Nokia Phone Sales Face More Hurdles. Phones sold now not upgradable to latest software due in fall.

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    Jun 23, 2012 1:21 AM GMT
    My opinion - I wouldn't just wait for a newer Nokia phone to come out, I'd forget about them. Nokia and Microsoft are supposed to be such great partners. Buying a phone in the spring and not being to upgrade to the latest software coming out 6 months later says a lot about both Nokia and Microsoft.

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    Microsoft Corp. just made it a little harder for partner Nokia Corp. NOK 0.00% to sell its new line of Lumia smartphones by announcing a software update that won't be available to current users.

    The Finnish handset maker tied itself closely to Microsoft last year by agreeing to adopt the software giant's Windows Phone operating system for its smartphones. Microsoft announced this week it will launch the next version, Windows Phone 8, in the fall, but the software won't be able to run on current Lumia phones.

    That could make it tricky for Nokia to sell Lumia handsets if consumers bypass the current Lumia lineup in favor of waiting for upgraded software.

    "Operators and users will hold on until the new devices are in the market this coming autumn," Malik Saadi, an analyst with Informa INF.LN -1.10% Telecoms & Media in London, said in a blog post. "This will have a serious impact on Nokia's financial performance this quarter."

    Nokia launched the Lumia phones late last year in Europe and early this year in the U.S. The company said it shipped more than 2 million Lumias world-wide in the first quarter, compared with Apple's 35 million iPhones.

    The development comes as Nokia is scrambling to boost sales of its smartphone lineup after a period of severe market share decline in many countries where it was once the dominant player.

    Microsoft did say it will give current Windows phones a more modest software update—Windows Phone 7.8—which includes an improved camera function and features similar to what will come in the Windows 8 package.

    "The reason a full update to the Windows Phone 8 platform isn't possible [for current Lumia devices] is primarily due to the jump in hardware capability for future devices, which can't be made available on existing hardware," said Nokia spokesperson Doug Dawson.

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    Jun 24, 2012 1:50 PM GMT
    I understand your frustration.

    What does Win8 do that their current OS lack?

    Nokia is making the effort to release Win7.8 to get you most of the features.

    But, Win8 sounds like a huge battery hog. Add LTE and...
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    Jun 24, 2012 2:14 PM GMT
    RobertF64 saidI understand your frustration.

    What does Win8 do that their current OS lack?

    Nokia is making the effort to release Win7.8 to get you most of the features.

    But, Win8 sounds like a huge battery hog. Add LTE and...

    Not frustrated at all. I don't own that phone. Just an opinion. I'm sure there are reasons as you point out, but both companies were aware or should have been aware and still went ahead with the current design. They were anxious to get a product out, so they made decisions resulting in this.
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    Jun 25, 2012 1:48 AM GMT
    I hear what you're saying. But, I actually think this will be a bigger factor for tablet devices. For handsets, not so much.

    Manufacturers were stuck with desktop inventory when Microsoft released Windows Vista and again with Windows 7. Then, there's the long list of Android devices that won't see and IceCreamSandwich upgrade.

    I don't believe this means Samsung deceived consumers by selling them something that can't be upgraded.

    When my iPhone4/Vz starts to show its age, I have to decide if a multicore processor and LTE will be worth giving up the old iPod dock 30 pin connector that I currently plug into...everything. The drawback to a single core, I guess, is now the phonne pauses music while it fiddles with something. icon_neutral.gif


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    Jun 25, 2012 2:22 AM GMT
    No manufacturer is immune, but I think 6 months is a pretty short interval, especially given the close relationship between Nokia and Microsoft.
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    Jun 25, 2012 5:01 AM GMT
    I agree that it does suck, but makes sense from a technical stand point. Also keep in mind that all current Windows Phone 7 users will get the Windows Phone 7.8 update ( get it??? 7to 8 ). Now allegedly, v7.8 will include everything that v8.0 has, EXCEPT for any feature that relies on higher spec hardware (such as the NFC features, multi-core processing, true multi-tasking, native code support, etc). Now as far as I know, 7.8 includes the new UI and a few more feature update to the camera and the general usability. Honestly, v7.8 will most likely be a formidable update, but the general consumer gets so bent out of shape about not having the lastest and greatest.....and some don't even realize that they lack the necessary hardware to run the lastest and greatest.

    But I think the bigger issue here early adopters of Windows Phone 7 and the Lumia 800/900 might get the shaft as developers start to target their apps for Windows Phone 8. With native code support, and with the new Windows 8 shared core, the majority of the "cool apps" will be targeted for Windows Phone 8 and will not be able to run on Windows Phone 7 devices. Those who recently signed a 2 year contract might feel a little cheated and betrayed. Depending how fast the ecosystem grows, it may be a long 2 years before the next upgrade.

    But yeah, I agree that 6 months is way too short before a device basically becomes dead in the water.
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    Jun 25, 2012 5:06 AM GMT
    I miss Nokia in the old days icon_cry.gif

    I loved their phones from the early 2000s. The size was perfect, so practical and I was obsessed with the snake game on it!
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    Jun 25, 2012 5:07 AM GMT
    nokia-phone.jpg

    This will always remain a classic and favorite to me