Dream journal

  • Splendidus_1

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    Jun 23, 2012 12:52 AM GMT
    Since I was a kid, I remember dreaming every night! Sometimes I'd wake and forget about it 5 minutes later, and some dreams are kept in my memory till today -- mostly nightmares. Nowadays, I can keep memory of the dream I had the night before easily - this meaning, throughout the day at least, haha.

    My philosophy teacher once explained that we have different phases in sleep: the ones where you're lightly sleeping, and the ones where you're in a deep sleeping state. Easy to guess that you dream on the former, while your brain is partially more active! You know those dreams where you're at one scenario, and out of the blue you change to a completely different scenario (for those who can remember what they dreamed)? That means you went into the deep sleeping state between two light ones. I just find this topic very interesting, excuse the randomness!

    So, what about you guys? Can you keep memory of your dreams?

    Today, for instance, I dreamt that I was at a zombie appocalypse (I lost count of my zombie dreams -- love them). But this time, instead of the usual endless running, I had a blast with a nail shooting gun! I kept head shooting them (it felt like I was playing a very realistic videogame, since I had to aim while they ran into me), it was great! But it started to get too much crowded, so I forced myself to wake -- didn't want to have to deal with that, haha.
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    Jun 23, 2012 12:57 AM GMT
    A common misconception is that other people will find our dreams at least half as fascinating as they are to us when we tell them about them.

    They don't.
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    Jun 23, 2012 1:12 AM GMT
    Splendidus_1 saidso I forced myself to wake.


    Does that you say you forced yourself awake mean that were aware you were dreaming a dream while you were dreaming that dream?
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:07 AM GMT
    Ariodante saidA common misconception is that other people will find our dreams at least half as fascinating as they are to us when we tell them about them.

    They don't.


    Noted -- but I was actually asking if you guys could keep memory of your dreams ._. . A friend of mine says she rarely dreams (or at least, has memory of it) most of the times. This wasn't supposed to be a "post your dream" thread, sorry if I misled you by posting mine icon_neutral.gif
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:19 AM GMT
    theantijock said
    Splendidus_1 saidso I forced myself to wake.


    Does that you say you forced yourself awake mean that were aware you were dreaming a dream while you were dreaming that dream?


    Haha, I guess it means something like that, yeah. But I remember only doing it when I was having a nightmare. When I reach a peak of despair, whether I'm being chased, or I know something bad is about to happen, I become aware I'm dreaming (due to the unreality of the events) in the dream. Then I guess I signal my brain, or something, to become fully awake, not sure how the process goes .. I just close my eyes and push while in the dream lol.
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:44 AM GMT
    Yes, by your description of the action in your dreaming it sounds like you are trying to awaken to yourself.

    Next time, why not just keep the dream going instead of escaping it and see what happens.
  • Splendidus_1

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    Jun 23, 2012 2:48 AM GMT
    theantijock saidYes, by your description of the action in your dreaming it sounds like you are trying to awaken to yourself.

    Next time, why not just keep the dream going instead of escaping it and see what happens.


    Because I can't control the outcome of it, and I'm panicking from all the terror of the scene. In nightmares, at least. I've had some occasions where I was aware that I was dreaming at a "normal dream", and could control what happened (I fly mostly, haha). Oh, I had a Harry potter dream once, spent the dream casting spells -- but acording to Ariodante, this is boring, so I'll leave it at that icon_neutral.gif .
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    Jun 23, 2012 2:53 AM GMT
    You need to calm yourself down. Remember that it is just a dream. Don't worry so much about the dream elements for now. Pay more attention to your dream character's actions. If you are being chased, stop running, turn, and see what you were running from. If you are being attacked by zombies and they start to overwelm you, put your weapon down and try talking to them. Maybe they don't like having nails shot at their heads.
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    Jun 23, 2012 3:12 AM GMT
    I vividly remember a dream I had at four when I lived in a subdivision of fifties tract homes. In the dream I'd snuck into the next door neighbor's carport and looked in their window into their living room and saw a scary portrait of an old man whose eyes stared at me. I ran home through what became an impossible distance on a meadow with purple grass and a green sky, carried on the shoulders of a white-sheeted ghost. The front door of my house was locked but the garage door was open so I ran into the kitchen entrance where skeletons danced, their jaws clicking in time to the clicks their bony heels made on the terrazzo floor. I ran up what should've been four steps but instead wound up an improbable gothic tower yelling "Mommy, mommy!" and found my mother at her makeup table, applying her ruby red lipstick, where she let me climb into her lap while she comforted me. I know - serious mommy issues.
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    Jun 23, 2012 3:52 PM GMT
    theantijock saidYou need to calm yourself down. Remember that it is just a dream. Don't worry so much about the dream elements for now. Pay more attention to your dream character's actions. If you are being chased, stop running, turn, and see what you were running from. If you are being attacked by zombies and they start to overwelm you, put your weapon down and try talking to them. Maybe they don't like having nails shot at their heads.


    That sounds really interesting, but not sure if I have that much control! Let's hope next time it happens, I'll remind your advise and try it. I only shot the ones who were trying to get me though ._. . They started running to me as soon as they saw me -- like it would be expected of a zombie. Have you ever done it?
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    Jun 23, 2012 3:56 PM GMT
    eagermuscle saidI vividly remember a dream I had at four when I lived in a subdivision of fifties tract homes. In the dream I'd snuck into the next door neighbor's carport and looked in their window into their living room and saw a scary portrait of an old man whose eyes stared at me. I ran home through what became an impossible distance on a meadow with purple grass and a green sky, carried on the shoulders of a white-sheeted ghost. The front door of my house was locked but the garage door was open so I ran into the kitchen entrance where skeletons danced, their jaws clicking in time to the clicks their bony heels made on the terrazzo floor. I ran up what should've been four steps but instead wound up an improbable gothic tower yelling "Mommy, mommy!" and found my mother at her makeup table, applying her ruby red lipstick, where she let me climb into her lap while she comforted me. I know - serious mommy issues.


    That sounds terrifying icon_eek.gif . Glad it was really your mom, I can see that becoming even worse! Dreams can really dig some weird shit from your subconscious!
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    Jun 23, 2012 7:06 PM GMT
    Splendidus_1 saidThat sounds really interesting, but not sure if I have that much control! Let's hope next time it happens, I'll remind your advise and try it. I only shot the ones who were trying to get me though ._. . They started running to me as soon as they saw me -- like it would be expected of a zombie. Have you ever done it?


    Me? I dabble.

    Don't worry about control from within the dream at this point. That can be practiced or come naturally enough once you've awakened yourself within your dream. For now, you can access your dream character from your body-awake state by instructing your mind before you sleep on how you want your dream character to behave in your dreams. Think of it as aligning your conscious and subconscious selves so that they act in agreement, so that you are satisfied with the actions of your dream character just as you put forth effort into watching and being responsible for your own behavior when you are awake.

    So if you get chased and wake yourself up from that, then before sleep, tell yourself that if you have such a dream, that instead of waking yourself up that you will turn and see what is chasing. Because obviously if you are able to wake your body from within your dream, you've got some measure of consciousness connected in that moment. You can ride that wave of consciousness to the state where your body is awake, which is what you have been doing, or you can ride that wave while continuing within your dream, exploring and expanding your consciousness, which is your heritage.

    If you do wake yourself up, no worries, just tell yourself that the next time you will stop, turn and face what chases you instead of waking up and then put yourself back to sleep again.

    Another way to break yourself free of your subconscious mind during your dreaming is instruct yourself to have a flying dream but instead of just mindlesslly enjoying the flight (not to ruin your fun, but...), purposely crash your flying dream body into a wall, or dive head first into the ground. In otherwords, out-think your subconscious mind so that you will shake yourself free from it.

    Warning: these types of activities can change the nature of not just your dreaming but also of how you perceive & experience reality. If you are not emotionally stable or tend towards escapism, they can damage you without proper assistance. Do not hesitate to seek professional counsel should you experience difficulties in daily living.
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    Jun 23, 2012 7:16 PM GMT
    Ever have a dream where one or two of your teeth are loose or fall out? What's up with that?icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 23, 2012 8:25 PM GMT
    Buddyboy938 saidEver have a dream where one or two of your teeth are loose or fall out? What's up with that?icon_rolleyes.gif


    I believe those are dreams expressing anxiety or worry. I used to have them back in early college days, often, I noticed, right around exam time.
  • Splendidus_1

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    Jun 23, 2012 8:25 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    Splendidus_1 saidThat sounds really interesting, but not sure if I have that much control! Let's hope next time it happens, I'll remind your advise and try it. I only shot the ones who were trying to get me though ._. . They started running to me as soon as they saw me -- like it would be expected of a zombie. Have you ever done it?


    Me? I dabble.

    Don't worry about control from within the dream at this point. That can be practiced or come naturally enough once you've awakened yourself within your dream. For now, you can access your dream character from your body-awake state by instructing your mind before you sleep on how you want your dream character to behave in your dreams. Think of it as aligning your conscious and subconscious selves so that they act in agreement, so that you are satisfied with the actions of your dream character just as you put forth effort into watching and being responsible for your own behavior when you are awake.

    So if you get chased and wake yourself up from that, then before sleep, tell yourself that if you have such a dream, that instead of waking yourself up that you will turn and see what is chasing. Because obviously if you are able to wake your body from within your dream, you've got some measure of consciousness connected in that moment. You can ride that wave of consciousness to the state where your body is awake, which is what you have been doing, or you can ride that wave while continuing within your dream, exploring and expanding your consciousness, which is your heritage.

    If you do wake yourself up, no worries, just tell yourself that the next time you will stop, turn and face what chases you instead of waking up and then put yourself back to sleep again.

    Another way to break yourself free of your subconscious mind during your dreaming is instruct yourself to have a flying dream but instead of just mindlesslly enjoying the flight (not to ruin your fun, but...), purposely crash your flying dream body into a wall, or dive head first into the ground. In otherwords, out-think your subconscious mind so that you will shake yourself free from it.

    Warning: these types of activities can change the nature of not just your dreaming but also of how you perceive & experience reality. If you are not emotionally stable or tend towards escapism, they can damage you without proper assistance. Do not hesitate to seek professional counsel should you experience difficulties in daily living.


    I've read some articles about "Lucid dreaming", although this seems a bit different. I had no idea I could do such thing as aligning with my subconscious. I tried thinking, before falling asleep, which dream I wanted to have, but nothing came from that. I'll try that approach, and think what I'll do if "x" or "y" happens.

    I've had some occasions where I woke from a nightmare, and once I fell asleep, I'd still be in the same scenario; hope I remember to tell myself to face what's chasing me!

    Funny you mention it, because I do have a tendency for escapism, but I think it's on normal levels.
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    Jun 23, 2012 8:27 PM GMT
    Buddyboy938 saidEver have a dream where one or two of your teeth are loose or fall out? What's up with that?icon_rolleyes.gif


    Today I had one, actually, haha. One of my teeth was loose, I was looking in the mirror and I started swinging it -- but since I'm wearing braces, I can see why my subconscious would project such dream.

    There are sites that try to explain the meaning of your dreams, you should look it up!
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    Jun 23, 2012 8:44 PM GMT
    The lucid part of your nightmare is, as I mentioned, where your consciousness begins to awaken enough to give you the control to take yourself out of your dream, to end the nighmare by waking up your body. At that moment, you know you are dreaming because you decide to wake yourself up and you create the condition whereby that comes to pass. You end your dream and you wake up your body. That's all you doing that.

    So while the entire nightmare itself might not be a lucid dream, as vivid as it might have been, that one aspect, even if it lasted only a split second, would, by strict definition, be a lucid dream. Even if it wouldn't nomally be considered a lucid dream by either duration or intention, it would be lucid by mechanics and function.

    Even some lucid dreams, particularly by beginners, might only last a few seconds, as often people get understandably quite excited to find themselves suddenly conscious in their dreams and so they throw themselves off and wind up waking themselves up. Some people might only have one or so of these in a lifetime and never figure out how to get back into it. Others freak out and so they keep themselves from it, even if unconsciously so. From your description, you seem to be using it to escape facing and resolving your nightmares.