 3:23 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidStrangely, when I try to imitate a stereotypical gay voice for a laugh, typically with gay friends, what comes out of my mouth is... a 1950s New Jersey accent! Except it's heavy on overemphasis of words used for effect, with exaggerated up-and-down changes in volume. This to me is more the gay voice than one with a lisp, which I seldom hear in the community.
    You just don't notice it when you hear it cause you're too busy eye-fucking the hot dudes. Kinda like me. icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 20, 2012 3:24 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    RuggedRanger15 saidWhere did the 'gay lisp' come from?
    From swallowing too much cum. It coats your tongue and vocal chords, then dries and impedes your speech.


    good thing i dont swallow icon_cool.gif