BMW X1- any thoughts?

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    Jun 22, 2012 10:06 PM GMT
    Looking to replace my 15 yr old Honda CRV. Would like to upgrade a bit since I (obviously) keep my cars a long time. I really love my CRV, but need a change. Been researching BMW X1 (soon to be sold in US), BMW X3, Audi Q3.

    If I can't rationalize the incremental cost, I may also just go right back to the CRV.

    So all you car guys- give me your advice...
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    Jun 23, 2012 12:50 AM GMT
    In my opinion if you're looking at an X1 you might as well look at the new Ford Escape. The Escape is a little bigger (not 100% sure but almost positive) both offered with 2.0 turbo 4 cylinders. Granted, the Escape wont be any where anywhere near as prestigious as any BMW, but I think it would be a very good choice.
    If you must go with a German SUV, go with the X3 because it is proven to be a very good vehicle, or the Q5 since it will have the best interior in the class.
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    Jun 23, 2012 12:53 AM GMT
    I am the biggest BMW fan boi. I am on my third one. But honestly, I would say pass. In the realm of an SUV, I dont see the point of paying the BMW premium. With a BMW you are buying the handling and performance. Both of which are not found in an SUV. Unless you are getting an M series version...which is a huge waste of money.

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    Jun 23, 2012 12:56 AM GMT
    it depends on what your goal is since the CR-V and BMW/Audi are in two different price classes. Even the new Ford Escape is going to cost a bit more than the current model.

    If I wanted a reasonably priced, good crossover, the choice would be between the soon-to-come new Hyundai Santa Fe and the CR-V. nice styling on both and good quality. The new Escapes interior is just too, "designy" for my tastes and the exterior just doesn't do much for me.

    If it were in the higher price class, my choices would be the new Acura RDX, the BMW X3, the Audi A5 or the Volvo XC60. The Volvo wins the exterior design hands down. But I really like the new RDX and the reviews have been very favorable.
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    Jun 23, 2012 1:57 AM GMT
    I LOVE BMWs. However...

    If you really want an X1, wait for the next generation. I bought a first gen 120i and it was the biggest lemon around.

    That said, there are much better SUVs out there. I'd look at what Volkswagon have got out at the moment, and possibly even Range Rover (I'd go an Evoque over an X1). Nissan have some ones too.
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    Jun 23, 2012 1:59 AM GMT
    Ehhhhh.....not a huge fan of it, at that point you are paying for the absolute base, entry level BMW vehicle and you'd be better off buying a top-of-the-line non-German car.
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:07 AM GMT
    My girlfriend at work is getting the X1 -- she pestered me all day about it, asking my opinion. I told her I thought it was cute, b/c I knew her mind was made up and that's what she wanted to hear. But honestly -- not a big fan. Although, I will say, I like the fact that it's 4-door. And the price seems right. If you like it, go for it. I like the Nissan Rogue better...I think it's a little taller than the X1
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:14 AM GMT
    Are you fans of BMW because they are superior vehicles..or cause of the BMW name and the 'so-called' status that goes along with them?
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:16 AM GMT
    Unless you're going for just the brand name , I'd skip any luxury SUV. Get another CRV. The new models are very well equipped and offer some luxury feel.
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:16 AM GMT
    Being partial to Volvo myself, I would seriously look at the XC60, though the Volkswagen Touraeg is one of the best options for a European SUV; It is tough, built well, and offers a very nice diesel engine option if you so choose.
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:17 AM GMT
    hairyandym saidAre you fans of BMW because they are superior vehicles..or cause of the BMW name and the 'so-called' status that goes along with them?


    Some of them ARE superior vehicles, absolutely. If he were looking at the X5, I would absolutely say go for it - it's a great car, it drives well, and is well appointed. But yeah, I do think when people go for the 1-series, or the X1...it's about driving a BMW, and I think that is silly....I'd take a fully loaded CRV over a base X1 any day of the week.
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:22 AM GMT
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    hairyandym saidAre you fans of BMW because they are superior vehicles..or cause of the BMW name and the 'so-called' status that goes along with them?


    Some of them ARE superior vehicles, absolutely. If he were looking at the X5, I would absolutely say go for it - it's a great car, it drives well, and is well appointed. But yeah, I do think when people go for the 1-series, or the X1...it's about driving a BMW, and I think that is silly....I'd take a fully loaded CRV over a base X1 any day of the week.


    the X5 is a decent SUV, but it does come at a premium price... And i do like the 6 series... but again, cha-ching!!! I must admit, the big 6X (??) cross over is an awesome piece of machinery... but totally useless... IMO (but id take one in a fuckin heartbeat!!) icon_twisted.gificon_twisted.gif
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:23 AM GMT
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    hairyandym saidAre you fans of BMW because they are superior vehicles..or cause of the BMW name and the 'so-called' status that goes along with them?


    Some of them ARE superior vehicles, absolutely. If he were looking at the X5, I would absolutely say go for it - it's a great car, it drives well, and is well appointed. But yeah, I do think when people go for the 1-series, or the X1...it's about driving a BMW, and I think that is silly....I'd take a fully loaded CRV over a base X1 any day of the week.


    the X5 is a decent SUV, but it does come at a premium price... And i do like the 6 series... but again, cha-ching!!! I must admit, the big 6X (??) cross over is an awesome piece of machinery... but totally useless... IMO (but id take one in a fuckin heartbeat!!) icon_twisted.gificon_twisted.gif


    I mean, yeah...it is a BMW, it's always going to come at a premium price. You can justify it by saying you are into the mechanics or the pedigree of the car...but at the end of the day, one some level you are paying for the fact that it is a BMW.

    If I were into SUV's I'd probably trade my car for one
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:25 AM GMT
    I've got no room to judge. I walk everywhere; though I occasionally get rides to/from work in a BMW. Not the same if you don't own it.icon_neutral.gif
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:31 AM GMT
    If you go with an X3 get it with the dual turbos! Otherwise, just stick with a CRV.
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:38 AM GMT
    hairyandym saidAre you fans of BMW because they are superior vehicles..or cause of the BMW name and the 'so-called' status that goes along with them?

    For me, I love the styling. I think they are some of the most visually beautiful cars on the road. When they work (yes, Im still bitter about my 120i..) they are great to drive and perform very well. I don't give a stuff about status. I like cars. I spend alot of time in mine driving, so I want to drive something that has everything I want and something I like the look of and performs well.
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:41 AM GMT
    the x1 if fugly... please do not drive one of these around
    check out what its competition is offering
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:43 AM GMT
    I have seen the Canadians bring their X1's down here and they look like hatchbacks. However, they seem designed well.

    Unfortunately BMW is infamous for their high maintenance costs, stiff / tank like steering - which some people loathe. BMW always wants you to bring the car back to get checked up and I know people who have constant problems with their cars and they never went back to the brand afterwords.

    I would suggest to look more into the Audi Q3 because I have only heard great things for Audi and their resale value is expected to reach Lexus status in the future.
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    Jun 23, 2012 6:42 AM GMT
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    hairyandym saidAre you fans of BMW because they are superior vehicles..or cause of the BMW name and the 'so-called' status that goes along with them?


    Some of them ARE superior vehicles, absolutely. If he were looking at the X5, I would absolutely say go for it - it's a great car, it drives well, and is well appointed. But yeah, I do think when people go for the 1-series, or the X1...it's about driving a BMW, and I think that is silly....I'd take a fully loaded CRV over a base X1 any day of the week.


    Mark is right on the money with this assessment. Could not agree more. Though I probably could justify the X3, the X1 just seems like a nonsensical product to me, as does the 1Series. The styling of the X1/1Series is clumsy and unattractive and the usable room is just so limiting. It's not worth the price, IMO.

    And even a fully loaded CRV would still not cost as much as a base X1, I don't believe.
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    Jun 23, 2012 6:52 AM GMT
    Have to agree with the plethora of comments against the X1, I drive a 325 but if I wanted an SUV I'd go for the Volvo X60, check one out, far superior to the X1 in every way!
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    Jun 23, 2012 6:55 AM GMT
    kt8320 saidLooking to replace my 15 yr old Honda CRV. Would like to upgrade a bit since I (obviously) keep my cars a long time. I really love my CRV, but need a change. Been researching BMW X1 (soon to be sold in US), BMW X3, Audi Q3.

    If I can't rationalize the incremental cost, I may also just go right back to the CRV.

    So all you car guys- give me your advice...


    Yes, just a tiny bit more expensive icon_lol.gif but well worth it: BMW X5M

    http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/mseries/x5m/2012/showroom/design/index.html

    And yeah it has more power than the E60 M5 in case you were wondering
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    Jun 23, 2012 6:56 AM GMT
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    kt8320 saidLooking to replace my 15 yr old Honda CRV. Would like to upgrade a bit since I (obviously) keep my cars a long time. I really love my CRV, but need a change. Been researching BMW X1 (soon to be sold in US), BMW X3, Audi Q3.

    If I can't rationalize the incremental cost, I may also just go right back to the CRV.

    So all you car guys- give me your advice...


    Yes, just a tiny bit more expensive icon_lol.gif but well worth it: BMW X5M

    http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/mseries/x5m/2012/showroom/design/index.html

    And yeah it has more power than the E60 M5 in case you were wondering


    Uhm the X1 is like 30k...the X5M is nearly 90k.....that's three times more expensive...
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    Jun 23, 2012 8:34 AM GMT
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    tennesseetexan said
    kt8320 saidLooking to replace my 15 yr old Honda CRV. Would like to upgrade a bit since I (obviously) keep my cars a long time. I really love my CRV, but need a change. Been researching BMW X1 (soon to be sold in US), BMW X3, Audi Q3.

    If I can't rationalize the incremental cost, I may also just go right back to the CRV.

    So all you car guys- give me your advice...


    Yes, just a tiny bit more expensive icon_lol.gif but well worth it: BMW X5M

    http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/mseries/x5m/2012/showroom/design/index.html

    And yeah it has more power than the E60 M5 in case you were wondering


    Uhm the X1 is like 30k...the X5M is nearly 90k.....that's three times more expensive...


    It was a joke. I would go with a new CRV, unless you think you've been balling and can afford to shell out a larger sum, or make larger regular payments, for a BMW, Audi, etc. Also keep in mind that the Audi and BMW WILL be more expensive to service, which is a cost. As far as I've heard from people I know who own them, the CRV's are extremely reliable. They've been hugely popular all over the world for years, and parts and servicing are as easy to get as fem guys.

    Then you have to think about retirement, opportunity costs... an' all that

    So the question is: what REALLY is the premium you want to pay to have a car that is more intricately designed and manufactured, tailored to a smaller group of buyers, but only marginally more functional?

    Now, if it were me, I would probably get the new X1, though it's up in the air since its not even out yet as you said. If I wanted to compromise it'd be a gently used X3 with some options I think.
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    Jun 23, 2012 3:39 PM GMT
    Thanks guys for some great suggestions. I'll definitely look at all these options.

    I think I must feel like a guy who's been happily married for 15 years, but is still being tempted by the prospect of a sexier, more exciting new partner.

    In the end, I'm not a huge car guy, and rationalizing the premium for the upgrade in class may be tough to get over. So good chance, i may head right back to the CRV. If I do go with the CRV, gosh darn it, I'm getting it in a different color!!
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    Jun 23, 2012 3:41 PM GMT
    kt8320 saidThanks guys for some great suggestions. I'll definitely look at all these options.

    I think I must feel like a guy who's been happily married for 15 years, but is still being tempted by the prospect of a sexier, more exciting new partner.

    In the end, I'm not a huge car guy, and rationalizing the premium for the upgrade in class may be tough to get over. So good chance, i may head right back to the CRV. If I do go with the CRV, gosh darn it, I'm getting it in a different color!!



    You could look into a CPO X3 or X5 if you wanted to go in that direction. A 2009 X5 would probably be around 30-35k.