This obsession with straight men

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    Aug 10, 2007 7:19 AM GMT
    In my opinion straight men are BORING!

    All they talk about is sport - football, cricket, rugby, football, football.

    All they watch is sport and women with big breasts.

    And all the talk about is football scores, who they would've put on the team, how the manager got it wrong, why so and so shouldn't have passed the ball to so and so. God, gag me with a spoon.

    Why do gay men obsess about them. I can't understand it. The last time I fancied a straight man was at college - a time when I didn't know any other gay men.

    I don't know any interesting straight men. I have three brothers and they're all boring, apart from the one who thinks he might be gay.
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    Aug 10, 2007 7:33 AM GMT
    We want what we can't have.
  • GQjock

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    Aug 10, 2007 10:34 AM GMT
    I agree with you completely RH
    and yeah it's the we want what we can't have thing but I think it's also the same as the married man thing for women...if a str8 man is going to submit to sex
    sex is all it's gonna be - there's going to be no chance of emotional attachment
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    Aug 10, 2007 2:51 PM GMT
    I agree with you redheadguy, straight men are boring. Most of the straight men I know are boring. They have 3 conversation subjects : baseball in summer, hockey in winter and women.

    BORING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And besides, they are not within our reach...THEY ARE STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No gay should waste his time with straight guys.
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    Aug 10, 2007 2:56 PM GMT
    Aww, come on guys!

    This thread has to be a joke, right? Please tell me this is a joke, and that you guys aren't actually this hypocritical.
  • gwuinsf

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    Aug 10, 2007 3:07 PM GMT
    I have a friend that is very into straight guys and gets off on convincing straight guys to let him blow them, send them naked pictures, etc. For him it's very much a power and control thing. I don't get it.

    For me, the "want what I can't have" is BS. I'm not interested in anyone that isn't interested in me back. There's no excitement in that.
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    Aug 10, 2007 3:08 PM GMT
    I would be just as bored by a gay sports fanatic as a straight sports fanatic. What I totally don't understand is the sexual obsession by some gay men for straight men. Maybe I'm just weird, but if the sexual attraction isn't mutual, I have no interest at all in being sexually active with that person. I can fully appreciate the sexiness of sexy straight guy's body, but that's the extent of my interest.
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    Aug 10, 2007 3:11 PM GMT
    I'm not objecting to people questioning the sexual obsession with straight men... But the way the remarks on this thread have been generalized...

    "I don't know any interesting straight men."

    How would you feel if a straight guy came out with a comment like "All gay men talk about is clothes and music and something called 'White Party'... I don't know any interesting gay men."

    Heterophobic. Damned heterophobic.
  • zakariahzol

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    Aug 10, 2007 3:17 PM GMT
    I want nothing to do with straight men outside of work. I find them like people of another planet. They dont understand me, there keep telling me to get married (to a women) . They keep assuming I am unhappy, lonely and miserable because I am single. I just dont know how to carry out converstion with them.
  • jc_online

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    Aug 10, 2007 3:38 PM GMT
    I have just as many straight friends as gay friends. I know alot more gay men, but most I wouldn't call friends.

    Some straight guys are cool, but not all; just like some gay guys are cool, but not all.

    As far as sexual interest: the futile and disrespectful pursuit of straight men by gay men is what's boring.

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    Aug 10, 2007 3:56 PM GMT
    Let's re-hash things from a straight guy's perspective.

    "All gay men talk about is music,fashion and think about men with bulging chests"

    Oh please.As human beings we are naturally drawn to some activities,and like it or not,sex be it with people of the opposite or same gender.

    Why are some gay men attracted to straight men?As a gay buddy of mine puts it,straight men are more "manly"(ask women and they may beg to differ).Personally I think,it's because the grass is greener on the other side,and also because there are generally more straight men than gay men in any given community(except the gay community of course).

    I used to be quite pissed when gay men hit on me in the gym,but now I take it as a compliment.Why stop at attracting one gender,when you can attract both? ;p

    But not many straight guys see things the same way.Just like you can't change a gay guy's sexual preference,straight men are the same.

    My 2 coppers,
  • maximumrisk

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    Aug 10, 2007 3:56 PM GMT
    I dont hang out with other gays so much. Possibly because they are hard to find here. But in Austria it was the same.

    To the comment "I dont know any intresting str8 guys"

    wtf? I mean, I have many str8 friends and we understand us very good. We dont talk about Sports and sometimes about women. But where is the problem to give the opinion there if a women is sexy or not. Is it so hard to talk about the look of a girl, even if your not intrested in them?
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    Aug 10, 2007 4:06 PM GMT
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    Aug 10, 2007 4:13 PM GMT
    Redheadguy ......and what do the majority of gay men do?

    Not all straight men are into sports and are perverts toward women. I have some great straight married "couple" friends and they are quite normal.

    Just like not all gay men are feminine and talk about who's cock they sucked yesturday.

    Any obsession is that we want what we can not have. Or should I say crave.

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    Aug 10, 2007 4:31 PM GMT
    Far too generalized.
    I for one am thankful for the metrosexual straightman, the gay jock, that dogs are man's best friend, that women are Gay Man's truest friend, for the blue-collar blokes that bring their lunches to work in the latest colours of Tupperware and spend their 30-minutes talking food,
    for the kung-fu fighting dancing queen... the tribal spaceman... and all that's in between, and for the straight brother that only talks business and hockey but always takes the time to fix the wiring, cabling and plumbing when I f**k it up for the umpteenth time.

    "If we are to achieve a richer culture, rich in contrasting values, we must recognize the whole gamut of human potentialities, and so weave a less arbitrary social fabric, one in which each diverse human gift will find a fitting place." - Margaret Mead

    "Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted." - M. L. King Jr.

    redhead: 5 points penalty.
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    Aug 10, 2007 4:34 PM GMT
    "whatever" was directed to the topic in general, specifically to the initial response
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    Aug 10, 2007 5:08 PM GMT
    I dont obsesse about straight guys. Guy is just my type. Im not going to lie. I love men and everything about them. Sure some guys take a few things too far and that is annoying, ex: Big Breasted Woman, trying to get in to everyones pants (you know the ones im talking about from the clubs and they are on both teams). If I see a guy I might check him out of he catches my eye. He doesnt have to be gay, straght, bi whatever its just that hes a guy.
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    Aug 10, 2007 5:09 PM GMT
    Having a bad there Red?

    Seriously mate, you live in one the world's Top 5 Hippest (most influential) cities, and you only know boring straight men? only sport-obsessed men?

    Never in any other city, not even Paris, have I witnessed so many smart men-about-town (~9/10ths of which are het) spend their lunch-hours talking recipes and the latest TimeOut food Reviews,
    concerts, Beckham's haircut instead of his performance, and the latest spring shades of fuschia and lavender they picked up at Pink's or Ted Baker.

    'When a man is tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford.' - Samuel Pepys

    Maybe you could spend the weekend as a tourist to refresh that point of view... wander and change the scenery (or the cast of players). =)
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    Aug 10, 2007 5:17 PM GMT

    Speaking as a gay male sports fanatic who must have stepped out of line when they were handing out the gay fashion/decorator gene:

    I think its the unobtainable thing; that and the fact that there are just so damned many of them.

    Personally admitting I was gay to myself took so long and was so difficult because in part I didn't identify with 'typical gay culture' (if there even is such a thing).

    I am a serious sports nut, and my favorite activities almost all involve sports or outdoor activities like camping, canoeing, fishing, or hunting.

    Besides I think sexuality is much more of the scale variety than most peoplr give credit to: remember the old joke about "The difference between straight guys and gay guys?" (About a 6 - Pack)

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    Aug 10, 2007 5:21 PM GMT
    Obsession: nah

    I established some of my oldest friendships with the men I grew up with and continue to be in contact with today(amounts to two men). They are quality friends, intelligent, interesting, successful and remain close to me. str8 acquaintances and/or colleagues, on the other hand, are just that. if there's a common denominator or a connect, like playing sports with them or working with them or going out for a beer or over for supper I enjoy that contact as well. I can deal with the big tits and a tight box talk.
    There is something to be said about building a relationship with other men-you never know who you're gonna meet.
    BTW if you can talk and laugh like homer or crusty the clown - thats a plus in my books-homo or hetero.

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    Aug 10, 2007 7:22 PM GMT
    Me too like ITJock I'm more of a gay sport fanatic. I find it more rewarding to make friends with straight men. There are no expectations to read their minds, to understand subtle hints, to stroke their ego, etc. My thoughts and opinions are treated objectively and true exchanges of ideas can happen. Me and my friends truly learn from each other and help each other grow. While I don't care about American football or baseball at all I love the World cup soccer, ice hockey, certainly outdoor sports and martial arts. I value honest competitiveness and ambition in people, without which I wouldn't find them interesting.

    With straight younger women I don't do well because most are looking for validation and personal attention from masculine men. Since I don't have the pampered gene I don't get why they squirm over every little thing. The drama and sometimes the spoiled/dependent habits are annoying and boring. A substantial proportion of gay men can be dramatic and needy like young women. I have some gay friends but found that a lot of gay men will only focus on their sexual desires and subtle innuendos in conversations, which turn me off. Then there is this effeminate married straight guy at work that always talks about uncouth sexual subjects to the younger women and jealously try to keep them from interacting with any other male. That's the worst conversation partner one can have, in my opinion. I'm not against discussing sex but there is only so much to talk about. When someone talks about sex (often drugs are in as well) in a demeaning manner to satisfy their need for power trips that's where I draw the line.
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    Aug 10, 2007 7:47 PM GMT

    Ok. I'm about to get pounded on. ;-)

    Some gay men have a thing for straight men....because straight men do TALK. At least until they find our you are gay. ;-)

    Many guys on here don't want to give you the courtesy of even replying to e-mail or IM and say "no, I don't want to talk to you."

    Like little boys, if they can't talk to that "ultimate" hot jock, they are just going to pout and say nothing.

    I have found that my straight male friends have a great deal more in coomon with me than do many gay men. Rarely does that friendship ever cross over into a sexual relationship, but hey, they do make good friends.

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    Aug 10, 2007 7:52 PM GMT
    balderdash, redheadguy. personally, i don't know of one guy, let alone straight guy, who has ever mentioned cricket. (except maybe how loud they can get at night)
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    Aug 10, 2007 8:05 PM GMT
    I totally agree that to generalize and say ALL straight men are BORING and have nothing to talk about except sports and women is going a bit too far. I don't have any straight male friends but I do have straight male clients and I get along with them fine and they DO have other things to talk about. However, I do have to say that I am squarely in the camp of not getting the whole sexual obession with straight guys. I mean if they are straight, they are straight and they aren't ever going to do anything but MAYBE experiment sexually but for me, I'd rather focus on guys that I have a chance at forming a long lasting partner relationship with than a one time roll in the hay and being able to boast, "Oh, I've done him". Big deal!
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    Aug 10, 2007 8:10 PM GMT
    Get a straight guy to open up and talk to you. It's possible, but requires their trust, so don't sexualize things too much.

    They're always boring when they're just posing.