What should the punishment be for the four delinquents who verbally assaulted the elderly bus monitor???

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    Jun 21, 2012 9:36 PM GMT
    I'd seriously be interested in what guys think about this. I'll go first:
    Two years of work cleaning up weeds and litter along the highways, supervised by their parents.

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    Suspension from school - and two years of summer school at a continuation school.

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    Mopping floors at the Juvenile Hall for 50 straight Saturdays.

    That's all I've got. What do other people think?
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    Jun 21, 2012 9:37 PM GMT
    Deportation to a North Korean labor camp? icon_rolleyes.gificon_question.gif
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:03 PM GMT
    ALL the above!
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:07 PM GMT
    Probably in school suspension, the worst kind of suspension. You just sit in a room watched by a teacher and you can't talk or sleep. She should've done something or said something if she was a bus monitor. WTF is she there for if not to keep the kids from misbehaving and keep the kids safe? She didn't even stand up for herself.
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:13 PM GMT
    I would think first "what's the lesson we want those kids to learn?" Then I would consider what punishment would best inculcate that lesson.

    So perhaps the lesson is to be sensitive to others and treat them well...or in the words of the golden rule "Treat them as you would want to be treated."

    How about a weekend of shame, walking in the mall wearing a sandwich board with "I bullied Karen" on one side and "I need to learn how to treat people." on the other?

    I bet they would get a lot of comments from people in the mall. Here ya go... "one of the highest volume shopping centers in the country, The Mall at Greece " But there would have to be police presence to protect them. They really could get hurt.
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:16 PM GMT
    Profile saidProbably in school suspension, the worst kind of suspension. You just sit in a room watched by a teacher and you can't talk or sleep. She should've done something or said something if she was a bus monitor. WTF is she there for if not to keep the kids from misbehaving and keep the kids safe? She didn't even stand up for herself.

    Seriously, dude, what was she to do? Yell back at those kids. That wouldnt have done a bit of good. She gave them a great example of strength in the face to get adversity...not letting the other guy call the shots.
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:19 PM GMT
    I wonder if the bus driver knew what was going on? If they did, shame on them for not saying something or driving back to the school.
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:22 PM GMT
    BlackCat90 saidI wonder if the bus driver knew what was going on? If they did, shame on them for not saying something or driving back to the school.

    How could the bus driver NOT know that that was going on! I was wondering why the driver didnt stop the bus.
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:24 PM GMT
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:24 PM GMT
    I'm all for slapping the little sh*ts upside their heads; but I'm old school. icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:26 PM GMT
    Caslon19000 said
    Profile saidProbably in school suspension, the worst kind of suspension. You just sit in a room watched by a teacher and you can't talk or sleep. She should've done something or said something if she was a bus monitor. WTF is she there for if not to keep the kids from misbehaving and keep the kids safe? She didn't even stand up for herself.

    Seriously, dude, what was she to do? Yell back at those kids. That wouldnt have done a bit of good. She gave them a great example of strength in the face to get adversity...not letting the other guy call the shots.



    She just sat there and cried... The kids were vicious, but she gave them a reaction. At least she had something good come of this, I thinking she is gonna get some money.
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:27 PM GMT
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:30 PM GMT
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:43 PM GMT
    They should be shown what bullying does to people. They should meet with families who have lost love ones to bullying, whether by suicide or whether they were murdered. They should have lunch with the gay kid who just lost an eye. Maybe Karen can use some of her money to take them on a field trip to Auschwitz.

    They can report their findings during assembly.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 22, 2012 2:23 AM GMT
    I think they should be assigned to separate Old Folks home or assisted living facility for 8 straight weekends where they are required to observe, help, and learn from the elderly there. Maybe then they will gain a little respect for the elderly.
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    Jun 22, 2012 2:25 AM GMT
    A beating in front of everyone in their school
  • bradsmith

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    Jun 22, 2012 2:29 AM GMT
    First, I think their parents need to take some responsibility as well...haven't heard a peep from them.

    Second, they should have to perform community service by volunteering in a retirement home for 3-6 months.

    Third, they should then relate their experiences with the above to the entire school body and apologize publicly for their appalling behavior.
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    Jun 22, 2012 2:32 AM GMT
    Profile saidProbably in school suspension, the worst kind of suspension. You just sit in a room watched by a teacher and you can't talk or sleep. She should've done something or said something if she was a bus monitor. WTF is she there for if not to keep the kids from misbehaving and keep the kids safe? She didn't even stand up for herself.

    I have a feeling that if those kids had been abusing another student she would have been on it. You learn to pick your battles with children. She was probably doing a better job of ignoring them than it seems.
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    Jun 22, 2012 2:32 AM GMT
    bradsmith saidFirst, I think their parents need to take some responsibility as well...haven't heard a peep from them.

    Second, they should have to perform community service by volunteering in a retirement home for 3-6 months.

    Third, they should then relate their experiences with the above to the entire school body and apologize publicly for their appalling behavior.
    Actually one parent has gone on camera for CBS today.. he is appalled at his sons behavior and has plans! The school district super is figuring out how to deal with these students.. ALL have been identified. The police chief also had words for them today.

    This is NOT the first encounter with elder abuse she has endured by students either!
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    Jun 22, 2012 2:35 AM GMT
    Agree with the OP recommendations. Also, if it is prosecuted, the parents need to be involved in whatever counseling or other remedial programs are prescribed.
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    Jun 22, 2012 2:35 AM GMT
    I have a co-worker who says if, at the beginning of the school year, you bring the meanest, most troublesome student up to the stage at an assembly and shoot the fucker the rest of the students will behave for the rest of the year. These kids need to be presented at an assembly in front of their fellow students.
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    Jun 22, 2012 2:42 AM GMT
    CrankyMcBadass said
    CuriousJockAZ saidI think they should be assigned to separate Old Folks home or assisted living facility for 8 straight weekends where they are required to observe, help, and learn from the elderly there. Maybe then they will gain a little respect for the elderly.

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    Jun 22, 2012 2:42 AM GMT
    Coach_Mike saidI have a co-worker who says if, at the beginning of the school year, you bring the meanest, most troublesome student up to the stage at an assembly and shoot the fucker the rest of the students will behave for the rest of the year. These kids need to be presented at an assembly in front of their fellow students.

    I know a guy who grew up in Singapore. One kid in his class did something, forget, maybe stole something. They had a assembly of all the students, and on stage they cained him. Took him away in a stretcher.
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    Jun 22, 2012 2:45 AM GMT
    I don't know what punishment they should receive, but whatever it is, it should be enforced. These kids obviously had no fear about the consequences of recording their actions and posting MULTIPLE videos. I'm sure they've been threatened with punishment many times without it really being implemented.

    She's getting criticism for not doing anything about it, but I'd be willing to be she's tried before and nothing has changed. It's probably the same with the bush driver too, which is why they needed an extra monitor in the first place.