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    Jun 23, 2012 4:06 PM GMT
    Per our esteemed federal gov't.
    http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Closing+Kits+coast+guard+base+makes+situation+worse/6793380/story.html

    The Kitsilano Coastguard operated at a cost of 900K a year.

    However they have the money for this:

    http://www.torontosun.com/2011/10/11/feds-to-spend-28m-commemorating-war-of-1812 at a cost of 28 million over 4 years.

    Much more important than human life, wouldn't you say? icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 23, 2012 7:18 PM GMT
    No party ever lost votes by pandering to nationalist sentiment.
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    Jun 23, 2012 9:17 PM GMT
    Oh my gosh! A canadian posting about something canadian and not american politics! I'm shocked. icon_eek.gif So, let me derail this... icon_lol.gif


    An ancestor of mine, who happened to have the same name as I do, died at the Battle of Frenchman's Creek defending Canada* against the invasion by the US on November 28, 1812. They damn well oughta remember, commemorate, and erect a statue for that war!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Frenchman's_Creek

    "The Battle of Frenchman’s Creek took place during the War of 1812 between Great Britain and the United States in the early hours of November 28, 1812, in the Crown Colony of Upper Canada, near the Niagara River. The operation was conceived as a raid to prepare the ground for a larger American invasion. The Americans succeeded in crossing the Niagara and landing at both of their points of attack. They achieved one of their two objectives before withdrawing but the invasion was subsequently called off, rendering useless what had been accomplished. The engagement was named, “the Battle of Frenchman’s Creek”[9] by the Canadians, after the location of some of the severest fighting. To contemporary Americans, it was known as, “the Affair opposite Black Rock”.[6]

    The battle site was designated a National Historic Site of Canada in 1921."


    *At the time of the American Revolutionary War, my great, great, great, great grandfather's family were loyalists, and his wife's family were American patriots. Must have made for interesting Thanksgiving Day dinners! icon_wink.gif My g-g-g-g-grandfather's family had to skedaddle to Canada when they lost. And that's how that ancestor of mine came to be fighting for Canada. If I lived in Canada, I could put UE after my name. icon_lol.gif I didnt know Canadians did that kind of stuff.icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Jun 23, 2012 9:44 PM GMT
    There is still the site of an American prisoner of war camp from the 1812 war, in my nearest city, Plymouth.
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    Jun 24, 2012 1:04 AM GMT

    Thanks Caslon, and to make an observation, this wonderful example of fiscal responsibility and putting the safety of lives ahead of frivolous spending brought to you by our Conservatve super majority government.

    Riddler should love this.

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    Oh wait, Riddler would rather start topics about the US.,,,lots of them.
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    Jun 24, 2012 1:17 AM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidNo party ever lost votes by pandering to nationalist sentiment.


    Just watch, Canadians are patriotic, but not at the expense of rubbing their good neighbours' noses in long ago slights. Nor are they too keen about gov't cuts to things like the national archives, while spending on junk like this.

    The feds were NOT interested in celebrating our Charter of Rights And Freedoms anniversary. You know, that non discrimination equality thing. icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 24, 2012 2:10 AM GMT
    meninlove said Oh wait, Riddler would rather start topics about the US.,,,lots of them.

    Which I totally do not understand. Why do non-Americans make so many threads about America...american politics, american obesity, american whatever...and so little about their own countries.

    For me, an american, it can be 1) insulting, 2) boring/tedious, and 3) I would rather learn something about other countries/people, too. I would like to hear natives discussing their own situations, ...and I dont mean americans discussing their situations.

    So this thread was interesting to hear a canadian discussing canadian stuff....which i promptly derailed as a foreigner...yeah, my turn to derail another countries thread.....that is if you can call it derailed since I notice a dearth of canadians discussing it
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    Jun 24, 2012 2:16 AM GMT


    Beats me, Caslon. We comment in US topics only because we have a vested interest in the well-being of our friends and considerable number of relatives there.
    The topic we started about the US was Obama's win in 2008. That was long ago, and was an appreciation topic for the US.
    We also started a topic once commemorating your veterans, who saved the world's bacon so to speak at perilous times in history.




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    Jun 24, 2012 2:24 AM GMT
    meninlove said

    Beats me, Caslon. We comment in US topics only because we have a vested interest in the well-being of our friends and considerable number of relatives there.
    The topic we started about the US was Obama's win in 2008. That was long ago, and was an appreciation topic for the US.
    We also started a topic once commemorating your veterans, who saved the world's bacon so to speak at perilous times in history.

    I hope we are going to try to balance those laudable posts with the number of other american posts. I mean, talk about a thimble on a watermelon. I would love to see posts of canadians, by canadians, and for canadians not perish from this earth.

    Which reminds me....in an episode of Robson Arms, the two gay guys needed a historical personage to reference in their conversation....and who did they mention....Abraham Lincoln....I thought at the time, "really? you dont have a canadian historical character to use?" It just seemed odd.
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    Jun 24, 2012 2:26 AM GMT
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    Caslon19000 said
    meninlove said Oh wait, Riddler would rather start topics about the US.,,,lots of them.

    Which I totally do not understand. Why do non-Americans make so many threads about America...american politics, american obesity, american whatever...and so little about their own countries.

    For me, an american, it can be 1) insulting, 2) boring/tedious, and 3) I would rather learn something about other countries/people, too. I would like to hear natives discussing their own situations, ...and I dont mean americans discussing their situations.

    Puhleez.

    Your many, many posts of misinformation about the Canadian seal hunt haven't been forgotten by everyone. You can tar yourself with that brush of yours.

    Pictures dont lie. ....and personally, I would just let bloody dead baby seal carasses lie, if you catch my drift.
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    Jun 26, 2012 7:11 PM GMT

    *cheerful bump* icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 26, 2012 9:08 PM GMT
    The Canadians kicked our ass in the War of 1812 because we tried to annex them in our first act of manifest destiny. The US got exactly what it deserved in 1812. What is to stop the Canadians from taking us over nowicon_question.gif
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    Jun 26, 2012 9:20 PM GMT
    Meh - totally not interesting. The reality is that if you're out there on the high seas in some remote location you acknowledge a certain level of risk. Why should the Canadian government be solely responsible for bailing you out? And let's also face the fact that most people who have boats aren't exactly your average impoverished Canadian anyway.

    Now as for the unrelated spend on some monument(s) or promoting some historical commemoration? I don't really get that either - but I've also never gotten how some Canadians define their identity by being not-American or by our one payer healthcare system. It's stupid.

    I'm not a member of the Conservative party and I tend to agree with this view:
    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/06/15/andrew-coyne-plenty-of-room-for-a-tell-it-like-it-is-third-party-sadly-the-liberals-arent-that/

    I would suggest further that one time spending is better than the additional entitlements that either the Liberals or the NDP would want to commit us to. Look at how they have screwed up Ontario's budget.
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    Jun 26, 2012 9:39 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidMeh - totally not interesting.
    And you think the constant crap YOU post is? Yeah, you're deluded all right..icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 26, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
    CrankySpice saidNow it's time for Canada to invade us and throw out the Republicans. Or jail them.

    CrankySpice? Be careful, you're in danger of having had more RJ screen names than Pattison. icon_razz.gif
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    Jun 26, 2012 10:00 PM GMT
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    riddler78 saidMeh - totally not interesting.
    And you think the constant crap YOU post is? Yeah, you're deluded all right..icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif



    TM, just because most of the stuff Riddler posts is over YOUR head, doesn't mean it's not interesting to the rest of us. Carry on Riddler... icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 26, 2012 10:02 PM GMT
    meninlove saidMuch more important than human life, wouldn't you say? icon_lol.gif

    Didn't your conservative government also recently eliminate all funding for your entire environmental studies program? Republicans in the US Congress must be jealously eyeing that one. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 27, 2012 1:25 AM GMT


    riddler said, " The reality is that if you're out there on the high seas in some remote location you acknowledge a certain level of risk."

    icon_lol.gif Fail. Do some research.
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    Jun 27, 2012 1:28 AM GMT

    Shockeroo, I agree with riddler on this one, although I think the Conservs have some good ideas :

    " I'm not a member of the Conservative party and I tend to agree with this view:
    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/06/15/andrew-coyne-plenty-of-room-for-a-tell-it-like-it-is-third-party-sadly-the-liberals-arent-that/ "

    The Liberal Party is going to have to rebuild themselves with credibility before I'll vote for them.
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    Jun 27, 2012 5:46 AM GMT
    riddler78 saidMeh - totally not interesting. The reality is that if you're out there on the high seas in some remote location you acknowledge a certain level of risk. Why should the Canadian government be solely responsible for bailing you out? And let's also face the fact that most people who have boats aren't exactly your average impoverished Canadian anyway.

    Now as for the unrelated spend on some monument(s) or promoting some historical commemoration? I don't really get that either - but I've also never gotten how some Canadians define their identity by being not-American or by our one payer healthcare system. It's stupid.

    I'm not a member of the Conservative party and I tend to agree with this view:
    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/06/15/andrew-coyne-plenty-of-room-for-a-tell-it-like-it-is-third-party-sadly-the-liberals-arent-that/

    I would suggest further that one time spending is better than the additional entitlements that either the Liberals or the NDP would want to commit us to. Look at how they have screwed up Ontario's budget.


    If i were you I would not respond to threads with specific RJ members in the forum title. Its a violation of the Forum rules.


    It only encourages the few who do to keep on doing it.
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    Jun 27, 2012 8:21 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    Thanks Caslon, and to make an observation, this wonderful example of fiscal responsibility and putting the safety of lives ahead of frivolous spending brought to you by our Conservatve super majority government.

    Riddler should love this.

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    Oh wait, Riddler would rather start topics about the US.,,,lots of them.


    Now share with us the very long list of taxation the Canadians must also pay.
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    Jun 27, 2012 2:23 PM GMT

    musclmed said, " If i were you I would not respond to threads with specific RJ members in the forum title. Its a violation of the Forum rules.


    It only encourages the few who do to keep on doing it."

    Oh for heaven's sake. His name was added yesterday to get his attention. He's Canadian like ourselves.
    Now he's seen it, so to make you happy, I will remove his name now.

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